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Anonymous Tue 27 Nov 2018 08:54:00 No.37104824 View View Reply Original Report

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>smogonbird
>fire/flying
>great for pvp

>charizard
>fire/flying
>shit at pvp

Literally why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Nov 2018 09:05:26 No.37104854 Report

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priority

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Nov 2018 09:10:31 No.37104862 Report

Quoted By: >>37104898 >>37105579

>priority
>good speed
>high power base moves
>physically oriented

Physical fire types are better than special fire types, because it makes better use of their burn immunity. Stupid high power moves mean it hits harder than Charizard, and 126 speed is hard to beat without scarf even if it doesn't have priority.

Talonflame's nerf was excessive, as Lele was already a huge counter to the original Gale Wings

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Nov 2018 09:23:29 No.37104898 Report

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>>37104862
burn should lower special att too

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Nov 2018 13:32:52 No.37105579 Report

Quoted By: >>37105628 >>37105785

>>37104862
>Stupid high power moves mean it hits harder than Charizard
252+ SpA Choice Specs Charizard Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mew: 262-309 (76.8 - 90.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Talonflame Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 235-277 (68.9 - 81.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Nov 2018 13:43:25 No.37105626 Report

Quoted By: >>37105797

Not just priority, but priority recovery and Wisp is retarded. The fact that a defensive set was actually really good on it despite its bad defenses speaks volumes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Nov 2018 13:44:25 No.37105628 Report

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>>37105579
>Fire Blast missed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Nov 2018 13:59:52 No.37105684 Report

Quoted By: >>37106205

Isn't Talonflame kinda meh in gen 7?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Nov 2018 14:13:18 No.37105751 Report

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>caring about smogon

autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Nov 2018 14:23:32 No.37105785 Report

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>>37105579
Are you stupid?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Nov 2018 14:25:49 No.37105797 Report

Quoted By: >>37106236

>>37105626
wow isn't a flying type move. Also
>earthquake

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Nov 2018 16:04:23 No.37106205 Report

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>>37105684
Gale wings got heavily nerfed. It only gives priority if you have 100% hp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Nov 2018 16:09:43 No.37106231 Report

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Moltres and Talonflame both show that Fire/Flying is only a bad type due to smogon stones.The fact that Moltres is a staple in UU right now despite relying on Fire Miss and Hurrimiss and being quad weak to SR makes me really want a Magic Guard Fire/Flying mon next.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Nov 2018 16:10:21 No.37106236 Report

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>>37105797
I don't mean WoW has priority, but the thing can burn physical attackers to cripple them and Roost off the damage really easily because Roost always go first. The fucker had sets that let it beat shit that it'd normally lose to like Tyranitar or Suicune.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Nov 2018 16:22:51 No.37106308 Report

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I miss the early days of XY when everyone was focused on finding the best and most unexpected ways to shut down Smogonbird. The start of a gen is always the most fun competitive gets.

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