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Anonymous Tue 27 Nov 2018 21:58:30 No.37108415 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>37108436 >>37108479 >>37109635 >>37109675 >>37109849 >>37110067 >>37111311 >>37113856

>we'll never get HAs for Archeops, Slaking and Regigigas
>tfw they probably wouldn't be broken even if they had non-trash abilities after generations of powercreep
>they'll forever be mememons
It's not fair bros.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Nov 2018 22:00:26 No.37108425 Report

Quoted By: >>37108504 >>37108864

LETS GO GARBODOR AND VANILLUXE NEVER EVER
STAY KEKED UNOVABORTIONS
GENWUNCHADS KEEP WINNING

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Nov 2018 22:01:37 No.37108436 Report

Quoted By: >>37108467 >>37110135 >>37112825

>>37108415
Do you not understand that the only reason they were given those stats in the first place was because the Ability was a condition? Golisopod is in its own category though, Emergency Exit was meant to force it to play a certain way but being a hindrance is a consequence of it rather than a direct intention.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Nov 2018 22:06:58 No.37108467 Report

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>>37108436
I understand it, but I still think it's dumb as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Nov 2018 22:09:18 No.37108479 Report

Quoted By: >>37108513 >>37108540

>>37108415
Giving Archeops Rock Head as an ability in tandem with Head Smash and Choice Scarf might just boost him to Ubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Nov 2018 22:14:38 No.37108504 Report

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>>37108425
W-what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Nov 2018 22:17:41 No.37108513 Report

Quoted By: >>37108540

>>37108479
I’d give it Sheer Force. It can learn Heat Wave, Earth Power, Focus Miss, etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Nov 2018 22:22:37 No.37108540 Report

Quoted By: >>37109563

>>37108479
>>37108513
I'd give it Early Bird tbqh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Nov 2018 23:09:17 No.37108864 Report

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>>37108425
Archeops and co. would appreciate a game without abilities like Let’s Go

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Anonymous Tue 27 Nov 2018 23:34:52 No.37109072 Report

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I could have sworn he learns Ice Beam. But apparently I just misremembered.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 00:39:44 No.37109491 Report

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Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 00:47:37 No.37109563 Report

Quoted By: >>37109600 >>37112831 >>37113783

>>37108540
Clever thematically, but pretty pointless.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 00:51:33 No.37109600 Report

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>>37109563
Anything is better than Defeatist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 00:55:16 No.37109635 Report

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>>37108415
Give Regigigas Illuminate. It’ll go up in usage even with a useless ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 00:59:06 No.37109675 Report

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>>37108415
Slow Start can keep the whole halving Speed and Attack gimmick, but double both Defenses and give status immunity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 01:07:05 No.37109748 Report

Quoted By: >>37109815 >>37109822

Mega Slaking
>Normal / Fighting
>Ability: Comatose
>HP: 150
>Attack: 200 (+40)
>Defense: 100 (+0)
>Special Attack: 100 (+5)
>Special Defense: 100 (+35)
>Speed: 120 (+20)

Maybe it just stands up and puts one of those samurai headbands around its eyes like a sleep mask.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 01:11:40 No.37109773 Report

Quoted By: >>37110223

slaking and regigiagas are pretty useless competitively. i used slaking in a run once and it was actually fine although awkward.

archeops is a useable pokemon though. there is no reason to cry for archeops. i ran it in gen5 competitive teams and it was good. better than most pokemon. losing the flying gem was the worst thing that happened to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 01:18:30 No.37109815 Report

Quoted By: >>37109889

>>37109748
That stat distribution is just fucking disgusting. Why bother investing EVs in Attack? Just go Naïve and pump shut into Speed and Special Attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 01:19:16 No.37109822 Report

Quoted By: >>37109889

>>37109748
>Comatose
>150/100/100 balk
>Comatose
>reliable recovery
>200/120 Attack and Speed
>Comatose
>powerful priority in Sucker Punch that also gives it perfect coverage when combined with its STABs
>immune to crippling status like Burn and Paralysis
>Comatose
If you were trying to give Mega Fug a friend in AG, you've succeeded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 01:22:27 No.37109849 Report

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>>37108415
Be cool if they all got primals/megas that only had small stat boost but gave them decent abilites, it would be somewhat balanced by forcing a item on them

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 01:25:35 No.37109873 Report

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>Truant doesn't trigger when you KO a pokemon

problem solved

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 01:27:54 No.37109889 Report

Quoted By: >>37111590 >>37113842 >>37113921 >>37113997

>>37109815
>>37109822
Just try and make M-Slaking not busted. Hard mode: no Truant. Because a Mega with Truant just defeats the purpose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 01:47:42 No.37110067 Report

Quoted By: >>37112836

>>37108415
Great job missing the entire point of those Pokemon, dumbass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 01:55:04 No.37110135 Report

Quoted By: >>37110228 >>37110923

>>37108436
what other ability could golisopod get? shell armor?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 02:05:58 No.37110223 Report

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>>37109773
This, Archeops could break damn near any wall with flying gem acrobatics. Now it's just a shitmon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 02:07:28 No.37110228 Report

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>>37110135
Yeah, and I'd definitely take something as simple as that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 02:35:08 No.37110462 Report

Quoted By: >>37110881 >>37112746 >>37114294

>I hate diversity between Pokemon species! Every mon with high stats has to be OU!
Shut up retard
It's a good thing that there are some pokemon with solid stats which are still weak. It gives the player more options in lower tiers. Those differences shouldn't just be the color of the model, they should actually translate into different play experiences. I swear 60% of the suggestions you people make are just attempts to make the game more bland and samey.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 03:35:09 No.37110881 Report

Quoted By: >>37110886

>>37110462
Fuck off faggot.
Regigigas has ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to be as dogshit as it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 03:35:49 No.37110886 Report

Quoted By: >>37111033

>>37110881
Sorry about your disability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 03:40:40 No.37110923 Report

Quoted By: >>37113975

>>37110135
shell armor
tough claws
sheer force
swarm
run away
mold breaker
damp
guts
hustle
rattled
overcoat
oblivious
technician
weak armor
battle armor

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 03:53:51 No.37111033 Report

Quoted By: >>37111046

>>37110886
and I'm sorry for your contrarianism because you're pathetic and friendless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 03:54:40 No.37111046 Report

Quoted By: >>37111256

>>37111033
It's okay, I know you're only angry because I'm right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 04:29:19 No.37111256 Report

Quoted By: >>37111269 >>37111285

>>37111046
I don't have it in me to get angry at friendless contrarians.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 04:32:16 No.37111269 Report

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>>37111256
You've probably got sweaty armpits from all your internet anger. Go take a shower.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 04:35:57 No.37111285 Report

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>>37111256
Kid from the other thread?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 04:42:53 No.37111311 Report

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>>37108415
A reasonable change would be to buff Defeatist like making it half attack stats at 1/3 instead of 1/2

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 04:49:49 No.37111339 Report

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>Defeatist: a person who expects or is excessively ready to accept failure.
>Both Archen and Archeops are mentioned to be really terrible at flying.
>Them being shit at flight is the reason this ability even exist.

Well that and they have such low-esteem that they literally lose the will to fight the moment their feathers get even slightly ruffled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 05:37:22 No.37111590 Report

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>>37109889
Gets Run Away and no stat boosts

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 09:42:28 No.37112746 Report

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>>37110462
Regigigas and Slaking are so shit they don't even have place in ZU, we're talking about a place for shitmons so shit they don't have a place in PU and the duo of crippled high BST shitmons still doesn't have a place there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 10:08:09 No.37112825 Report

Quoted By: >>37112883

>>37108436
>Do you not understand that the only reason they were given those stats in the first place was because the Ability was a condition?

Truant was manageable in Gen 3. In Gens past that it cripples him so hard.

Acheops ability also is similar. Manageable in its debut Gen (it's hurt it moe then Gen 3 truant did slaking) but it fucks it hard past Gen 5. Religious makes no sense. It's a fucking legendary and the counter resets upon switch out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 10:09:21 No.37112831 Report

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>>37109563
Helps it shit on leads that use sleep.
Helps it also shit on mons that use sleep for setu too

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 10:11:14 No.37112836 Report

Quoted By: >>37114416

>>37110067
the point of slaking was to make it weaker.
the problem is that 660BST is not as busted as it used to be in generation 3, thanks to power creep

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 10:26:18 No.37112883 Report

Quoted By: >>37112930

>>37112825
Even in gen 3 truant was hard countered by anything that learned protect or detect, which was basically everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 10:42:38 No.37112930 Report

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>>37112883
It was still UUBL though. So UU clearly couldn't handle it, even with Protect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 14:22:09 No.37113783 Report

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>>37109563
Not even clever thematically. Japanese name doesn't have any relation to birds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 14:36:02 No.37113842 Report

Quoted By: >>37113921

>>37109889
Keen Eye and +10 Def, SpD, Speed, and +20 SpA

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 14:38:38 No.37113856 Report

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>>37108415
Nice bird ass desu desu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 14:45:07 No.37113899 Report

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>tfw lost my Archen in my BW nuzlocke yesterday one level before it evolves just before the league
It hurts bros.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 14:47:50 No.37113921 Report

Quoted By: >>37114427

>>37113842
>+10 Speed
He said not to make it busted.

>>37109889
Insomnia, +90 SpAtk, +30 Atk, -20 Speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 14:56:23 No.37113975 Report

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>>37110923
>regenerator

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 14:59:23 No.37113997 Report

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>>37109889
Slow start

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Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 15:52:26 No.37114280 Report

Quoted By: >>37114322

>tfw he'll never get a mega
>tfw no unovamon except fucking Audino is ever getting a mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 15:54:14 No.37114294 Report

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>>37110462
There's a difference between "disgustingly powerful" and "quite literally unusable", anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 15:58:16 No.37114322 Report

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>>37114280
>tfw no unovamon except fucking Audino is ever getting a mega
I just wanted Hydreigon to follow the path of Heisei-era King Ghidorah. Is that too much to ask?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 16:12:28 No.37114416 Report

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>>37112836
670 actually, just ten points under Mewtwo. It's still busted anon.

Slaking deserves a hindering ability but my bro Archeops really doesn't. Its stats are too low for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 16:14:44 No.37114427 Report

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>>37113921
I forgot about some of the slow fucks in the top tiers. Give the extra 10 to its SpD then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 16:33:20 No.37114556 Report

Quoted By: >>37115045 >>37115063

Not broken slaking
>Hidden Ability: sleepy.
>user falls asleep when it enters battle and all moves that cause user to fall asleep succeed
You basicly restrict it to lum berries and make it terrible to switch in, but it's base stats carry it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 17:51:59 No.37115045 Report

Quoted By: >>37115063

>>37114556
That's a cool idea, but still not very good. Maybe make it so it only falls asleep on the first switch each battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 17:57:12 No.37115063 Report

Quoted By: >>37115111

>>37114556
i like this one a lot, could maybe use sleep talk or some shit

>>37115045
fuck off faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Nov 2018 18:05:21 No.37115111 Report

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>>37115063
Why so homophobic?

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