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Anonymous Thu 29 Nov 2018 20:08:00 No.37123933 View View Reply Original Report

this so much this !

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Anonymous Thu 29 Nov 2018 20:10:42 No.37123956 Report

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>>37123933
>a system you can safely ignore unless you intend to play high level competitively makes the game more complicated for casual play
No, it fucking doesn't.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Nov 2018 20:13:30 No.37123975 Report

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>>37123933
Except that less is less and they didn't add anything of true value to fix the hole they left.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Nov 2018 20:13:45 No.37123978 Report

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>>37123933
>doesn't include new evolutions to kanto mons or a small number of other gen mons to draw people to play other games in the series and instead enables genwunner mentality
>forgets that most kanto mons have very simple abilities that are easy to understand and work with
>every complicated hold item is always a prize in the postgame battle facility and is almost never available in the main campaign

Yep, they sure did a good job creating a good transition for GO players!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Nov 2018 20:14:42 No.37123984 Report

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agreed

like, I tried out one of the newer games and there was this wishiwashi pokemon

I had no idea what type it was and it swept my team!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Nov 2018 20:16:17 No.37123999 Report

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>>37123933
And Redditors wonder why they're mocked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Nov 2018 20:17:18 No.37124004 Report

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>>37123933
Nobody HAS to learn all the details behind content - items, abilities, and competitive depth, etc. The games are perfectly playable when you ignore all that shit. How else could literal 5 year olds play these games. All that stuff was in RSE and DPPt and still did well among kids. They're just playing to the absolute lowest common denominator.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Nov 2018 20:17:48 No.37124007 Report

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>>37123933
god people really are hopeless

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Nov 2018 20:17:55 No.37124009 Report

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>>37123933
Are genwunners mentally retarded? I'm seriously beginning to think they are

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Nov 2018 20:19:15 No.37124022 Report

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>>37123933
You could go through every game never bothering with natures, held items, or abilities. I just don't understand how people can be scared of a pokemon game of all things.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Nov 2018 20:23:10 No.37124059 Report

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>>37123933
LGPE haters hate chang-

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Nov 2018 20:24:38 No.37124069 Report

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>>37123933
Imagine being so retarded that 15+ year-old game mechanics are too overwhelming for you

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Nov 2018 20:26:24 No.37124080 Report

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>>37123933
when has society become so vapid and braindead that nothing is allowed to have the slightest bit of depth or difficulty

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Nov 2018 20:26:48 No.37124086 Report

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>>37123933
It's a well known fact that human IQ on average is regressing over time, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Nov 2018 20:28:45 No.37124097 Report

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>>37124086
Wrong, it gets higher every decade

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Nov 2018 20:30:03 No.37124106 Report

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A good game teaches you its mechanics as you play

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Nov 2018 20:42:10 No.37124185 Report

Quoted By: >>37126355 >>37127987

Might as well take type advantages out of the mix too. Fairy v. Steel doesn't make much sense at all, and the Psychic/Dark/Ghost advantages always confused me. Plus, type advantage is much more relevant to casual and story gameplay, which means it's more of a detriment if you don't know it. With 18 types (and possibly growing), type advantages seem bloated and a thing of the past.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Nov 2018 20:45:00 No.37124205 Report

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After playing these games its pretty inoffensive, not sure what the problem is one way or the other
aside from just wanting to find things to be upset about

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Nov 2018 20:45:20 No.37124206 Report

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>>37124086
That's only in America

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Nov 2018 20:46:26 No.37124214 Report

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Highly ironic for normies to complain about how complicated the modern games are while longing for the days where games didn't tell you what the moves did, their accuracy, or how much base power they had. Psywave, a shit move in its own regard, was especially confusing for me as a kid. Turns out the move hurls out a random number loosely tied to your lebel and says "yes, this much damage seems okay", leaving you scratching your head as your mid-40s Alakazam fails to delete some rando trainer's level thirty-something Koffing off the face of the Earth.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Nov 2018 20:46:35 No.37124215 Report

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>>37124206
well you kinda prove his point lol :
It was a hit during black friday

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Nov 2018 20:47:47 No.37124220 Report

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>>37123933
Imagine being such a retard you don't have the brain capacity to get into a children's game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Nov 2018 20:49:19 No.37124228 Report

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>a shitty game is good because it's better than no game at all
bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 02:10:10 No.37126217 Report

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>>37123933
>They didn't make more post game content because people were scared of the all this optional content that they never had to interact with.
>If you wanted to get into it you have to already know the original 151 Pokemon or else it isn't going to be fun!
>All 3 new types are very difficult to grasp
>All these new moves are scary, how am I supposed to know what it does, Splishy Splash or Baddy Bad are simple to learn!
All these points he's making are actually counter-productive to "learning the game" because they took out far too much and when they put everything back it's all gonna be foreign to newcomers.

All these people want is to fit in when Pokemon becomes "cool" again and when they dropped the series after Gen 1, there's A LOT they won't know and they don't want to take the time to learn it to fit in with the "cool crowd". That's why they try to dismiss everything outside of Gen 1 like "they should've stopped after Mew because it's just not Pokemon" because when you bring up something like Infernape or Slaking (for example) they don't know who those are so they feel left out. It's actually a shame because there's a lot of cool designs out there regardless of the generation.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 02:14:01 No.37126250 Report

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>lol they cut content to make the transition easier
next game comes along
>uh what are abilities, LGPE doesnt have them

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 02:31:05 No.37126355 Report

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>>37124185
> Fairy/Steel
That has to do with folklore that metal/iron is toxic to fairies for some reason, that's where that comes from.

>Psychic/Ghost/Dark

Psychic types weaknesses have to do with phobias which are all in the mind, people are scared of Ghosts, Bugs and the Dark.

>Ghost/Dark
Spirits can be corrupted by evil

I don't know how anyone can't use the tiniest bit of thought as to why something is, pokemon types strengths and weaknesses are so fucking easy to figure out.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 02:32:38 No.37126368 Report

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>>37123933
I too want to partake in hobbies but lazily

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 02:33:00 No.37126374 Report

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>>37124097
Actually it gets lower in the US lol, I mean you're/they're the only country to believes in flat Earth, thinks guns are more important than lives and vote for a oompa lumpa to be the president.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 02:34:35 No.37126386 Report

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I don't mind the simplified meta game. No abilities feels like a momentary breath of fresh air with how stale the competitive game tends to be.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 02:35:40 No.37126395 Report

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>>37126374
How many European girls did you rape today, Muhammad?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 02:35:47 No.37126396 Report

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>>37123933
how is it even possible to be this retarded

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Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 02:56:36 No.37126543 Report

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>>37124004
They're intimidating, you retard.
Let them ease themselves in before the series turns into an over complicated mess.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 03:29:07 No.37126730 Report

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>>37123933
Didn't sun and Moon simplify and show you which moves were super effective lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 03:33:40 No.37126748 Report

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>>37126355
But it's not explicitly stated in the game, and they're more necessary to core gameplay than Natures, IVs, or Abilities ever were. Why get rid of those for being "inaccessible" when flying vs. fighting doesn't make upfront sense and can lose you a battle.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 03:39:50 No.37126788 Report

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>>37126730
after you register the pokémon in your pokédex, yeah.
I honestly liked that feature. Most rpg's got something like it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 03:40:34 No.37126790 Report

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>>37126543
If people can work a job, they can figure out Pokemon. It's only intimidating to people who had no interest in the series in the first place, considering Pokemon continues to sell tens of millions of copies even with all of these "complicated" features.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 03:46:47 No.37126827 Report

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>>37123933
You don't need to learn anything if you grind and GO is nothing but grinding.
So who are these people who play GO but give up on real games for the reason of being too confusing?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 03:50:18 No.37126852 Report

Quoted By: >>37126888 >>37126904

Okay, but then how does GF expect people to get into Gen 8 when they're bombarded by all these new features and Pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 03:55:53 No.37126888 Report

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>>37126852
by making lets go togepi and lets go pichu

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 03:58:13 No.37126904 Report

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>>37126852
We all know it's just a lazy and poor excuse for them to shit out a game. If they were serious about it then they'd keep in abilities and items so that the only "overwhelming" aspect would be all the Pokemon, the rest of the moves, and weather/field effects.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 04:00:48 No.37126920 Report

Quoted By: >>37127012

I don't understand the notion that go players don't like more pokemon. Did the fag who write this forgot Go is at Sinnoh now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 04:03:40 No.37126941 Report

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>>37123933
You dont even need to pay any attention to abilities and held items if you just want to play casually.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 04:06:21 No.37126958 Report

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>>37124009

Genwunners dont even exist anymore. Theyve already genuinely moved on with their lives 100%. The person in the OPs image is a shill, no question.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 04:09:52 No.37126973 Report

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>Less content
>More price

If this didn't happen I'd have no problem with them

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Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 04:18:16 No.37127012 Report

Quoted By: >>37127032 >>37127685 >>37127812 >>37127813

>>37126920
I think it had something to do with people like pic related. They were the ones who came to play the game and was fueled entirely by nostalgia and feel that Pokemon should've ended at 151.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 04:21:46 No.37127032 Report

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>>37127012
Judging from the reaction he got, it sounds like that's not a common opinion for GO players (or at least modern ones) to have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 04:23:40 No.37127042 Report

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>>37123933
>casuals
>investing in Pokemon
This is masuda tier logic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 04:34:09 No.37127094 Report

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>>37123933
>Pokemon is too complicated
Who the fuck says this? No seriously before LGPE I've never seen this argument ever come up, if anything, I would see people saying Pokemon is too simplistic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 04:36:18 No.37127100 Report

Quoted By: >>37127111 >>37127809

>>37123933
The game is fine without items and abilities.

Casually it doesn't matter and competitively it actually makes for a fairly interesting different meta. It's just autists overreacting about
>WAAAH THING IS DIFFERENT AND DIFFERENT = BAD

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 04:38:03 No.37127111 Report

Quoted By: >>37127114

>>37127100

Never go full contrarian

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 04:39:01 No.37127114 Report

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>>37127111
If being a contrarian means not being an autist then I'm glad I'm a contrarian.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 04:40:49 No.37127123 Report

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>game is better because my charmander's ember did 13 damage when it was at low hp instead of 10 damage

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Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 04:51:44 No.37127178 Report

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>the new pokemon are too intimidating
People are actually retarded. Where does it say that it's required to know all the pokemon or what moves they learn in order to enjoy the game? Nowhere. If you really enjoy monster-themed games and are a real kaiju lover then you should be looking forward to exploring and discovering all the new creatures, that's really the whole point of pokemon. Moreover, compared to other series like Yu-Gi-Oh for example pokemon has added a small amount of creatures. Yu-Gi-Oh adds hundreds each year while pokemon has 800 in 22 fucking years and thanks to fucking crybabies they won't even add 100 per generation nowadays.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 04:58:23 No.37127213 Report

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Why do people act like you actually need to remember every single pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 05:08:12 No.37127265 Report

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I honestly didn't notice any of that shit until my ex-gf called me a fake gamer for not playing comp Pokemon around Gen 5. All I knew is that I shouldn't physically attack Poison and Electric types and that if it's floating it's probably immune to Ground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 06:26:37 No.37127685 Report

Quoted By: >>37127694

>>37127012
>>37127032
that looks like an incel minority

really the only bad thing the sinnoh release did was squishing it before a retarded halloween event, I got many co-workers who are go-only players being Weavilefags

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 06:27:53 No.37127694 Report

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>>37127685
>Weavilefags
Well as long as they aren't furries that's fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 06:28:45 No.37127700 Report

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>it's another "random Reddit post that isn't even heavily upvoted or anything" thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 06:33:49 No.37127721 Report

Quoted By: >>37127902 >>37127908

>>37123999
News flash, you’re either mocked more than they are or completely irrelevant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 06:34:51 No.37127724 Report

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>>37124004
RSE and DPPl is when people starting jumping ship, retard.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 06:42:32 No.37127740 Report

Quoted By: >>37127762

Idea: for the next mainline game, one of the first questions you're asked is how much Pokemon experience you had. The options are:
>"Just getting started." The game gives extra tutorial dialog to explain how things work.
>"Some experience." - The game doesn't explain the basics, but gives a refresher on things like abilities, held items, etc.
>"I'm a pro!" - The game doesn't explain anything unless it's completely new for the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 06:47:57 No.37127762 Report

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>>37127740
>GF
>put in options
LOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 06:54:11 No.37127793 Report

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>>37126543
>>37127724
>samefag
They’re not intimidating at all unless you’re a dumb as a rock. Abilities, held items, and competitive potential had nothing to do with the drop in sales. The loss in sales was merely the fading of the fad and the loss of genwunners when the Gameboy Advance released and many of them decided to leave. Kids have been joining the franchise’s fan base every single generation and probably none of them are intimidated by that shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 06:57:11 No.37127809 Report

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>>37127100
The game is not entirely fine without items. I agree that many items and abilities are extraneous, but I definitely miss some, like Eviolite, Levitate, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 06:58:11 No.37127812 Report

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>>37127012

This guy is a low effort troll. No true gewunner would actually refer to Pokemon using "generation" lingo, because there's only Original Pokemon, and everything after that is New Pokemon.

As for >>37123933 faggot, to say that everything that came after Gen 1 is bad is to say that Pokemon could not have been any better than Gen 1, and everything that came after made Pokemon worse. Not only is that impossible, it's obnoxiously narrow minded and vain.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 06:58:38 No.37127813 Report

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>>37127012
I love every generation, but I admit that a generation limiting option for GO would be really nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 07:25:19 No.37127902 Report

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>>37127721
t.redditor

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Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 07:26:49 No.37127908 Report

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>>37127721
Considering the downvote this post get I think its safe to assume that his opinion doesnt matter either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 07:28:18 No.37127910 Report

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>>37126958
Go brink them back anon of course they still exist

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Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 07:30:00 No.37127918 Report

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>>37124009
Most of them are old enough to have jobs and maybe kids. At that point being able to play two player Pokemon for an hour or two after work with your spouse/kid and making some progress in game is preferable to playing a grindier single player experience in your limited free time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 07:55:14 No.37127987 Report

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>>37124185

Pokken exists

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 08:00:44 No.37128001 Report

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Yeah, remember when kids didn't play pokemon because learning about 150 different characters was too intimidating?
Just imagine having to do that.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 08:03:41 No.37128008 Report

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>>37123933
YOU DON'T ACTUALLY NEED TO KNOW ANY OF THAT TO PLAY THE GAMES THOUGH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA DON'T FUCK EVERYTHING UP FOR THE OTHER 15 MILLION THAT BOUGHT YOUR FUCKING GAME MASUDA

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 08:20:53 No.37128051 Report

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>>37123933
Stay on reddit

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Anonymous Fri 30 Nov 2018 08:26:54 No.37128062 Report

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>>37123933
The question is: Is it worth to make the games worse for the sake of attracting people who TURNED AWAY from Pokémon at the risk of losing the true fans?

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