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Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 18:08:00 No.37144504 View View Reply Original Report

Explain this shit /vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 18:08:25 No.37144506 Report

Quoted By: >>37144575

play the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 18:10:36 No.37144520 Report

Quoted By: >>37144528 >>37146104 >>37146258 >>37153507

they realized ORAS was a mistake and want to erase it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 18:11:35 No.37144528 Report

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>>37144504
Multiverse bullshit.
>>37144520
But USUM was an even bigger mistake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 18:12:39 No.37144530 Report

Quoted By: >>37144554 >>37144575 >>37145007

>>37144504
Maxie and Archer from USUM come from a timeline where they won. Yhey got recruited by Giovanni.
ORAS Maxie and Archie are just two dumbfucks who made a mistake and went on their ways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 18:12:46 No.37144531 Report

Quoted By: >>37144575

>>37144504
Play the fucking game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 18:13:32 No.37144539 Report

Quoted By: >>37145007

>>37144504
ORAS Archie and Maxie were former friends who had the genuine good of the world in mind, but lost their way. RSE Archie and Maxie were scumbag extremist gangsters from the start, and got recruited into the interdimensional gang of retards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 18:14:15 No.37144548 Report

Quoted By: >>37144575

>>37144504
>Make a lore and story to cater to the dumbest kids on the planet
>/vp/ still can't understand it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 18:14:59 No.37144552 Report

Quoted By: >>37144562

>>37144504
The character proportions in USUM are terrible, I'm glad they fixed it.
Also Archie looked like an angsty teen in USUM , at least in the (re)redesign he looks like a competent daddy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 18:15:03 No.37144554 Report

Quoted By: >>37144565 >>37144568

>>37144530
>Different timeline makes your skin black
What?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 18:16:02 No.37144562 Report

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>>37144552
woops, meant "in ORAS"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 18:16:27 No.37144565 Report

Quoted By: >>37145288

>>37144554
Black Archie actually just has a really deep tan, because unlike the other Archies he's genuine in his love of the ocean and spends all his time out in the sun baking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 18:16:40 No.37144568 Report

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>>37144554
Yes anon, you're white in another dimension.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 18:17:13 No.37144575 Report

Quoted By: >>37144597 >>37144909 >>37145221

>>37144506
>>37144531
>touching 3ds pokemon
fuck off faggots
>>37144530
sounds like a bad fanfic
>>37144548
explain then genuis

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 18:17:50 No.37144580 Report

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>>37144504
Fountain of youth (and design) obviously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 18:18:35 No.37144585 Report

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>>37144504
Something about multiverses and different timelines. Probably going to be more of a thing in the future as a cheap way to continue bringing back old characters without having to explain much.

Side note, why the fuck did pokemon get involved with multiverse stuff in the first place?

What was wrong with the straight forward timeline? Was it really because Game Freak couldn't think of a way to organically bring Mega Evolution into the mix, so they just said "uh... Multiverse!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 18:21:10 No.37144597 Report

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>>37144575
You sound like someone who doesn't even care. Why should we waste our time explaining anything?

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Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 18:21:40 No.37144601 Report

Quoted By: >>37144624 >>37144633 >>37144950

>>37144585
Because they didnt find another way on how they could implement megas for the hoenn remake. thats why they came up with this bullshit but hey USUM made it worse and added alien people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 18:21:51 No.37144606 Report

Quoted By: >>37145007

>>37144585
Making a consistent chronology of events is hard, please understand.
But seriously they probably saw the clusterfuck that is the Zelda timeline and decided that it would be easier to go the capeshit multiverse route.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 18:23:54 No.37144617 Report

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>>37144585
You literally cant go wrong with multiverse. You have so much creative freedom and it shuts up people shouting inconsistent for every new title.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 18:24:44 No.37144624 Report

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>>37144601
I would commit war crimes on the redhead's butt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 18:25:26 No.37144633 Report

Quoted By: >>37144655

>>37144585
>>37144601
Honestly I prefer this over the remakes retconning the original games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 18:27:52 No.37144655 Report

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>>37144633
Thats why we get features cut from future remakes.
>sorry anon this timeline has the battle frontier under construction

Please understanduuu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 18:31:02 No.37144674 Report

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>>37144504
Wormholes n shieet

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 19:06:07 No.37144909 Report

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>>37144575
>EXPLAIN THIS NOW YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS
>given explanation
>LMAO I DON'T CARE WHO PLAYS POKEMON ANYWAY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 19:11:54 No.37144950 Report

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>>37144601
I want to explore Soliera's Ultra Wormhole

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 19:18:19 No.37144985 Report

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>in another dimension I get to have BBC
It's not fucking fair, lads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 19:21:41 No.37145007 Report

Quoted By: >>37145038 >>37145073 >>37145078 >>37148844

>>37144606
But the pokemon timeline makes less sense, because outside a very general order of events there is no definitive answer of which games are in which timeline

>>37144530
>>37144539
what I dont get is, if they won, why would they ever wanna then team up again and open up the possibility to defeat rather than chill in their own personal worlds?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 19:24:34 No.37145038 Report

Quoted By: >>37146313

>>37145007
>open up the possibility to defeat rather than chill in their own personal worlds?
A great conqueror always wants more and is never satisfied. Giovannis plan is too literally try to control the multiverse now where as in the originals he just wanted to control Kanto.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 19:28:37 No.37145073 Report

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>>37145007
>why would they ever wanna then team up again
They didn't, each of them mentions having been engulfed in their worlds and waking up in a new one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 19:29:07 No.37145078 Report

Quoted By: >>37145183 >>37145188

>>37145007
RBY/FRLG/RSE/ORAS
>3 years
GSC/HGSS/DPPt
>3+ years
BW
>2 years
B2W2/XY
>2 years
SM/USUM
this has probably been posted a thousand times in the past week

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 19:43:50 No.37145183 Report

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>>37145078
I know that, Im saying that all the different interpretations and where they line up individually is left so vague that the only thing we know for sure is where each game would end up in their respective timelines.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 19:44:25 No.37145188 Report

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>>37145078
>posted a thousand times in the past week
and its wrong as fuck the pokemon timeline isnt linear anymore it branches off

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 19:46:25 No.37145199 Report

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non-mega timeline is spicy and is getting blasted out of the postgame sphincter

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 19:47:54 No.37145209 Report

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>>37144504
They did a downgrade to Archie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 19:48:10 No.37145210 Report

Quoted By: >>37146083

Rainbow Rocket leaders were from universes where they won, which were different from the canon events shown in USM.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 19:51:14 No.37145221 Report

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>>37144575
you should try the 3ds games, they're like gen 5 but with better regions, and in gen 7s case, much better characters

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 20:00:05 No.37145288 Report

Quoted By: >>37145318 >>37153655

>>37144565
underrated post.

Aside from the multiverse bullshit itself, I wonder what role Colress might play in future games. Imagine Colress teaming up with another Colress; one of them coming up with some genius idea and the other one, however, disagreeing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 20:04:50 No.37145318 Report

Quoted By: >>37145367

>>37145288
Imagine Pokemon without this multiverse bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 20:11:03 No.37145367 Report

Quoted By: >>37145456 >>37145484 >>37145512 >>37147229

>>37145318
At this point I would rather just have a Pokémon game take place in the past, something like feudal Japan, and skip the poorly written sci fi shit altogether.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 20:25:13 No.37145456 Report

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>>37145367
I would love something like this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 20:29:08 No.37145484 Report

Quoted By: >>37145490 >>37145512

>>37145367
only for it to finally get interrupted by alien trainers from the future trying to take over
KINO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 20:30:17 No.37145490 Report

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>>37145484
How about no

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 20:32:12 No.37145512 Report

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>>37145367
>>37145484
the story is just fine, why try to ruin it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 21:57:39 No.37146083 Report

Quoted By: >>37146160 >>37146419 >>37148824

>>37145210
How did Maxie and Archie win though? I was of the understanding that if Rayquayza didn't step in, then Groudon would cause an extreme drought, or Kyorge would flood Hoenn completely. Only Ghetsis is believeable since he rules Unova with an iron fist, while Cyrus is just a stern father figure God.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 22:00:35 No.37146101 Report

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>>37144504
Nostalgia to help sell the same game twice with zero meaningful difference from the ones that came out the previous year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 22:01:18 No.37146104 Report

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>>37144520
ORAS is the remake of RSE and has way too much good shit in it for you to say such unbelievable bullshit about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 22:02:27 No.37146113 Report

Quoted By: >>37147356

>>37144504
Parallel Universes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 22:02:33 No.37146114 Report

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Alternate Timelines and shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 22:09:29 No.37146160 Report

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>>37146083
in emerald you have to go to the tower and call rayquaza to interfere in ruby and saphire you just have to battle them so if the protag faied then their plan can just continue

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 22:23:34 No.37146258 Report

Quoted By: >>37146315

>>37144520
Archie and Maxie in ORAS was GOAT. He looks and acts like the kind of guy that I would expect to unleash a legendary Pokemon, fight it, and flood the world. His team should've been upgraded to include a Hauntail, Wishcash, and Ludicolo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 22:32:43 No.37146313 Report

Quoted By: >>37146333 >>37146913

>>37145038
>Giovannis plan is too literally try to control the multiverse now where as in the originals he just wanted to control Kanto.
Which is why the whole Rainbow Rocket episode was total shit. Completely ruined Giovanni and several other characters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 22:33:18 No.37146315 Report

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>>37146258
Huntail would definitely suit remake Archie, now that I think about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 22:34:32 No.37146322 Report

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Original versions didn't seek out Primal power and they didn't want Giovanni's Mewtwo getting overshadowed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 22:34:47 No.37146323 Report

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Maxie used the money from liquidated Team Magma assets to get Lasik and Archie went the way of Michael Jackson

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 22:37:48 No.37146333 Report

Quoted By: >>37153353

>>37146313
Rocket Rainbow exists in the first place because people didn't like the idea of Lusamine being the villain of Sun and Moon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 22:56:36 No.37146419 Report

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>>37146083
They "won" in the sense that nobody stopped them. Archie and Maxie both vaguely recall nearly being killed by their disasters right before Giovanni plucked them out of their world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 23:23:37 No.37146569 Report

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>>37144624
Dulse is a qt ain't he?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Dec 2018 23:25:10 No.37146583 Report

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>>37144585
The multiverse has been a thing since day one, you literally cannot complete your Pokedex without linking to another universe to acquire Pokemon that you didn't pick or aren't found in the wild.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 00:07:54 No.37146913 Report

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>>37146313
original giovanni was just some stupid gangster whereas USUM Giovanni is a beast who already conquered several timelines.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 00:22:54 No.37147031 Report

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>that person who cries about the multiverse in every single lore thread and samefag replies to himself to make it look like there is a sizable portion of the fanbase that even gives a shit
Cringe

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 00:46:21 No.37147229 Report

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>>37145367
Yeah how dare they introduce corny sci-fi tropes into this series. What's next, pollution monsters? Aliens from the Moon? Matter/energy converting capsule technology?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 01:00:10 No.37147330 Report

Quoted By: >>37147497

>>37144504
ORAS Archie/Maxie are different than RS Archie and Maxie. Two different universes. USUM created another 7 extra universes with this explanation though. The 4 RS universes, 1 where Maxie wins, one where Maxie loses, one where Archie wins and one where Archie loses, and the 4 ORAS universes in which they share the same different outcomes as the RS universes only that Mega Evolution exists in the 4 ORAS universes.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 01:03:06 No.37147356 Report

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>>37146113

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Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 01:11:15 No.37147403 Report

Quoted By: >>37147497

>>37144504
>take a bland old design
>make it perfect
>never use it again, and go back to the inferior version the very next gen

gamefreak is fucking dumb

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 01:26:05 No.37147497 Report

Quoted By: >>37153266

>>37147403
They clearly arent the same Archie.
>>37147330
There is more than just 4 universes.
Ruby Saphire and Emerald. Thats already 3 then the other two where Archie respectively Maxie wins. Thats 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 01:41:01 No.37147592 Report

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>>37144585
The main timeline's versions of those characters lost. Would Giovanni want failures?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 03:49:21 No.37148423 Report

Quoted By: >>37148435

>>37144504
>nnigger archie
mistakes were made

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 03:52:26 No.37148435 Report

Quoted By: >>37148444

>>37148423
>Impyling whitewashed archie is better than redbone archie
Garbage taste honestly, go back to watching battlestar you fucking mook

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 03:55:24 No.37148444 Report

Quoted By: >>37148510

>>37148435
>whitewashed
you mean blackfaced? his original design was fine as it is no need to sperg out Tyrone

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 04:02:10 No.37148477 Report

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>>37144504
They desaturated the models again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 04:08:10 No.37148501 Report

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Lasik and vitamin D deficiency from staying underwater half the time

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 04:09:48 No.37148510 Report

Quoted By: >>37148573

>>37148444
>getting a tan is blackface
That's some tumblr logic right there

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 04:13:32 No.37148525 Report

Quoted By: >>37148592

>>37144504
>Top is reddit Archie and Maxie, both flanderized and look and act just like characters that would appeal to reddit
>Bottom is good old Archie and Maxie, pretty cool looking and actually look and act like the scumbags they're supposed to be

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 04:25:15 No.37148573 Report

Quoted By: >>37148583

>>37148510
>liking darksin anything
you literally a tumblrite

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Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 04:27:46 No.37148583 Report

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>>37148573
>not appreciating delicious brown

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Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 04:29:33 No.37148592 Report

Quoted By: >>37148838

>>37148525
Archie and Maxie were never scumbags, ORAS just expounded on it more. And made Archie attractive.

Despacito

Despacito Mon 03 Dec 2018 04:30:56 No.37148600 Report

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The color swap is real.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 05:21:10 No.37148824 Report

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>>37146083
Cyrus hasn't "won" like the others, his appearance in USUM is consistent with his appearance with Platinum. It happens between Giratina appearing and Distortion World.
>That must mean this isn't the world I desired. I used the power of the Pokémon that control time and space to create a perfect world, where the human spirit does not exist. That was when a great shadow appeared and engulfed me... And brought me to this world

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 05:24:45 No.37148838 Report

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>>37148583
>>37148592
i don't get the appeal

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 05:25:36 No.37148844 Report

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>>37145007
Technically speaking, they both still fucked up. They were both about to die before they were saved by a wormhole. Ghetsis is the only person who really would have won. Cyrus would have been ass fucked by Giratina or Cynthia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 05:38:17 No.37148896 Report

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>>37144504

The ones in USUM are the ones from Ruby and Sapphire and not the ones from ORAS.

I think we figured that out when they first unveiled the rainbow rocket storyline.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 06:28:20 No.37149130 Report

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>>37144504
I can't believe archie got whitewashed. wtf gamefreak

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 06:30:37 No.37149138 Report

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>>37144504
They realized they were shitty redesigns and went back to the originals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 09:20:54 No.37149802 Report

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Gen 7 games we're already chugging during battles so they had to tone down the polygons.
Notice how the gen 6 characters with in battle models like lysandre were much more detailed compared to the gen 7 ones. Wally's gen 7 model was also lower quality compared to the gen 6 one

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 19:15:25 No.37152330 Report

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>>37144504
They're the GBA equivalents

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 22:21:32 No.37153266 Report

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>>37147497
I'm speaking specifically about the ones referenced in the OP. Of course there are more universes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 22:36:25 No.37153353 Report

Quoted By: >>37153486

>>37146333
I think it was because her character and story was fucking retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 22:54:31 No.37153486 Report

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>>37153353
You're thinking of Zinnia

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 22:57:07 No.37153507 Report

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>>37144520
Based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Dec 2018 23:19:48 No.37153655 Report

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>>37145288
You can't imagine how ecstatic I was to learn Colress came back for USUM. He's one of my most favourite Pokemon characters and they didn't do him justice in BW2. Not saying they did him justice in USUM, but it was a whole lot better than nothing.

Ghetsis was also written very well in the Rocket episode. Most of the other leaders were handled pretty blandly.

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