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Anonymous Sat 22 Dec 2018 21:36:42 No.37251768 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>37251788 >>37251820 >>37251906 >>37254229 >>37254373

Top speed pokemon
max Speed EVs Attack EV's
Choice Band

Go first in 95% of situations
Explosion, you sac a guy but could that kill pretty much anything?

Is that viable? I mean, it is weak to them switching out a ghost...

Trying to build a misfits team

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Dec 2018 21:41:26 No.37251788 Report

Quoted By: >>37252026 >>37255483

>>37251768
Suicide leads fell out of vogue during gen 5 though admittedly i'm not sure why

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Dec 2018 21:51:43 No.37251820 Report

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>>37251768
>50 base atk
I think a lvl100 adamant electrode with full atk investment, even with choice band, hits just around the same effective attack points as a mon that had 100 base atk, like zygarde, or mew. I haven't done the calcs, so I could be wrong, but I doubt it would be much higher than that.

Considering explosion is not the 500 bp move it used to be and it doesn't get STAB, you're probably killing absolutely nothing with it, losing a team slot in the process.

What do you want this misfits team for? showdown? wi-fi?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Dec 2018 22:06:42 No.37251904 Report

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>choice band
>not normal gem

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Dec 2018 22:07:46 No.37251906 Report

Quoted By: >>37252026

>>37251768
>252+ Atk Choice Band Electrode Explosion vs. 248 HP / 104+ Def Celesteela: 99-117 (24.9 - 29.4%) -- guaranteed 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
>Is that viable?
no

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Dec 2018 22:46:16 No.37252026 Report

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>>37251788
self-destruct and explosion halved the target's defense whenever it hit, so even stuff like electrode could deal massive damage with a 500 BP move. the only viable suicide leads now are stuff like azelf and archeops.

>>37251906
>252+ Atk Choice Band Electrode Explosion vs. 252 HP / 240+ Def Mesprit: 175-206 (48 - 56.5%) -- 89.1% chance to 2HKO
this is a more relevant calc since celesteela isn't in PU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Dec 2018 06:18:16 No.37253717 Report

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>Absolute best case scenario
Your Explosion hits a very very frail Pokemon and the game is now 5-5.
>Average scenario
You hit something that's not a Ghost but isn't one-shot by the weak Explosion, so they take decent damage but you're down 5-6.
>Worst case scenario
You hit a Ghost and you're down 5-6.

It's not viable. Dual Screens Electrode gives you more value, though Electrode isn't very good in general. If you're looking for a CB exploder, you should use something that has an actual Attack stat and other threatening physical moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Dec 2018 09:36:26 No.37254229 Report

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>>37251768
Elctrode is a weak explosion user. Better use anything with focus sash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Dec 2018 10:22:10 No.37254373 Report

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>>37251768
>Is that viable?
no, that achieves nothing.
normal suicide leads at least get something done before they take an opponent with them. eg. set up stealth rocks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Dec 2018 16:55:33 No.37255439 Report

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Golem @ Custap Berry
Sturdy
Lonely (0/31/0/-/0/31)
255 Atk 255 Spe
Stealth Rock
Explosion
Fire Punch/Focus Punch
Earthquake/Stone Edge

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Dec 2018 17:08:03 No.37255483 Report

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>>37251788
Team preview removes the suicide lead's greatest asset, which is to say surprise.
That's also why Zoroark was so mediocre from day 1.

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