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ITT: Fix Pokemon

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 13:32:20 No.37259836 View View Reply Original Report

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Kyurem-Black

>Gets Earthquake ffs
>Gets Icicle Crash
Then Freeze Shock retconned:
>Power: 140
>Acc: 90 %
>Has 1/2 recoil. 30% Paralyze. User is hurt by 25% if it misses.

Same rules for Ice Burn. (Kyurem-White for AG?)

There. Black can finally be in Uber like he deserves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 13:36:14 No.37259839 Report

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>>37259836
>that freeze shock
>banded kyurem
I'm honestly curious, can a banded timid kyurem OHKO primal groudon? that'd be fucking neat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 13:37:13 No.37259841 Report

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>Same rules for Ice Burn. (Kyurem-White for AG?)
Do you even understand how a pokemon gets banned to AG?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 13:50:36 No.37259854 Report

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A lot of pokemon need to be fixed before Kyurem-N. Sorry gadbros, not today

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 13:59:13 No.37259874 Report

Quoted By: >>37264294 >>37265926

>>37259836
>Do you even understand how a pokemon gets banned to AG?

Hence the question mark.
At the very least Ice Burn might get banned. Like Double Team. I doubt a base 140 Ice-type Scald with recoil would fly well with Smogon and their precious Stall.

>>37259839
>timid
I think you meant Jolly? Here's the calcs.

Uber Stealth Rock + SD P-Diddy
>252 Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Freeze Shock vs. 144 HP / 0 Def Groudon-Primal: 279-328 (74 - 87%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Uber Defensive Support P-Diddy
>252 Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Freeze Shock vs. 252 HP / 56+ Def Groudon-Primal: 244-288 (60.3 - 71.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Yeah that'd hit ridiculously hard, but it'd be dead from recoil in like 2-3 turns anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 14:11:15 No.37259890 Report

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>>37259836
>Kyurem-White for AG?)
He's not even go in ubers so no

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 15:28:47 No.37260087 Report

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Give it Ice Punch for logical reasons

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 18:15:06 No.37260686 Report

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>>37259836
>literally has a fist made of ice
>can't fucking use Ice Punch
I don't understand. Not like the thing would be broken with a usable physical ice STAB.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 18:20:11 No.37260707 Report

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>>37259836
demote game freak to making mobile shovelware and hire atlus to make the mainline games. there, pokemon is fixed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 19:16:44 No.37260912 Report

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>>37260707
>actually wanting more waifufaggotry
Gross.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 19:18:15 No.37260921 Report

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>>37259836
>everyone wants Kyurem-B to go to Ubers
stallfags please

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 19:25:00 No.37260953 Report

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>>37260686
well, that means Kyurem would be able to learn it, and with those tiny arms that aint happening

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 19:31:59 No.37260979 Report

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>>37260953
There are Pokemon with exactly zero arms that can use Ice Punch.

Also, let's try fixing something else.
>all the Regis
Now learn Recover at level 1
>Regigigas specifically
Slow Start begins counting down at the start of the battle, and not from whenever Regigigas switches in. In the age of Megas and Tapu, a 670 BP Normal-type with effectively no Ability after turn 5 probably wouldn't be too broken for OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 19:33:29 No.37260983 Report

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>>37260979
At least give gigas fucking Protect and Substitute, the thing has no way to keep itself alive right now so good fucking luck getting it to survive five turns.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 19:38:37 No.37261009 Report

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>>37260979
Learns detect
Learns recover
Slow start still has 5 turns but any five turns it's out even forced to and it doesn't come bsck
>pic
Gets a mega launcher clone for slash moves
learns sacred sword

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 21:45:38 No.37261522 Report

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>>37261009
Shit that could've been good

Alternatively, buff Inner Focus, either change the effect or add "focus punch behaves like a normal attacking move and focus blast never misses", that way it's fighting STAB hits just as hard as Megacham but with no risks but still misses out on fake out and stronger psychic STAB.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 21:51:16 No.37261553 Report

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>>37259836
>Weezing

Give it Stealth Rock and Recover

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 22:39:52 No.37261755 Report

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>>37260979
gigas needs protect and sub, with that movepool and z moves bypassing protect it'd be fair, but if you want to make slow start better let regi recover its stats 10% each turn, till it reach 110% compensating the previous turns

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 22:58:01 No.37261833 Report

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>>37261009
>Slow start still has 5 turns but any five turns it's out even forced to and it doesn't come bsck

Dunno what the fuck this means, but if Slow Start also grants immunity to phazing, there you go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 23:02:03 No.37261847 Report

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>>37261833
That anon probably means the counter for Slow Start doesn't restart even after Regigas switched.

Really tho even without slow start mons like Regigas and Slaking won't even be broken in OU when there are things like Mega Mawile,Megacham,Tapu Bulu with insane damage output

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 23:03:00 No.37261852 Report

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>>37259836
Give it a 780+ BST too

There's no reason why fusing two legendaries together should yield shittier results than some rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 23:04:32 No.37261865 Report

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>>37260912
>actually wanting gamefreak as developers
Gross

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 23:04:51 No.37261867 Report

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Give Greninja Knock Off
Ash-Greninja now becomes suspect worthy for an Ubers ban

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 23:05:35 No.37261872 Report

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>>37261009
Make M Gallade fairy/fighting

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 23:08:58 No.37261885 Report

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>>37261865
Never said I wanted that. We both know that Atlus would up the waifu factor by an order of magnitude.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 23:08:59 No.37261886 Report

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>>37260979
Honestly I think Regigigas should get the hazard moves to make use of the good bulk. Recover stalling until terrains wear of would be a helpful role.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 23:10:06 No.37261893 Report

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>>37261553
SR I can understand not having but no reason for it not to have recover

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 23:11:22 No.37261898 Report

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>>37261885
>We both know that Atlus would up the waifu factor by an order of magnitude.
That's literally every jrpg dev besides square who's more concerned with fujopandering instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 23:23:59 No.37261959 Report

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>>37261893
If weezing have recovery it's actually not that bad as a wall, just move 30 from the attack stat to special defense.

Since it's only weak to psychic too and can't be trapped if you give it defog(doesn't really make sense but then again Fini and Klefki can learn it) it could be useful as anti hazard

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Anonymous Tue 25 Dec 2018 02:58:53 No.37262591 Report

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>>37261009
Dream gallade right here

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Dec 2018 03:32:38 No.37262671 Report

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>>37259836
>Mega Steelix
Right now it's just a shittier version of M-Aggron, give it Magnet Pull, that's all it needs to secure a niche, it's now a steel trapper that have no hard time dealing with Scizor or Mega Mawile as their common coverage move(Superpower, Fire Fang) barely 3HKO Steelix without totally stealing niche from Magnezone which deals with Skarmory way easier.

Seeing how M-Steelix have those revolving steel fragments maybe it'll be nice with a Rapid Spin too/

Maybe while you're at it give it and Mega Aggron a recovery move too. I don't think they'll be that broken since they took up a megaslot and special attacker exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Dec 2018 03:39:38 No.37262683 Report

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Give Klingklang Earthquake and all of its troubles vanish.
Give Earthquake to every physical attacker. It's always a shame when one doesn't get it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Dec 2018 03:55:22 No.37262717 Report

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>>37262671
Same anon, but Haxorus can easily be improved by being part steel and getting Iron Head, fits the design too.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Dec 2018 04:37:38 No.37262815 Report

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>>37259836
This thing

Dex said it grows big and strong but he still got the fkin same ability just renamed.

Either give it the very fitting Intimidate or simply change Emergency Exit to work after attacking instead of wasting a turn. It's the easiest buff in the game and would easily bump Golisopod a tier

Golispod have a good bulk and decent attack with priority moves, that could've easily been good, banded First Impression OHKO's Megacham, Greninja, Alakazam, Victini after rocks. It also beats Mega Swampert at it's own game when it's raining as banded Liquidation OHKOs

Just pair it with a Tapu that's not Lele to get rid of Psychic Terrain and Magnezone to take out the steels maybe, idk but that'll still be much better than what we got.

>>37261009
I wished we got that Gallade, got a niche in OU with a good speed tier. give it smart strike too that works with the mega launcher clone for fairies maybe.

>>37261553
Also move some bst from attack to spa or spd, good wall with decent power right there

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Anonymous Tue 25 Dec 2018 05:06:52 No.37262904 Report

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>>37259836
Fork over jump kick or high jump kick, the off putting face can be interpreted as a Luchador mask anyway. Both anime Rowlet and Pokken Decidueye do plenty of kicks anyway.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Dec 2018 05:28:29 No.37262954 Report

Quoted By: >>37262964 >>37263502

>Give it a physical version of Quiver Dance

>Now uses Power Trip to do some real damage

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Anonymous Tue 25 Dec 2018 05:30:22 No.37262964 Report

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>>37262954
You could also run baton pass Scolipede followed up with bul-
Oh, I see poor anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Dec 2018 09:40:54 No.37263502 Report

Quoted By: >>37263964 >>37264102 >>37265933

>>37262954
>Give it a physical version of Quiver Dance

What would you name it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Dec 2018 14:40:12 No.37263964 Report

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>>37263502
Shiver Dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Dec 2018 14:44:46 No.37263971 Report

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>>37262964
Are you retarded? You'd just get your shit kicked in by someone baton passing to Pokemon that are actually good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Dec 2018 14:48:07 No.37263981 Report

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>>37262717
give it technician as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Dec 2018 15:44:07 No.37264102 Report

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>>37263502
Gritty Ditty

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Dec 2018 16:59:51 No.37264294 Report

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>>37259874
>I doubt a base 140 Ice-type Scald with recoil would fly well with Smogon and their precious Stall.
Why? It'd be very easy to absorb for stall, just switch in Chansey or Primal Kyogre.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Dec 2018 21:09:30 No.37265204 Report

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>now learns sludge bomb
>atk - 3
>speed + 3

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Anonymous Tue 25 Dec 2018 23:17:48 No.37265592 Report

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>>37261553
Remove SR. Keep Recover and give it Purify.

Also, give it an alolan form:

>Alolan Weezing
>Type: Water
>Ability: Levitate / Immunity / HA: Power of Asepsis
>Learns Bubblebeam, Refresh, Purify, Recover, Hydro Pump, Scald, Water Spout, Heal Bell, Spikes, Acid Armor, Stealth Rock, Recover (in place of Toxic Spikes), Blizzard etc. standard water-type tank moves.

>Removes Poison & Fire moves for Water / Ice moves and other moves related to cleanliness.

>Power of Asepsis: Cleans field of pollution and clout. (Removes hazards and poison/toxic status of all on the field on switch / end of turn).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Dec 2018 00:47:57 No.37265926 Report

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>>37259874
it's still a part-ice type with only 95 speed
that isn't near enough to make it AG material

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Dec 2018 00:49:07 No.37265933 Report

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>>37263502

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