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Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 14:46:09 No.37259963 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>37259980 >>37260014 >>37260039 >>37260112 >>37260339 >>37260501 >>37260588

When is Gamefreak going to get around to filling around common gimmicky moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 14:57:07 No.37259980 Report

Quoted By: >>37259994 >>37260495

>>37259963
>Never misses
I think fairy has one, disarmed voice or something. Fighting has vital throw.
>More priority
Fighting got the only special one, for some reason. I wish they made more vacuum wave clones.
>Chance to flinch
Water has waterfall, electric has zing zap, dragon got dragon rush, ice got icicle crash, as well as ice fang, kinda.
>Recoil damage
Fighting has the jumping kicks, if the ability reckless is anything to go by. Rock has head smash. Fairy has the extra rare light of ruin.
>Makes the target sleep
Why would we need one of these for every type? the only one you'll ever need is spore anyways

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 15:04:44 No.37259994 Report

Quoted By: >>37260112 >>37260168 >>37260630

>>37259980
What this guy here says + Thunder Fang.
Disarming Voice being a guaranteed hit is news to me but it seems to be true.
Add a category for high crit chance moves too.
Also, fix the spelling for Shock Wave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 15:10:57 No.37260014 Report

Quoted By: >>37260270

>>37259963
This is missing Aura Sphere for some reason, as the fighting type never misses move.

There's also never been another move like Pursuit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 15:13:24 No.37260023 Report

Quoted By: >>37260623

More U-Turn/Volt Switch clones when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 15:18:41 No.37260039 Report

Quoted By: >>37260078

>>37259963
Why would they? Why does every type need to have all the options? Rock isn't going to be improved by more secondary effect moves, having so many gimmicks behind them is one of their biggest problems and the real Christmas gift for Rock types would be "this attack's special feature is 100% accuracy and decent power". Normal should have more options than every other type because the only real reason to use Normal type attacks is neutral coverage, giving every other type Normal's tools would just cuck the type even more. Water is the last thing to need even more utility, just try to imagine a world where they can choose between Scald or a health draining move at will.
There's no real benefit to doing this other than the ability to say it's been done. Fundamentals should be perfected before relying on fancy tricks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 15:27:28 No.37260078 Report

Quoted By: >>37260101 >>37260149

>>37260039
>just try to imagine a world where they can choose between Scald or a health draining move at will.
Funny you say that, because unless they retcon the babby moves from lgpe before gen 8 comes, what you described is essentially what vaporeon will be able to do with scald and bouncy bubble (90 bp water giga drain).

But yeah realistically not all types need every tool. I'd still like if every type had both an OHKO move and a "needs to recharge" move, because no one uses those anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 15:30:51 No.37260101 Report

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>>37260078
It's extremely unlikely those will get past LGPE since only the Partner Forms can learn those shitter moves, and the starters are basically the glue holding the game together seeing as how you can't even trade them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 15:34:28 No.37260112 Report

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>>37259963
>what is Head Smash?

>>37259994
>fix the spelling for Shock Wave.
Noice

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 15:46:03 No.37260149 Report

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>>37260078

>partner eevee is a unique form of eevee
>only partner eevee can learn bouncy bubble
>partner eevee cannot evolve

There's no issue here

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 15:49:41 No.37260168 Report

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>>37259994

Also sleep powder is listed as a bug move, when it is grass. And grass is left blank when it has sleep powder, spore, and grass whistle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 16:26:34 No.37260270 Report

Quoted By: >>37260328

>>37260014
>Aura Sphere
You mean Vital Throw?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 16:38:57 No.37260328 Report

Quoted By: >>37260411

>>37260270
Aura sphere also doesn't miss, being arguably the best out of thid kind of move due to power alone.

For some reason fighting is a type that has unexpectedly useful special moves despite being irrevocably physical-oriented, and I'm not sure if irrevocably is a real word but that's besides the point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 16:41:42 No.37260339 Report

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>>37259963
Hypnosis is my favorite Ground move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 17:06:59 No.37260411 Report

Quoted By: >>37261312

>>37260328
It is, but I don't think you're using it properly. Unless you mean to say that the decision to make Fighting a physically-oriented type can't be revoked, which I guess is true but is still rather awkward phrasing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 17:13:12 No.37260446 Report

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There's a reason each type has differences beyond the type chart, anon. You can give exclusive moves to specific Pokemon if you want them to have a certain gimmick, but there's no reason for the types as a whole to have the same tools as every other type. For example, Breloom and Poliwrath are Fighting types with sleeping moves, but why should every Fighting type have their own sleep move? Doesn't fit with the theme of the type, only those two specific mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 17:18:24 No.37260464 Report

Quoted By: >>37260929

They need to add a Ghost-type draining move. So many Gen 5 and Gen 7 ghosts are said to drain life force/vitality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 17:32:47 No.37260495 Report

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>>37259980
also Bite and King's rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 17:34:36 No.37260501 Report

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>>37259963
Where is Aura Sphere?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 17:44:07 No.37260532 Report

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Hope this helps:
>Disarming Voice (fairy-no miss)
>Light of Ruin (fairy-recoil)
>Prismatic laser (psy-recharge)
>Waterfall (Flinch chance)
>Dragon Rush (Flinch)
>Wide guard (priority?)
>Icicle crash (Flinch)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 17:54:16 No.37260588 Report

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>>37259963
>goes through all this but doesn't put spore as one of the first sleeper moves/moves period

get your priorities straight man

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 17:58:35 No.37260611 Report

Quoted By: >>37260619

Poison needs more love
>Clear Smog don't misses

Also I would add increased crit rate or status infliction rather than just sleep

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 18:01:00 No.37260619 Report

Quoted By: >>37260633

>>37260611
Yes! this would be another great counter to evasion for Pokemon without Unaware ability!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 18:02:23 No.37260623 Report

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>>37260023
not until they make volturn minus priority like Teleport in LGPE

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 18:03:37 No.37260630 Report

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>>37259994
Disarming voice should get a power buff

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 18:04:01 No.37260633 Report

Quoted By: >>37260713

>>37260619
But Clear Smog actually never misses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 18:21:50 No.37260713 Report

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>>37260633
i didn't know that, sorry about that!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 19:20:35 No.37260929 Report

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>>37260464
>Life Drain
>60 BP, 100 acc, 5 PP, Special
>restores 1/4 of the damage dealt as HP, and also removes 1 power point from each of the target's moves (2 PP each if the user has Pressure)
How's this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Dec 2018 20:55:47 No.37261312 Report

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>>37260411
I see, maybe what I meant was inequivocably.

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