yes, i like a pokemon that dosent affect any of its counterparts negativly because it dosent have a counterpart to fuck up. Greninja ruined the other two kalos’ starters chances of being popular and the things just an annoying asshole anyway. And it dosent matter how good it is.you dont understand. Greninja broke the grass, fire , water gimmick by getting orotean and got a new form. This means even if the gen 6 starters get new forms greninja will always be one step ahead.there starters. i know ther popular but theres something about greninja that just pisses me off. i hate thatf ucking thing. its so annoying and so common like THERES 801 DIFFERENT POKEMON a nd half the fuckign meta is just te fucking frog BE DIFFERENT.i like medicham beaus ei just liek medichamdsjfk i dont even care its good, it being good just adds to it, i ahve killed an arceus with a meowstic. i can say its much more satisfying than killing it with a "good" pokemon.i think im mainly mad because since they see the pokemon geamfreak puts at the top its instantly there fave. and they probably will never try many other pokemon that arent already top of the list. im not even talking about tournaments, thats understandable. im talking about battles in general. i wish everyone would think like that, im tired of seeing charizard, greninja, lucario etc (i also asume anyone with anyone of these pokemon in a comp team is like... 10... i feel even competitive people would get tired of those three eventually) sorry for getting worked up justh