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Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 20:26:29 No.37296361 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>37296377 >>37296399 >>37296451 >>37296476 >>37296538 >>37296816

I'm sorry to say it but this is by far the greatest Pokemon game ever made.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 20:28:34 No.37296377 Report

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>>37296361
That's not Ranger

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 20:30:06 No.37296386 Report

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>>37296377
Ranger kind of sucked

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 20:31:06 No.37296394 Report

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>>37296386
It's a pleb filter desu desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 20:31:52 No.37296399 Report

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>>37296361
Not even the greatest game in gen 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 20:35:59 No.37296424 Report

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there is something similar to pokemon, but with real-time battles, a lot of violence, sandre and where you can kill your enemies

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 20:40:55 No.37296451 Report

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>>37296361
Id rather play anything else
>unboxable pikachu
>no held items
>no abilities
>broken programming
>ugly sprites
Just no

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 20:42:42 No.37296460 Report

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>>37296451
>unboxable pikachu

You should play the game anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 20:44:00 No.37296470 Report

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>>37296451
>>unboxable pikachu
>>broken programming
>>ugly sprites
stupid underagefag

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 20:44:48 No.37296476 Report

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>>37296361
That's not Emerald, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 20:51:48 No.37296511 Report

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>>37296451
Why do people pretend items and abilities are some vital feature that the game is unplayable without?

They're competitive fluff at the absolute best. They don't necessarily make the game better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 20:57:23 No.37296528 Report

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>>37296511
Because held items mix things up and give mons different movesets that wouldnt be viable and make otherwise non viable mons viable. Lots of people have middle or first stage evos as their favorite, or mons that are difficult to work with without items as their favorites. Having held items makes it possible for those designs to be used without suffering

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 20:58:05 No.37296532 Report

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>>37296511
Items are meh but many pokemon are unplayable without the signature abilities they got later on

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Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 20:59:02 No.37296538 Report

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>>37296361
You got the wrong game buddy but a close 4th

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 21:02:28 No.37296551 Report

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>>37296532
the only pokemon that need abilities are the pokemon that are literally designed around them like slaking and darmanitan.

>>37296528
>Because held items mix things up
no, they just add power creep and more bullshit 50/50 guessing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 21:06:12 No.37296566 Report

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>>37296511
>They don't necessarily make the game better.
Yes they do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 21:06:43 No.37296569 Report

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>>37296551
Held items do mix things up, they allow mons to use otherwise unusable movesets. Sorry you're too autistic to understand

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 21:07:29 No.37296572 Report

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>>37296569
If a Pokemon needs an item to be good then it was never good to begin with.
Same with abilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 21:09:23 No.37296578 Report

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>>37296572
But the item and ability are what MAKE them good you dense fuck
Obviously you could say 'yeah but if you removed everything that makes it strong it would be weak' about anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 21:11:21 No.37296588 Report

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>>37296572
Are you mentally deficient? Do you not understand the concept of different movesets? Hell, there are plenty of moves BASED around items and abilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 21:15:00 No.37296602 Report

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>>37296588
You're wasting your time. Yes, he is mentally deficient. About a month ago, he was posting in a thread here trying to convince the actual human beings he was talking with that items and abilities were actually bad. Being that most /vp/ posters are not insects like him, he got BTFO instantly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 21:22:05 No.37296635 Report

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>>37296572
Then Slaking would be king of non legends, and Scizor would still be the piece of crap it was in Gen 2, Arcanine would be useless as well.

Abilities make so many pokemon unique and not overshadowed by similar pokemon with the same type. It makes the pokemon world DIVERSE.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 21:22:57 No.37296638 Report

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lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 21:27:39 No.37296652 Report

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>>37296602
Holy fuck, how autistic can a person possibly get. It's bad enough he is so triggered by two mechanics that make the games much more interesting but to come back a month later and cry about it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 21:34:39 No.37296678 Report

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>>37296652
Actually, now that I think about it, it was two months.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 21:34:50 No.37296679 Report

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Yellow is worse than RBG

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 21:36:11 No.37296684 Report

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>>37296652
Pretty sure he does this all the time, I had this exact argument with someone the other day. He's probably just here 24/7

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 21:38:52 No.37296697 Report

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>>37296652
>>37296678
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/37017736/#q37018261

One month.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 21:39:54 No.37296701 Report

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>>37296679
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 21:40:55 No.37296705 Report

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>>37296697
kek few days ago
>I'm saying they don't change the gameplay in any meaningful way.
>My Charmander doing slightly more fire damage when its HP is low doesn't change the fact that I'm going to use Ember anyway.
My Snorlax getting 1/16 of its HP every turn doesn't change the fact that I'm just going to click the super effective move.
Razor Leaf and Mega Drain working off different stats isn't going to change the fact that I'm just going to run a STAB and some other coverage moves for my Venusaur.
>The game, at its core, is the fucking same regardless of the fluff they add that make the numbers work differently. OW encounters in LGPE are unironically the closest thing they've done to actually changing up the gameplay in this franchise because at least then it has the potential for actively changing how I hunt out Pokemon instead of "unga bunga me predict opponent and click good move"

He's just a master baiter

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 21:43:33 No.37296705,1 Report Delete

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the remake of it is better

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 21:55:12 No.37296768 Report

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>>37296566
No they don't. They make it different. Not better.

>>37296569
>they allow mons to use otherwise unusable movesets
You know what also allows them to use otherwise unusable movesets? Giving them more moves or better stats to begin with.

>>37296578
>But the item and ability are what MAKE them good
Tell me more about how Gengar and Alakazam were shit without items or abilities

>>37296588
>Do you not understand the concept of different movesets?
You don't need items for different movesets.

>>37296635
>Then Slaking would be king of non legends, and Scizor would still be the piece of crap it was in Gen 2, Arcanine would be useless as well.
Every generation has shit Pokemon and good Pokemon regardless of its mechanics. This metric is meaningless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 21:57:22 No.37296777 Report

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>>37296451
>ugly sprites
>unboxable pikachu
t. hasn't played the game and was probably born in the mid-2000s.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 21:57:56 No.37296780 Report

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>"i-items and abilities make more pokemon usable bros!"
>every new generation proceeds to have a larger percentage of garbage unviable pokemon than the last

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 21:58:04 No.37296781 Report

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>>37296768
>Alakazam was top tier in Gen 1 so he should be top tier in every gen because CHANGE BAD KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 21:58:50 No.37296786 Report

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>>37296476
I came here to post this

Also R/B/G have better sprites

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 22:01:33 No.37296799 Report

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>>37296768
>Tell me more about how Gengar and Alakazam were shit without items or abilities
Or I can introduce you to a Pokemon called Marowak

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Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 22:03:50 No.37296816 Report

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>>37296361
Wrong pic anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 22:05:06 No.37296820 Report

Quoted By: >>37296827

>>37296799
A Pokemon that continued to be complete garbage until they introduced its Alolan form? And even then doesn't even need to run a Thick Club on all its sets? Tell me more anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 22:05:21 No.37296823 Report

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>>37296816
Not even the best Smash in the last five years, lmao

At least Tr4sh had working online. Tr4.5h doesn't, and doesn't even have singleplayer modes to make up for it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 22:06:23 No.37296827 Report

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>>37296820
No, the one that jumped into OU in gen 2, when the Thick Club was added in. Fucking retard. Kill yourself my dude

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 22:07:11 No.37296832 Report

Quoted By: >>37296846

>>37296827
>No, the one that jumped into OU in gen 2, when the Thick Club was added in.
And then continued to spiral down into shitmon territory every gen after. Yikes!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 22:09:24 No.37296846 Report

Quoted By: >>37296864

>>37296832
>And then continued to spiral down into shitmon territory every gen after. Yikes!
So why was it OU in gen 2, again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 22:13:13 No.37296864 Report

Quoted By: >>37296887

>>37296846
Same reason as Machamp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 22:17:27 No.37296883 Report

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>>37296701
>Pokemon Blue (Jp.)
>Encounter Rates add up to 90%
What did he mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 22:17:36 No.37296887 Report

Quoted By: >>37296906

>>37296864
Machamp is OU because it's a Fighting type in a gen where half of every team is weak to Fighting. Marowak isn't a Fighting type.

Part of me thinks you're being obtuse on purpose, but I don't think you have the capacity to pretend to be unintelligent. I think it just comes naturally to you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 22:20:21 No.37296906 Report

Quoted By: >>37296918

>>37296887
>Machamp is OU because it's a Fighting type in a gen
No. It's OU because it fits the meta shift. Just like Marowak is OU because it fits the meta shift.

Items didn't save Marowak from being a shitmon every other gen because the meta shifted again. Items don't magically make Pokemon usable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 22:23:35 No.37296918 Report

Quoted By: >>37296929

>>37296906
>It's OU because it fits the meta shift.
Because it's Ground type? Holy shit, you really are retarded. Sandslash has very similar stats to Marowak and is in UU, and you think it has absolutely nothing to do with the item that gives Marowak 160 base attack.

>Items don't magically make Pokemon usable.
Kek, obviously they do, and the same goes for abilities. See Multiscale Dragonite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 22:26:02 No.37296929 Report

Quoted By: >>37296944

>>37296918
>Because it's Ground type?
No. Because it fits the meta shift. If your "muh item" shit actually meant anything it would have stayed OU in every gen after.

>See Multiscale Dragonite.
It was OU before it got Multiscale moron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 22:30:33 No.37296944 Report

Quoted By: >>37296953

>>37296929
>Because it fits the meta shift.
So why isn't Sandslash OU in gen 2 as well? Do my bidding, answer the fucking question.

>It was OU before it got Multiscale moron.
When? Gen 1, before items or abilities? Gen 2, before abilities? Gen 3, with both? Oh wait, no, it was gen 4, where almost every single Dragon type became OU, because Salamence and Garchomp got banned to ubers. And when Salamence got unbanned for gen 5, Dragonite was still OU why? Oh right, it's because of Multiscale.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 22:32:33 No.37296953 Report

Quoted By: >>37296972

>>37296944
>So why isn't Sandslash OU in gen 2 as well?
Because it doesn't fit the meta.

>because Salamence and Garchomp got banned to ubers.
Yes. Which had nothing to do with it getting abilities. Thanks for agreeing with me anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 22:38:02 No.37296972 Report

Quoted By: >>37296993

>>37296953
>Because it doesn't fit the meta.
Why not? Explain, peon.

Altaria was the only fully evolved Dragon who wasn't in OU or Ubers in gen 4. After gen 4, almost all of them got knocked down to UU when Salamence and Garchomp got unbanned. Dragonite didn't. Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 22:41:43 No.37296993 Report

Quoted By: >>37297026 >>37297058

>>37296972
>Why not? Explain, peon.
It fills no specific role that requires putting it on a team. You should think about why Marowak stopped being OU immediately after gen 2.

>Dragonite didn't. Why?
Because Dragonite fits the meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 22:48:33 No.37297026 Report

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>>37296993
>It fills no specific role that requires putting it on a team.
Yeah, Marowak is more used than the faster and stronger Sandslash because it gets Thick Club to double its Attack. Retard.

>b-because it fits the meta
Kek, I knew you were going to say that. Because you're a worthless insect who doesn't know anything about anything. No wonder you've been shilling LGPE for the last month and a half.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 22:58:24 No.37297058 Report

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>>37296993
Interesting that you brought up gen 3 OU.
Dugtrio ended up going into OU in gen 3 *because* of abilities and held items - it could trap with Arena Trap and guarantee KOs with Choice Band. Marowak dropped out because it didn't get a good ability, it couldn't hold any other item, and abilities like Levitate and Intimidate were common

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 23:03:49 No.37297082 Report

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>>37296476
"...Hello? Is this Faggot? Wow, my pokemon and I have grown much stronger! I love the color blue! Bye..."

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 23:04:39 No.37297086 Report

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>>37296768
>Tell me more about how Gengar and Alakazam were shit without items or abilities
Uhh... Gengar got Levitate, which negated its biggest weakness, dude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2018 23:05:58 No.37297091 Report

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>>37296451
>unboxable pikachu
That hurt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jan 2019 01:50:17 No.37297841 Report

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>>37296602
but items and abilities are stupid?

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