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Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 08:59:19 No.37304905 View View Reply Original Report

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What's the deal with gamefreak forcing kanto as the main appeal of pokemon nowadays?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:05:36 No.37304911 Report

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You wanna talk about the source material perpetuating genwunning while using a picture of a 02 Digimon protagonist?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:12:21 No.37304916 Report

Quoted By: >>37304927 >>37304961 >>37305610 >>37305704

What's the deal with nintendo forcing the mushroom kingdom as the main appeal of mario nowadays?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:14:05 No.37304921 Report

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>>37304905
What's the deal with only /vp/ hating Kanto?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:19:34 No.37304927 Report

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>>37304916
Only one 3D Mario took place in the Mushroom Kingdom. And I'm not even sure if that one counts since it was paintings with other worlds in them.
You have a point with the NSMB games though.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:28:05 No.37304942 Report

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>>37304905
Lack of talent and worldbuilding, a general misdirection of what to do next while Digimon does whatever it wants and manages to be a multi-billion dollar franchise with plenty of games and fans. Basically, they're not trying nor do they want to, animes of both be damned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:33:10 No.37304961 Report

Quoted By: >>37304978 >>37305629 >>37306090 >>37306935

>>37304916
>Sunshine takes place on an island completely separate from the Mushroom Kingdom
>Galaxy 1 and 2 take place across the universe
>3D World takes place in an alternate universe
>Odyssey takes place across the world

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:34:32 No.37304965 Report

Quoted By: >>37304971

>>37304905
bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:34:48 No.37304966 Report

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>>37304921
Most consistent, long term fans that have played past gen 1 and FRLG dislike the kanto pandering and consequently kanto. It's just /vp/ is vocal about hating anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:37:09 No.37304971 Report

Quoted By: >>37304975 >>37304976

>>37304965
it's not bait if it's true. When was the last time Gamefreak didn't insert Kanto into every nook and cranny of the series recently?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:38:47 No.37304975 Report

Quoted By: >>37304980 >>37304984 >>37304985

>>37304971
Black and White 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:39:08 No.37304976 Report

Quoted By: >>37304977 >>37305018

>>37304971
This thread has been posted under multiple guises, multiple times a day for the last god knows how long. Sometimes it pretends to be an LGPE thread, sometimes it masquerades as a Genwar thread, sometimes its just spamming the KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO meme but you have nothing new to offer, just more bait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:40:22 No.37304977 Report

Quoted By: >>37304987

>>37304976
The only bait threads that I'm seeing are the ones that gets spammed daily claiming lgpe as the best thing ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:40:26 No.37304978 Report

Quoted By: >>37304981

>>37304961
>NSMB takes place in MUSHROOM KINGDOOOOOOOOOM
>NSMB Wii takes place in MUSHROOM KINGDOOOOOOOOOM
>NSMB2 takes place in MUSHROOM KINGDOOOOOOOOOM
>NSMBU takes place in MUSHROOM KINGDOOOOOOOOOM
>Mario Odyssey shoehorns in the MUSHROOM KINGDOOOOOOOOOM and has a bunch of pandering

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:41:25 No.37304980 Report

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>>37304975
oof

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:41:30 No.37304981 Report

Quoted By: >>37304986 >>37305708

>>37304978
>NSMB is the main appeal of Mario
In what world?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:42:07 No.37304984 Report

Quoted By: >>37304991

>>37304975
>pokedex is more or less a replica of kanto
>shit like charizatd bridge exists

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:42:11 No.37304985 Report

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>>37304975
immediate follow up with kanto pokemon everywhere because people whined about them actually trying to get away from them for one game. .

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:42:16 No.37304986 Report

Quoted By: >>37305013

>>37304981
The one where it outsells the 3D titles

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:42:16 No.37304987 Report

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>>37304977
0/10

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:43:17 No.37304991 Report

Quoted By: >>37305002 >>37305003

>>37304984
>THEY REFERENCED KANTO THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO REFERENCE KANTO AT ALL IT SHOULDN'T EXIST

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:46:22 No.37305002 Report

Quoted By: >>37305006 >>37305010 >>37305079

>>37304991
they have made 3 kanto movies in a row

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:46:38 No.37305003 Report

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>>37304991
But that was the question, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:48:39 No.37305006 Report

Quoted By: >>37305016

>>37305003
a fucking bridge that happens to reference a gen 1 pokemon isn't forcing kanto you retard
>I CAN FIGHT CYNTHIA POST GAME AND LOOKER SHOWS UP IN MY HOUSE WHY ARE THEY FORCING SINNOOOOOOOOH IN EVERY GAME WAAAAH

>>37305002
and they made far more money than any of the gen 5 and 6 movies so clearly it's working out for them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:51:34 No.37305010 Report

Quoted By: >>37305016

>>37305002
Power of us isn't set in Kanto and the main characters mostly have johtomons. The major legendaries are Zerarora and Lugia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:53:27 No.37305013 Report

Quoted By: >>37305021

>>37304986
Does Nintendo advertise the NSMB games with Mushroom Kingdom as a selling point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:54:04 No.37305016 Report

Quoted By: >>37305023 >>37305024

>>37305006
so at the end of the day we should all be fine with the kanto pandering because it's making gamefreak more money?

>>37305010
you say that and the main star is eevee a kantomon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:54:38 No.37305018 Report

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>>37304976
>how could anyone be sick of one gen getting constant preferential treatment to an extremely intrusive degree, must be bait
This is your brain on KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:56:15 No.37305021 Report

Quoted By: >>37305097

>>37305013
Does Game Freak advertise USUM with Kanto as a selling point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:57:28 No.37305023 Report

Quoted By: >>37305033

>>37305016
>you say that and the main star is eevee a kantomon
who, as of gen IV evolves into less kantomons than it does mons from other regions

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 09:58:14 No.37305024 Report

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>>37305016
>so at the end of the day we should all be fine with the kanto pandering because it's making gamefreak more money?
Yes because clearly that's what more people are liking. I'm sorry no one cares about your Sinnoh shitmons anon. Oh, wait, maybe they do, because I Choose You inexplicably had main characters that had Piplup and Lucario as their main Pokemon, but that doesn't count as pandering because it's the generation you grew up with, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:03:12 No.37305033 Report

Quoted By: >>37305046

>>37305023
eevee may evolve into whatever the current flavor gamefreak wants to force upon the fans. But with letsgo e and p it's clear they don't really give a crap about any of them besides eevee itself. Not like you can evolve the starter eevee to anything else. Not like any of the other eeveelutions got some unique z move.
>>37305024
Nobody cares about this series progressing in general anymore. expect more remakes of kanto because that's what sells and we must accept is how pokemon is going to continue until we all die.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:04:41 No.37305039 Report

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Is OP trying to be ironic by posting a picture of the most pander season of Digimon (Adventure)?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:06:13 No.37305042 Report

Quoted By: >>37305047 >>37305061

>>37305024
>Everyone tired of Kanto is a Sinnoh-fetus

Maybe people want Gens that have identities outside of jerking off the originals and maybe the usual shillmon.
At least Gen 6 gave Megas to stuff outside of Lucario and the starters- you'd have to scrub a good 15-20% of Gen 7 perks to get the Kanto jizz off of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:07:07 No.37305046 Report

Quoted By: >>37305051 >>37305055

>>37305033
>because that's what sells and we must accept is how pokemon is going to continue until we all die.
lbut lgpe sold like shit even oras outsold frlg

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:07:13 No.37305047 Report

Quoted By: >>37305069 >>37305085

>>37305042
>Maybe people want Gens that have identities outside of jerking off the originals
Except they do. Stop parroting what you read from a meme post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:07:41 No.37305049 Report

Quoted By: >>37305053 >>37305086 >>37305193

>>37305024
As for piplup and lucario their inclusions in that movie are irrelevant they could've literally have used any pokemon to suit some character of the movie. Meanwhile the selling point of the movie was ho-oh a kantomon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:08:14 No.37305051 Report

Quoted By: >>37305054 >>37308062

>>37305046
>lbut lgpe sold like shit
then why did it have a higher attachment rate than ORAS?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:09:15 No.37305053 Report

Quoted By: >>37305057 >>37305062

>>37305049
>ho-oh
>a kantomon

Yup. That's it. Sinnohfetuses have gone full retard. That's all folks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:09:15 No.37305054 Report

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>>37305051
Because ORAS is absolute gutter trash pandering to the fans of the all time worst generation. The people who bought it hoping hoenn would be improved were sadly disappointed and the only people that kept it are delusional hoennbabs

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:09:33 No.37305055 Report

Quoted By: >>37305058

>>37305046
in japan lgpe was a flop pfhahaha worst selling pokemon main game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:10:17 No.37305057 Report

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>>37305053
Technically Ho-oh was introduced in the first episode of the kanto anime, so if you really want to reach you could say that thanks to that technicality it's a kanto mon. But as far as gameplay goes it isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:10:24 No.37305058 Report

Quoted By: >>37305063

>>37305055
>in japan lgpe was a flop
Then why did it outsell everything that came before it except for Splatoon 2?

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:12:30 No.37305061 Report

Quoted By: >>37305080 >>37305085

>>37305042
But if it's jerking off Sinnoh, it's suddenly perfectly fine and it's full of identity, right?

You underagefags are such enormous hypocritical retards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:12:31 No.37305062 Report

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>>37305053
>showcased in the anime 1st episode of the kanto series
>Y-your just a sinnohfetus
Cope your series only believes kanto matters now. Mewtwo is getting another movie. Pikachu and kanto is getting a live action movie.
The next games will be kanto.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:12:39 No.37305063 Report

Quoted By: >>37305074

>>37305058
it didn't outsell nothing , even usum sold more, delusional lgpefag

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:15:15 No.37305069 Report

Quoted By: >>37305077

>>37305047
Ah sure, nothing screams identity like having more kanto pokemon then their own fucking regional ones available like the past two gens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:15:42 No.37305074 Report

Quoted By: >>37305107

>>37305063
>it didn't outsell nothing
Except for BOTW? And Odyssey? Wow I guess those were flops.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:16:44 No.37305077 Report

Quoted By: >>37305106

>>37305069
>generation that had the second highest number of pokemon available has more pokemon

wow call the presses

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:16:58 No.37305079 Report

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Ironically it's the sheer number of new Pokemon that means Kantomons - and a select few from other dexes - tend to take center stage. Gen 1 mons are mostly household names at this point whereas later additions are alot more easily forgotten. It wouldn't make sense to keep recycling shitmons from hoenn, sinnoh etc because - save for things like starters, legendaries and certain shillmons like Lucario - no one gives a shit about them.

>>37305002
TPCi=/=GameFreak & Nintendo. The people in control of the anime and the movies are not the same as the ones in control of the games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:17:48 No.37305080 Report

Quoted By: >>37305084

>>37305061
>one reference to a sinnoh mon
>jerking it off

I'm not even a sinnohfag but what??

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:18:41 No.37305084 Report

Quoted By: >>37305094 >>37305654 >>37306697 >>37308003

>>37305080
>one

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:19:08 No.37305085 Report

Quoted By: >>37305092 >>37305099

>>37305047
>>37305061

Please tell about those Gen 2-6 Aloan forms, Anon.

Keep in mind I'm not bitching about just lolKanto here. The giant Lucario statue on top of 3 gens of madness was silly, Cynthia showing up in later games is half and half. Older Red and Green was a nice change of pace, but this is a game with a grand total of well over 60 gym leaders+ E4, and god knows how many pokemon that have steady followings that isn't ironic shit like Luvdisc.

Tell me that Mewtwo isn't getting another toy to play with next Gen. Or we won't get Bulba/Squirt/Char five steps after starting the next game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:19:37 No.37305086 Report

Quoted By: >>37305109

>>37305049
>As for piplup and lucario their inclusions in that movie are irrelevant
hahahahaha are you fucking dense? Piplup and Lucario are some of the most heavily shilled Pokemon to ever exist outside of Gen 1. Their inclusion is not irrelevant, it was a very deliberate attempt to draw in their fans.
>Meanwhile the selling point of the movie was ho-oh a kantomon
ok you are dense

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:21:25 No.37305092 Report

Quoted By: >>37305147

>>37305085
>Please tell about those Gen 2-6 Aloan forms, Anon.
Explain how referencing gen 2-6 Pokemon magically gives the game more identity than only referencing gen 1 Pokemon. I'll wait.

This sounds less like being mad about identity and more about you just being pissy that your favorite generation didn't get referenced and using ""identity"" as a nonsensical excuse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:21:34 No.37305094 Report

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>>37305084
keep being triggered by gf pandering to anyone besides kanto. i'm sure if you scream and cry enough they'll do LG charmander and squirtle instead of a new region!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:22:00 No.37305097 Report

Quoted By: >>37305101

>>37305021
>Alolan forms
Yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:22:47 No.37305099 Report

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>>37305085
Sun and Moon came out to coincide with Pokemons 20th anniversary and the anniversary of kanto. It was less Kanto pandering and more a deliberate tribute. That's why only Kanto pokemon got Alola forms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:23:26 No.37305101 Report

Quoted By: >>37305114

>>37305097
>new forms where the entire point is that they weren't in kanto
>using kanto as a selling point

epic

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:23:37 No.37305103 Report

Quoted By: >>37305120 >>37305174

>>37304905
because they are run out ideas, thank god digimon and yokai watch exist they are 1000 times better

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:24:08 No.37305106 Report

Quoted By: >>37305116

>>37305077
We were talking about identity though, frame it as you want but the distribution of new games having more gen 1 mons than new ones doesn't help your case. Keep moving goalposts though I'm sure you'll be able to prove OLD OVER NEW the gens actually have identity

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:24:15 No.37305107 Report

Quoted By: >>37305116 >>37305123

>>37305074
No it didn't lmao
Even smash outsold it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:25:19 No.37305109 Report

Quoted By: >>37305154

>>37305086
>ho-oh was already in concept gen one
>it was only in the gen 2 games and that one anime episode
>your'e dense it's in no way a kantomon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:26:25 No.37305114 Report

Quoted By: >>37305119

>>37305101
>Check out these pokemon from Kanto but now they're different
>only Kanto pokemon get this treatment

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:26:58 No.37305116 Report

Quoted By: >>37305122 >>37305129 >>37305155

>>37305106
>We were talking about identity though
If this were really about identity than gen 1 Pokemon specifically would be irrelevant and we would be talking about ALL the previous generation Pokemon outnumbering new Pokemon.

>>37305107
>No it didn't lmao
Yes it did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:27:37 No.37305118 Report

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They always shill KANTO, but they never know what KANTO and Gen1 was loved and is nostalgic.
Why they have produced a bunch of shitty phone games instead of console games which can endure to play for a long time?
They have only wasted Gen1.
T. Shinoh and Kalosfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:28:00 No.37305119 Report

Quoted By: >>37305124

>>37305114
>but now they're different
so it's not using Kanto as a selling point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:28:16 No.37305120 Report

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>>37305103
yokai watch and digimon have too many clones of the most popular monsters of their respective series to ever be good.
Pokemon has the same problem with having 10+ pikachus running around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:28:47 No.37305122 Report

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>>37305116
botw dold 11 million

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:30:43 No.37305123 Report

Quoted By: >>37305126 >>37305133

>>37305107
smash killed lgpe ahahah

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:31:07 No.37305124 Report

Quoted By: >>37305130

>>37305119
I really hope you're pretending to be retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:31:20 No.37305126 Report

Quoted By: >>37305221

>>37305123
>[game with pokemon in it] killed [pokemon game]

Yeah I'm sure Game Freak is quaking in their boots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:31:38 No.37305129 Report

Quoted By: >>37305139 >>37305265

>>37305116
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20181218005282/en/Nintendo-Switch-Fastest-Selling-Video-Game-System-Generation

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:32:21 No.37305130 Report

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>>37305124
I hope the same of you anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:34:12 No.37305133 Report

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>>37305123
smash only perpetuates the kanto shilling

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:36:01 No.37305139 Report

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>>37305129
pathetic sales

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:39:44 No.37305147 Report

Quoted By: >>37305179

>>37305092
>Explain how referencing gen 2-6 Pokemon magically gives the game more identity than only referencing gen 1 Pokemon.

It's not about excluding gen 1, it's about actually spreading the feature out so every old gen got something to mess around with.

>This sounds less like being mad about identity and more about you just being pissy that your favorite generation didn't get referenced and using ""identity"" as a nonsensical excuse.

Have you even been reading? I don't care what gets referenced, giving shit out to more than just the usual shillmons regardless of generations would shut me up. If Megas stopped at the starters and the usual suspects I'd bitch about that too, because giving one of your defining perks of a generation to a small pool of pokemon muddles your identity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:41:19 No.37305154 Report

Quoted By: >>37305171

>>37305109
Ho-oh featured in the anime because Gold and Silver were about to to hit Japan at the time. Did you think they made the games and the show together and released both at the same time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:41:43 No.37305155 Report

Quoted By: >>37305179

>>37305116
Gen 1 pokemon were mentioned specifically because they're the only ones to surpass the regional mon numbers when sampling distribution by generation and also because gen 1 pandering in particular is considered one of the main reasons for gen 6 and 7's lack of identity.
The point is to show how it focuses more on kanto nostalgia then its actual setting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:46:22 No.37305171 Report

Quoted By: >>37305193

>>37305154
No, but how important do you think it is for a pokemon to be showcased prior to it's generation?
Ho-oh is a relatively unpopular pokemon from an unpopular generation. Giving it a movie was a stupid idea in the first place. Which is why they are making a mewtwo movie because jhoto shilling isn't nearly as lucrative as kantoshilling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:47:02 No.37305174 Report

Quoted By: >>37305235 >>37306143

>>37305103
>1000 times better
Lol no.
Digimon is going full steam ahead with Adventure pandering.
We have had 3 games in less than a fucking decade where your starter is Agumon and the next game is fucking Agumon again.
Not to mention the anime department is fixated on Adventure and when it's not, you bet your ass Agumon or Omegamon will be in the anime somehow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:50:25 No.37305179 Report

Quoted By: >>37306683

>>37305147
>It's not about excluding gen 1, it's about actually spreading the feature out so every old gen got something to mess around with.
And this gives the game more identity how exactly?

>I don't care what gets referenced
Clearly you do since you're bitching about a higher proportion of the old Pokemon being gen 1 despite it not mattering at all.

>>37305155
>they're the only ones to surpass the regional mon numbers
So? If they redistributed those to other generations there would STILL be more old Pokemon than new Pokemon total. Identity has nothing to do with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 10:57:08 No.37305193 Report

Quoted By: >>37305217

>>37305171
What are you trying to say at this point? We've gone from:
>>37305049
>Meanwhile the selling point of the movie was ho-oh a kantomon
to:
>>37305171
>Ho-oh is a relatively unpopular pokemon from an unpopular generation.
>Giving it a movie was a stupid idea in the first place. >Which is why they are making a mewtwo movie because jhoto shilling isn't nearly as lucrative as kantoshilling.
You are all correlating way to many things in a really cynical way. Pokemon: I Choose You! was a soft reboot to celebrate 20 years since the series launched. It's an alternate retelling based on Ash choosing to follow Ho-oh in the first episode instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 11:05:33 No.37305217 Report

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>>37305193
those are all me. Im just trying to say pokemon sucks. why do i still like this terrible series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 11:07:00 No.37305221 Report

Quoted By: >>37305259

>>37305126
Yes Anon, people only bought Smash for Pokemon, it clearly was the sole reason it sold, every other franchise is just fodder that nobody cares about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 11:11:35 No.37305235 Report

Quoted By: >>37307414

>>37305174
> We have had 3 games in less than a fucking decade where your starter is Agumon and the next game is fucking Agumon again.
That's not entirely true, Cyber Sleuth at best gives you old Digimon but none of them iconic except maybe Palmon, Next Order gives you Omnimon in a CUTSCENE but when you start the game your real starter can be fucking anything, and with Hacker's Memory its again like Cyber Sleuth, except with Tentomon, most likely the other reason you get Agumon in Survive is to showcase branching evolutions since the only Digimon with a larger line is Veemon. You never see special treatment of 01 Digimon overall in Habu's games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 11:18:07 No.37305252 Report

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>>37304921
It's not about hating kanto, it's about hating that kanto is consistently treated as the only thing that matters. No new idea or region can come to pass without being so heavily tied to kanto that, if all the kanto content were removed, the idea or region would be mostly nonexistent.

I don't hate kanto, I just like johto, hoenn, sinnoh, and unova. I can't say I like kalos or alola, though, because their identity is just 'remember kanto lol?' They have nothing about them to like. That's the real source of hate: The growing homogeny. The fact that everything pokemon-based is becoming a pepperidge farm commercial at a more aggressive rate every year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 11:20:31 No.37305259 Report

Quoted By: >>37305269

>>37305221
Yes Anon, Pokemon doesn't contribute to Smash's sales, all those millions of people who recognize one of the most popular franchises on the planet definitely weren't influenced to buy a game where Pokemon make up almost 1/7 of the game's roster

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 11:22:01 No.37305265 Report

Quoted By: >>37305281

>>37305129
>these lgpe sales

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 11:23:17 No.37305269 Report

Quoted By: >>37305275

>>37305259
>people bought smash because of pokemon

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 11:24:17 No.37305275 Report

Quoted By: >>37305309

>>37305269
>no one bought smash because of pokemon

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 11:27:14 No.37305281 Report

Quoted By: >>37305368

>>37305265
in japan the game is a failure, nobody is selling it , the state of lgpe

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 11:35:43 No.37305309 Report

Quoted By: >>37305364

>>37305275
That's it! All smash sales are because pokemon. Sakurai should kiss Masuda. Smash is finished lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 11:51:47 No.37305346 Report

Quoted By:

>>37304905
Nostalgia runs on a 20 year cycle
2010s was the decade of 90s nostalgia

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 12:03:30 No.37305364 Report

Quoted By: >>37305381

>>37305309
What was said
>"some people probably bought smash because of Pokemon"
What you somehow heard
>the only reason anyone bought a copy of smash was because they included Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 12:05:39 No.37305368 Report

Quoted By:

>>37305281
>nobody is selling it
wat?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 12:12:51 No.37305381 Report

Quoted By: >>37305398

>>37305364
Not him, but that's still likely gonna be a small number. Like really small because of LGPE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 12:22:26 No.37305398 Report

Quoted By: >>37305462

>>37305381
>really small because of LGPE.
What does that have to do with people getting Smash?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 12:47:21 No.37305462 Report

Quoted By: >>37305475 >>37305493

>>37305398
Not much. But anyone who thought LGPE would outsell Smash is a fool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 12:52:17 No.37305475 Report

Quoted By: >>37305498

>>37305462
Except for USUM, every 3DS game outsold Smash 3DS

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 12:57:16 No.37305493 Report

Quoted By: >>37305609

>>37305462
I don't think even one person in this thread has said, or even implied, that LGPE was going to outsell smash. Did you just go into autopilot beause you saw smash and LGPE mentioned near each other? Why even bother replying lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 12:58:57 No.37305498 Report

Quoted By: >>37305503

>>37305475
Smash is not single player handheld game. They released it for 3DS as well because the Wii U was an absolute trainwreck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 13:00:17 No.37305503 Report

Quoted By: >>37305564

>>37305498
No Smash has ever outsold the pokemon series until Ultimate

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 13:17:59 No.37305564 Report

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>>37305503
The switch marks the first time both smash and pokemon have released on a main console. It's also the first time a Pokemon game has been sold for the same price as a mainline console title.

Nintendo DS
>154m units sold
Gameboy/GBC
>118m units sold
Wii
>101m units sold
Gameboy Advance
>81m units sold
N64
>32m units sold
Gamecube
>21m units sold
Wii U
>13m units sold

Smash is a game you can share; only one of you needs to own it for you all to play without restrictions where as Pokemon has always required each person to have their own copy. Add to that the overwhelming disparity between the handheld base and the main console base and the depressing thing is that Pokemon should have been selling alot fucking more than it did on the DS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 13:22:59 No.37305583 Report

Quoted By: >>37305606

>>37304905
>What's the deal with gamefreak forcing kanto as the main appeal of pokemon nowadays?

Kanto is the face of the series. It introduced all of the most basic mechanics to the series that remained unchanged to this day.

Its pokemon and human characters are still the most memorable and iconic to the series thanks to the anime.

What's the chance of some random person on the street knowing the name of Charizard vs Emboar?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 13:27:06 No.37305603 Report

Quoted By:

>>3730556
Forgot to add the 73mil 3DS units also.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 13:28:12 No.37305606 Report

Quoted By:

>>37305583
>The generation they keep pushing is the most well known
Who would have guessed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 13:29:27 No.37305609 Report

Quoted By:

>>37305493
Why even bother to have this many threads on it when just in the past week I've seen like 5 threads bragging Smash outsold LGPE?? There's next to nothing to even care about.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 13:29:35 No.37305610 Report

Quoted By: >>37307332

>>37304916
What's the deal with nintendo forcing hyrule as the main appeal of zelda nowadays?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 13:35:44 No.37305629 Report

Quoted By: >>37305640

>>37304961
And literally every Pokemon game besides Gen 1 and its remakes takes place somewhere other than Kanto. What's your point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 13:37:33 No.37305635 Report

Quoted By:

>>37304980
>post-Kanto babbys are now so sensitive that simply mentioning the name of a Gen 1 Pokemon triggers them
Yeesh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 13:39:03 No.37305640 Report

Quoted By: >>37305643

>>37305629
>Gen 1 - Kanto
>Gen 2 - Johto and Kanto
>Gen 3 - FRLG
>Gen 4 - HGSS
>Gen 6 - Mewtwo and Charizard get two megas, you're given a Kanto starter in story
>Gen 7 - Alolan forms, Red and Blue return

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 13:41:02 No.37305643 Report

Quoted By: >>37305668

>>37305640
>GameFreak remakes games in chronological order
>WAHHHH, WHY SO MUCH KANTO!?
Idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 13:45:50 No.37305654 Report

Quoted By:

>>37305084
I honestly don't know why Silvally isn't considered a form change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 13:53:05 No.37305667 Report

Quoted By:

I'm fine with kanto pandering but hate how their handling it. Because XY+SM was so focused on kanto most people barely even remeber them,it's in your face instead of being subtle which is better pandering than every NPC talking about kanto,If they toned it down a fair amount and gave a small amount to other gens it would be fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 13:53:32 No.37305668 Report

Quoted By: >>37305679

>>37305643
>Kanto shilling in every Gen but 5
Keep "pretending" to be retarded tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 13:56:59 No.37305679 Report

Quoted By: >>37305736

>>37305668
gen 5 is a pretty heavy kanto shilling though, since the middle of the region is a giant ring and most of unovas pokedex is a copy of kantos

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 14:04:12 No.37305704 Report

Quoted By: >>37305707

>>37304916
Thats a valid question. All the nostalgia-pandering mario games like NSMB, 3D World, and 3D Land are trash

>>37304921
I don't hate kanto, I just hate the constant overbearing kanto pandering. Its like all the rehash NSMB games retreading 1-1 and 1-2 over and over

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 14:05:13 No.37305707 Report

Quoted By: >>37305718

>>37305704
>3D World
>trash
What are you basing this on

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 14:05:48 No.37305708 Report

Quoted By:

>>37304981
Weve had more nsmb/land/world titles over the past decade than actual new original mario games

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 14:07:36 No.37305718 Report

Quoted By: >>37305728

>>37305707
Reality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 14:09:42 No.37305728 Report

Quoted By:

>>37305718
Did you actually play 3D World

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 14:12:16 No.37305736 Report

Quoted By: >>37306149 >>37306571 >>37306783

>>37305679
>most of unovas pokedex is a copy of kantos
Real talk, why do we say "most" when it's only like, a dozen or so that are copies?

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 16:01:21 No.37306090 Report

Quoted By: >>37306157

>>37304961
3D World's "alternative universe" looks suspiciously like the mushroom kingdoooooooooooom

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 16:19:19 No.37306143 Report

Quoted By: >>37307414

>>37305174
>Digimon is going full steam ahead with Adventure pandering.
only in the anime. the games do their own thing.
>We have had 3 games in less than a fucking decade where your starter is Agumon and the next game is fucking Agumon again.
if every single game took place in ODAAAIBAAAAA and made constant, blatant references to adventure, then you could compare it to pokemon's shilling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 16:21:16 No.37306149 Report

Quoted By:

>>37305736
genwunners keep trying to do mental gymnastics to claim that unova pandered to them, even though we all remember them refusing to buy gen 5 because it didn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 16:22:42 No.37306157 Report

Quoted By:

>>37306090
No it does not

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 17:27:21 No.37306466 Report

Quoted By:

>>37304905
>nowadays

>>37304921
I don't hate Kanto, but I hate Kanto pandering, particularly when Kanto remakes decide to just remake the same region from Gen I with barely any changes.

It's right next to Johto. Where are the Johto Pokemon? Why doesn't Team Rocket use their battle theme from GSC? Why not make an Elite Four battle theme?

It feels like they keep trying to recreate a game in a time capsule or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 17:45:05 No.37306571 Report

Quoted By: >>37306606

>>37305736
When you factor in all the "obligatory rehashmons" that every gen has, it's probably like a 3rd or a little less than half the dex. However, the other half are totally solid originals so it's still my favorite dex.
Of course, me saying this is going to be met by some angry faggot telling me to list out all rehashes, and then I'll do so, and then we'll start having a shitty sophistic argument splitting hairs over what is/isn't a rehash, with people unironically saying Wubat isn't a Zubat rehash or that Sawk/Throh aren't Hitmon rehashes.

Again, I like the unova dex, but it definitely had a ton of rehashes. Still much better than the later gens where we only get like 60-70 new mons, half of those are obligatory rehashes like regional rodent/bird/bug/pikaclone/etc and the other half are all legendaries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 17:51:21 No.37306606 Report

Quoted By: >>37306637

>>37306571
unova's dex is very divisive the good mons it has are Amazing and the bad mons are utter shit
not to mention the starting mons are pretty shit and you only get the good ones after lenora.
first impressions are everything and I really disliked unova at first. they make up for this in 2 though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 17:56:06 No.37306637 Report

Quoted By:

>>37306606
Yeah. It felt like we got a standard number of quality new mons, but because they also wanted to make the game 100% new mons only, they also needed a bunch of other fillermons to pad it out. Which I can someone respect and wanting it to be 100% original was a ballsy move, but we could've done without wubat, roggenrolla, lmao3monkey, etc.

I also wouldn't have minded the new designs if they didn't use them in the same way. Nobody hates tentacool's or zubat's design. They just hate constantly running into them every step they take in a cave or while surfing. Doing the exact same thing with a new sprite doesn't actually address the issue people had.
But at least Unova was better about not having its generic regional rodent on literally every route like previous games did with rattata/zigzagoon/bidoof

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 18:02:05 No.37306683 Report

Quoted By:

>>37305179
>Clearly you do since you're bitching about a higher proportion of the old Pokemon being gen 1 despite it not mattering at all.

Noone should argue with somebody as narrow minded and as stupid as you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 18:03:53 No.37306697 Report

Quoted By: >>37307369

>>37305084
"most powerful Pokémon of Alola"
>untiered

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 18:10:06 No.37306746 Report

Quoted By: >>37306766

>>37304905
>Nowadays
Its been there since Gen 4 (I think Gen 3 attempted to shill Johto). There are so many references in each generation to Kanto its not even funny. Its just that nowadays they stopped being subtle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 18:12:44 No.37306766 Report

Quoted By: >>37306839

>>37306746
>I think Gen 3 attempted to shill Johto
Not really, unless you count the GC games where they acted as the only means of obtaining those pokemon until the remakes and emerald.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 18:15:43 No.37306783 Report

Quoted By: >>37306799

>>37305736
You're talking about a dozen evolutionary lines, right? There's no way you honestly believe only 12 Pokemon are rehashes of the original 151.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 18:18:17 No.37306799 Report

Quoted By: >>37307635

>>37306783
After removing the usual suspects like bug, rodent etc it is a pretty small amount around that number.
Usually people have to make huge stretches to justify why any more than that are clones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 18:23:27 No.37306839 Report

Quoted By: >>37306891

>>37306766
Even that wasn't really shilling johtomons. You didn't really get that it was a way for getting the unreleased johtomons until partway through the game when you realize every shadow pokemon is johto.

The only true-blue shilling in Gen 3 was XD, which was literally advertised as "hey guys you can finally get a legitimate way of capturing Lugia, see him on the cover right here!?"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 18:28:29 No.37306873 Report

Quoted By: >>37306890

I don't know. Why is the most recognizable generation of Pokemon is the one that gets referenced the most?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 18:30:35 No.37306890 Report

Quoted By: >>37306900 >>37307310

>>37306873
Maybe if they referenced the other gens they'd be more recognizable

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 18:30:58 No.37306891 Report

Quoted By: >>37307053

>>37306839
>You didn't really get that it was a way for getting the unreleased johtomons until partway through the game when you realize every shadow pokemon is johto.
>legendary beasts on the cover
>starters are Umbreon and Espeon
>the first batch of Pokemon you get are Quagsire, Flaafy, Skiploom, and a few others
>the game gives you a Johto starter early on
I think it was obvious to everyone that the Johto Pokemon were the main selling point from the first hour.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 18:32:18 No.37306900 Report

Quoted By:

>>37306890
They do, just not as frequently as Kanto.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 18:34:55 No.37306920 Report

Quoted By:

>>37304905
A bunch of gen x ers and millenials going through a midlife crisis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 18:37:55 No.37306935 Report

Quoted By: >>37307232

>>37304961
>SMW takes place in Dinosaur Land
>SML takes place is Sarasaland
>SMB2 takes place in a dream
>SMB3 takes place in everywhere including HELL

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 18:54:10 No.37307053 Report

Quoted By:

>>37306891
Groudon and Kyogre were the biggest things on the front cover

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 19:26:17 No.37307232 Report

Quoted By: >>37308169

>>37306935
>RS takes place in Hoenn
>DP takes place in Sinnoh
>BW takes place in Unova
>BW2 takes place in Unova again

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 19:43:03 No.37307310 Report

Quoted By: >>37307317 >>37307570

>>37306890
>wHy DoEs GaMeFrEAk oNlY rEfeREnCe GeN 1???? DAE ThINk LE IdENtITy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 19:45:13 No.37307317 Report

Quoted By: >>37307336

>>37307310
Where was it said GameFreak only references Gen 1?

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 19:45:36 No.37307320 Report

Quoted By:

How could they do this bros

How could they make Kukui's wife a fucking gen 1 character

This gen 1 pandering is getting out of control, they really need to start referencing other generations

I too read that Spongebob post and replied to it 5 times

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 19:48:04 No.37307329 Report

Quoted By:

Seriously, what the fuck?

How do they keep shoving this gen 1 shit everywhere?

A gen 1 elite four member? Seriously?

They really need to do other things, because if they reference the gen I grew up instead of gen 1, then suddenly the region will have I D E N T I T Y

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 19:48:32 No.37307332 Report

Quoted By:

>>37305610
What's the deal with nintendo forcing inkopolis as the main appeal of splatoon nowadays?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 19:49:18 No.37307336 Report

Quoted By: >>37307359 >>37307362

>>37307317
>THEY NEED TO REFERENCE OTHER GENS BROS
>WTF BRO I NEVER SAID THEY DON'T REFERENCE OTHER GENS

Make up your mind.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 19:53:24 No.37307354 Report

Quoted By:

Why is Game Freak so obsessed with KANTOOOOOOOOOOO?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 19:54:27 No.37307359 Report

Quoted By:

>>37307336
Yes, they should give other gens more references and call backs vs 6 out of 7 gens of Kanto and Gen 1 pandering

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 19:55:00 No.37307362 Report

Quoted By: >>37307378

>>37307336
Says the person who can't even read.
The problem people have is that Kanto is being placed above everything else so while there are references to other generations Kanto dwarves them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 19:56:51 No.37307369 Report

Quoted By: >>37307375

>>37306697
>gUyS lOoKoUt!! SiLvAlLy Is So sTrOnG iT nEeDeD tO bE pReEvOlVeD iN a HeLmEt MeWtWo To HoLd BaCk ItS pOwEr!!
>it's shit in the braindead mess that is the meta
Bravo, Gamefreak. Maybe even they realized that ugly chimera was unmarketable so they didn't bother to make him good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 19:57:20 No.37307373 Report

Quoted By: >>37307416 >>37307470

Why can't we just not have any callbacks AT ALL?
Remember when RS had next-to-none and it ended up selling fine and proved to GameFreak that Pokemon isn't dead?
What the fuck happened to that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 19:57:54 No.37307375 Report

Quoted By:

>>37307369
*Mewtwo helmet
but you get the point

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 19:58:09 No.37307378 Report

Quoted By: >>37307421

>>37307362
>Says the person who can't even read.
I can read fine. You're just moving goalposts.

>WTF BROS THEY NEED TO REFERENCE OTHER GENERATIONS
>N-NO I MEANT THEY NEED TO REFERENCE OTHER GENERATIONS -MORE-, THE LUCARIO STATUE, THE RIVAL WHO HAS A BOOTLEG PLOT RELEVANT ARCEUS, AND THE ROTOM ON YOUR BOTTOM SCREEN THE ENTIRE GAME AREN'T ENOUGH

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 20:01:27 No.37307393 Report

Quoted By: >>37308598

>>37304911
Thing is, nobody liked 02 and they actually learned and gave us the masterpiece that is Tamers. Doubt GF will do the same with gen 8.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 20:04:46 No.37307414 Report

Quoted By: >>37307431

>>37305235
Cannot you not read you stupid nigger? I said 3, not the last three. I'm talking n0, Decode, Redigitize. But your starters in HaMe/CS were essentially all mons that were shown in Adventureverse. Not to mention several of the characters have Adventure mons, and we even get Agumon and Gabumon with their original VAs (oh which n0 also had this feature if you wanted).

>>37306143
You mean like how Odaiba was in CS/HaMe and some of the most important late game events happen there? Nice job proving yourself as a retarded shill.

Good God Digimonfags are pathetic. Enjoy the eternal pandering that is Adventure. Konaka will never get his Tamers sequel. And Digimon anime will only be Adventure after the success of Tri and failure of XW/Appmon and the next games will still have max Adventure pandering just like CS had.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 20:04:50 No.37307416 Report

Quoted By: >>37307470 >>37308235

>>37307373
Gen winners complained

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 20:05:05 No.37307421 Report

Quoted By: >>37307460

>>37307378
>MUH LUCARIO STATUE
Lucario is an exception and you goddamn know it, they've never went "SINNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH" when pandering to that abomination, they've only went "LUCARIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO".
>MUH SILVALLY
What better way to combat the at-the-time unknown Ultra Beasts, at least lore-wise, than the most powerful known Pokemon lore-wise?
>MUH ROTOMDEX
What, do you want them to make an entirely new Pokemon who has Rotom's exact gimmick just so you can complain they made a shitty new Pokemon precisely to utilize the Pokedex Gimmick instead of use an existing Pokemon? It's not like Rotom's even in the fucking region anyway, Rotomdex is the only one in Alola and you can't even fucking battle with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 20:06:56 No.37307431 Report

Quoted By: >>37307455

>>37307414
>success of Tri
>hated to such an extent that they had to rectify it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 20:10:44 No.37307455 Report

Quoted By: >>37307462 >>37307509

>>37307431
It doesn't matter what you said it had multiple screenings and was the number one selling anime that wasn't DBS or MHA

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 20:11:45 No.37307460 Report

Quoted By:

>>37307421
>Lucario is an exception and you goddamn know it
If Lucario is an exception then Mewtwo, Eevee, and the gen 1 starters are also exceptions.

>What better way to combat the at-the-time unknown Ultra Beasts
I can make similar excuses for the gen 1 """pandering."""

What better way to show off regional differences and juxtapose old and new designs than to use the oldest Pokemon everyone is guaranteed to recognize?
What better way to signify the anniversary of the franchise than by having the protagonist come from Kanto and having a grown up Red/Blue?
What better way to make the series simpler for a casual audience than to go back to Kanto?

Stop complaining about """pandering""" if you're just going to ignore every time they ""pander"" to other generations, Sinnohfetus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 20:12:26 No.37307462 Report

Quoted By: >>37307509 >>37307584

>>37307455
*OVAs
It is a success and Toei is happy that there's finally a money making formula to Digimon, it's Adventureverse and only that and strictly that. You will never get another Digimon anime that isn't Adventureverse. Please learn to deal with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 20:13:51 No.37307470 Report

Quoted By:

>>37307373
>>37307416
If anything, the real genwunners dropped off after Gotta Catch Ya Later! because everyone knows the series isn't what it is without Brock and Misty. Didn't even matter that Brock stayed with Ash up until Sinnoh, genwunners closed the book and called the story complete right then and there.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 20:21:29 No.37307509 Report

Quoted By: >>37307667

>>37307455
>>37307462
>You will never get another Digimon anime that isn't Adventureverse. Please learn to deal with it.
>Terriermon is so well-liked by fans that he is the only non-adventureverse mon that got merch from the "I Love (Digimon)" series
Absolutely btfo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 20:37:51 No.37307570 Report

Quoted By: >>37307599

>>37307310
Is this the whole list you have for Gen IV shilling?If so that's very low for what 4 different Gens being represented in that image.
I mean, do Hat-Pikachu and Cyrus even count, if every single other Gen has the same - ang Gen I even more, since Cyrus is now part of Team Rocket.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 20:40:06 No.37307581 Report

Quoted By: >>37307608

>they referenced another gen thats not kanto a few times so it’s fine if we have FIVE (5) games that either are in kanto or let you go to it and if you have any problem with that then you are a SEETHING GENWUN HATING ZOOMER LMAAAOOOOO JUST LMAOOOOO

I don’t even dislike kanto but this shit where if you’re not as excited to play the same fucking region for the 70th time in a row then you’re toxic or some shit. This is CoD black ops series level of watering down and rehashing. Also kanto or not LGEP is fucking single digit IQ babby mode and shit anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 20:40:47 No.37307584 Report

Quoted By:

>>37307462
after the shitfest that was tri, i'm glad that toei won't ruin any other seasons.
asking for another sequel from nu-toei is like asking for another remake from nu-game freak. you know it's going to be shit and an insult to the original.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 20:43:40 No.37307599 Report

Quoted By: >>37307638

>>37307570
>game freak needs to reference every generation
>n-no, that doesn't count, because they referenced every generation

autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 20:44:46 No.37307608 Report

Quoted By:

>>37307581
>NOOOOO STOP FORCING US TO GO THE MUSHROOM KINGDOOM NINTENDO REEEEEE
>WHERE'S MY DINOSAUR LAND PANDERING

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 20:49:24 No.37307635 Report

Quoted By: >>37307648

>>37306799
So after moving there goal post we still have the following undeniable clones:
Roggenrola=Geodude
Munna=Drowzee
Audino=Chansey
Timburr=Machop
Tympole=Poliwag
Throh/Sawk=Hitmonlee/Hitmonchan
Gothita=Abra
Ducklett=Psyduck
Klink=Magnemite
Trubbish=Grimer
Buffolant=Tauros

That's 25 Pokemon, without the 2 for regional rodent line, 3 for early route bird, 3 for pseudo legendaries dragon line, and 1 pika clone.

Based on species, we also have:
Elemental Equestrian: Ponyta/Blitzle
Two stage bat: Zubat/Woobat
Two stage jelly: Tentacool/Frillish
Two stage cat: Meowth/Purrloin
Bug with something on back: Paras/Dweeble
Legendary created by evil team: Mewtwo/Genesect

Yeah, I've seen people stretch and compare nearly half of the Dex to gen 1, but what's listed here is difficult to dispute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 20:51:31 No.37307638 Report

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>>37307599
I never said anything about other generations faggot, I was only talking about your picture of Gen IV pandering. Now answer the question and stop dodging an answer with meme arrows and buzzwords.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 20:53:04 No.37307648 Report

Quoted By: >>37307686

>>37307635
>Gothita=Abra
That's a stretch, the only similarity is that they're a three stage psychic type of which a few other pokemon could fall under.

Klink and Magnemite isn't much better either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 20:53:47 No.37307653 Report

Quoted By: >>37307832 >>37307930

>>37304905
People hated on gen 5 so much that GF got scared of trying to inovate and now resort to nostalgia to attract fans. Dont get me wrong, im not saying that gen 5 is a perfect gen but the excessive hate coming from normal fags (mostly) is what made GF appeal to them more with nostalgia.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 20:55:17 No.37307667 Report

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>>37307509
>beelzemon is getting another new gem figure
>dukemon and beelzemon got their own special versions of the ver.20th pendulum
>minervamon, dracomon, beelstarmon, renamon, sakuyamon, and lordknightmon all got new x-antibody designs
>tamers got a blu-ray remaster with a new cd drama, frontier is getting the same next year
>tamers got a battle spirits trading card set
>none of these are "adventureverse"
always hilarious to see game freak apologists pretend to be experts on a franchise they know nothing about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 20:58:56 No.37307686 Report

Quoted By: >>37307836

>>37307648
3 stage humanoid psychic Pokemon, with Alakazam looking masculine and Gothititelle being feminine, as if to compliment each other. They also share the same BST.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 21:21:25 No.37307763 Report

Quoted By: >>37307794

the problem isn't referencing kanto over other gens. the problem is that instead being simply used as a tongue in cheek reference for the hardcore fans it's used constantly making every game piggybacking on nostalgia instead of letting the game have it's own identity. there's nothing wrong with a little nostalgia pandering but when it's overdone on the level gamefreak does it comes off as disingenuous and just milking the nostalgia cow until it dies to stay afloat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 21:26:55 No.37307794 Report

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>>37307763
gen 6 just comes accross like an unrecognisable mush of all the other gens but doesn't capitalize on what made them good and is forgettable

and gen 7 feels less like an adventure and more like a theme park tour starring lillie's family problems and space jelly fish.

these last gens weren't bad (except gen 7's multiplayer which is horrrid thus losing any possible longevity it could have) honestly pokemon needs to stop this game a year nonsense or it will continue going through the path of mediocrity till it eventually collapses into a hiatus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 21:37:57 No.37307832 Report

Quoted By: >>37307910

>>37307653
Where are these normalfags and genwunners everyone complains about? Most people who play the games casually don't care enough to complain, let alone come here and beat the same ideas in to the ground over and over, day after day.

Genwunners left the franchise after gen 1 or gen 2. They may have picked up Pokemon go, but they've left that as well. They could give a fuck less about the series, it rarely crosses their mind at this point, just like any other fad.

Do you honestly think there are people out there who haven't collected TY Beanie Babies in 15 years on a message board complaining that they don't like the new Beanie Babies? What about Furbies? Tamagotchi? Silly Bands?

Sure, there may be a miniscule percentage of people here trolling that only played gen 1, but a majority of people here have played multiple titles across multiple generations. The "genwunners" and "casuals" are just the boogeyman, they don't exist and you're just falling for someone else's bait.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 21:38:12 No.37307836 Report

Quoted By: >>37307980

>>37307686
Alakazam doesn’t have a version counterpart tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 21:51:24 No.37307910 Report

Quoted By: >>37308486

>>37307832
>Genwunners left the franchise after gen 1 or gen 2. They may have picked up Pokemon go, but they've left that as well. They could give a fuck less about the series, it rarely crosses their mind at this point, just like any other fad.
game freak clearly hasn't gotten the memo, then, because they're acting like genwunners are their entire audience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 21:56:10 No.37307930 Report

Quoted By: >>37307947 >>37307963

>>37307653
Also it's time to kill the meme that "Gamefreak is too scared to try" and "if you didn't like Gen 5 you're to blame for the 3DS era."

Gamefreak has proven themselves incompetent at programming time and time again. There was a huge graphic overhaul when they moved from sprites to 3D models between 5&6. I'd be willing to bet that the 3DS era was so lackluster because Gamefreak is still adjusting to 3D, and Gen 8 will be rough because they have to adjust to HD. They've also proven they don't care what fans think, don't know why they would have cared about BW's reception... especially when RS faced backlash for the exact same reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 22:00:22 No.37307947 Report

Quoted By: >>37308092

>>37307930
>They've also proven they don't care what fans think, don't know why they would have cared about BW's reception
it's because game freak loves any excuse to keep expectations low and justify less effort on their part. that's why the one time they ever "listened to the fans" was when they listened to genwunners' whining over gen 5. they heard a bunch of "fans" begging them to stop trying new things, scale down their ambition and rehash the same shit forever, and it was like music to their ears.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 22:01:44 No.37307952 Report

Quoted By:

The fuck is up with Chansey in the LG?
I have one with perfect IVs and it dies OHKO every fucking time.
I play against someone with it and use fighting moves with a fighting pokemon with perfect IVs and it just shrugs it off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 22:04:29 No.37307963 Report

Quoted By: >>37307968 >>37307978

>>37307930
>Gamefreak has proven themselves incompetent at programming time and time again
nice meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 22:06:11 No.37307968 Report

Quoted By: >>37307978

>>37307963
I must have imagined triple battles being removed because GameFreak couldn't fix the framerate issues

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 22:08:17 No.37307978 Report

Quoted By:

>>37307963
>multiple Lillie models for each cutscene instead of just one they pull out
Does that sound like something someone competent would do?

>>37307968
I always assumed it was because of the additional trainer models which would make them run even worse than they did in gen 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 22:09:03 No.37307980 Report

Quoted By: >>37308518

>>37307836
That's not relevant. Throh and Sawk don't have a baby form but are still undeniably Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan. Buffolant doesn't have a female counterpart but it's undeniably a clone of Tauros. Emolga is a pikaclone but doesn't have a baby or evolution. What was the point you were trying to make?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 22:14:34 No.37308000 Report

Quoted By:

>>37304921
>only /vp/
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 22:15:36 No.37308003 Report

Quoted By: >>37308177

>>37305084
i'm retarded how is this sinnoh

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 22:16:48 No.37308007 Report

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>>37304905
"Oh, we have a few years before we release the new gen? How about we milk the Boomers some more with more Kanto freshness?"
"That's a great idea, Donald."

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 22:24:47 No.37308057 Report

Quoted By: >>37308068 >>37308139

>>37304905
Because Gen 1 and Gen 2 are objectively superior to everything else the franchise has ever done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 22:25:17 No.37308062 Report

Quoted By:

>>37305051
Compare the typical attachment rates on the 3ds to the typical attachment rates of the Switch. Iirc the Switch has some pretty absurd attachment rates compared to the 3ds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 22:26:04 No.37308068 Report

Quoted By: >>37308083

>>37308057
>objectively superior
>G1

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 22:27:49 No.37308083 Report

Quoted By: >>37308139

>>37308068
Still better than Gen 3-7. Cope zoomer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 22:30:41 No.37308092 Report

Quoted By: >>37308103

>>37307947
At it's core, what did gen 5 do that was drastically different than any games prior to or after it? It still follows the same tired ass formula that every game prior and after follows.

Gen 3 had negative backlash for not being backwards compatible, and many original Pokemon weren't available until FRLG. Why on Earth did they think having no previous Pokemon obtainable would be welcomed?

The only other thing BW did different was having a story, which was skipped in Gen 6 but made a return in Pokemon Sun and Moon present: Lillie's Family Crisis.

I don't think Gen 5 deserves all the hate it gets, because in my opinion it was the last good game before we saw a huge decrease in quality. But it wasn't some perfect, innovative masterpiece. On the other hand, I don't understand how so many can continue to blame a subsection of the fandom that (aside from some obvious trolls) doesn't fucking exsist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 22:33:19 No.37308103 Report

Quoted By: >>37308216 >>37308311 >>37310018

>>37308092
You weren't allowed to capture old Pokemon until the postgame.
That's literally it.
That alone managed to rile up normalfags so badly because they "couldn't catch Charizard until the game was already over", even though they haven't been able to use Charizard prior to postgame since FRLG at the time.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 22:43:02 No.37308139 Report

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>>37308057
>>37308083

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 22:52:17 No.37308169 Report

Quoted By:

>>37307232
>rgby takes place in kanto
>gsc postgame takes place in kanto
>frlg takes place in kanto
>hgss postgame takes place in kanto
>xy takes place in french kanto
>sm and usum take place in hawaiian kanto
>lgpe takes place in kanto

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 22:54:15 No.37308177 Report

Quoted By:

>>37308003
Arceus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 23:02:38 No.37308216 Report

Quoted By:

>>37308103
Who the fuck are normalfags? People who had faithfully played the series up until that point? Someone who hadn't played the games before wouldn't miss the old Pokemon... And anyone who had played more than one game before would be aware they couldn't move Pokemon over from the get-go.

Also, why is this the only generation to suffer from this problem? And why is Charizard the default argument? Why can't someone be upset they couldn't catch piplup or Lucario?

You people are literally so obsessed with trying to find someone to blame that your demonizing non existent fan base. I don't know a single person who dropped the series after gen 1 or 2 and came back to, aside for Pokemon go. But they dropped that months after release and sure as hell didn't buy a 3ds for sm or a switch for lgpe.

For once stop making excuses for Gamefreak and accept they did this to themselves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 23:08:26 No.37308235 Report

Quoted By:

>>37307416
People didn't complain about a lack of ebin kanto references and pandering. They complained about a lack of backwards compatibility and the fact that there were like ~180 mons in R/S's data that weren't available legitimately until Colo and FR/LG released.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 23:22:19 No.37308311 Report

Quoted By:

>>37308103
Anyone who has played the game before will be used to using new Pokemon, hell, most players are excited to try the new ones. Maybe it boils down to people not wanting to use the unova Pokemon.
>In before genwunner with shit taste
I'm a hoennbaby

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 23:52:24 No.37308486 Report

Quoted By: >>37308509

>>37307910
So would this be Gamefreak's fault or the fault of people who haven't touched a Pokemon game in almost two decades?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 23:56:35 No.37308509 Report

Quoted By: >>37308860

>>37308486
GameFreak for not being able to create a game that's able to ease in new fans/people who haven't touched the game in forever without severely dumbing everything down (and outright removing content in LGPE's case) while also providing enough depth and content to keep veterans of the franchise hooked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 23:57:45 No.37308518 Report

Quoted By: >>37308768

>>37307980
That they went their way and made it different enough. It doesn’t even need trading to fully evolve

It seem less like rehashes compared to Seedot and Lotad lines being Hoenn’s Bellsprout and Oddish(all of them are 3-stage Grass lines, version counterparts in their debut game, and rely on a evolutionary stone to reach the final stage)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 23:57:46 No.37308519 Report

Quoted By: >>37308533

Pokemon Go made millions off normie nostalgia.

Also
>nowadays
Name a gen that didn't pander kanto
Gen 2 had Kanto
Gen 3 remade Kanto
Gen 4 had Kanto
Gen 5 was Nue Kanto
Gen 6 was Nue Kanto Part Duex
Gen 7 Remade Kanto again

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jan 2019 23:59:24 No.37308533 Report

Quoted By:

>>37308519
A lot of Pokemon Go players haven't played any other pokemon game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Jan 2019 00:05:01 No.37308566 Report

Quoted By: >>37308617

look at the shitty designs from gen5 they lost their touch

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Jan 2019 00:10:06 No.37308598 Report

Quoted By: >>37309055

>>37307393
you do realize Digimon has been going ADVENTUUUUUUUURE in the middle of Appmon right?

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Anonymous Thu 03 Jan 2019 00:13:08 No.37308617 Report

Quoted By:

>>37308566
I happen to like allot of the designs, so thats just bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Jan 2019 00:42:38 No.37308768 Report

Quoted By:

>>37308518
Interesting. "Different enough." If you're going to try to debate and prove your point, please stick to facts and not subjective measurements that are open to interpretation.

Also, seedot and lotad aren't relevant to what were talking about. Just because Gamefreak has been rehashing Pokemon since gen 2 doesn't mean gen 5 is any less guilty. I don't know if you genuinely lost focus or of this was some pathetic attempt to distract from the original argument, but please don't let it happen again. If you can't stay on topic, I'll assume you don't have the capacity to win this argument.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Jan 2019 00:59:21 No.37308860 Report

Quoted By:

>>37308509
So why are so many blaming "genwunners?" They haven't been around in almost two decades. VP should be mad at Gamefreak for being out of touch, not the people who played a game during the hight of it's popularity and don't come to this board besides to troll.

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Anonymous Thu 03 Jan 2019 01:29:27 No.37309027 Report

Quoted By: >>37309614

>>37304905
What if its that gamefreak really isnt that good of a company and cant think of anything else so they stay with what works?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Jan 2019 01:34:35 No.37309055 Report

Quoted By:

>>37308598
yeah, tamers was old toei. this is nu-toei. savers was the last good season they made and that was all the way back in 2006. much like game freak, they're resorting to nostalgia pandering to distract everyone from their incompetence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Jan 2019 03:23:00 No.37309614 Report

Quoted By: >>37309621

>>37309027
Thank you anon, finally someone with a sound response.

If only vp could actually channel their frustrations towards Gamefreak instead of turning on each other with pointless gen wars. At the end we all just want a good game. The daily gen wars/starter wars and lgpe shit posts are reaching autism levels rivaled only by the Sonic fan base.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Jan 2019 03:24:25 No.37309621 Report

Quoted By:

>>37309614
No, I'm afraid even the Sonic fandom is better now, because they actually set aside their autistic bullshit to call out the shitty Sonic Movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Jan 2019 04:52:20 No.37310018 Report

Quoted By:

>>37308103
As somebody that disliked gen 3, coming off gen 2, it amounts to more than that. Gold/Silver had a shit level curve and bad distribution, but they did ease you into a new region that felt like a logical continuation of the previous one. We even got two regions, even if one was hilariously gimped, and it was pretty nice overall.

People expected generation three to build on this and we got one region, that was mostly water, and a bunch of new pokemon shoved in our faces that was completely disconnected from the priror everything. It was a horrible shock to say the least, felt like a weird bootleg game at times. Nevermind losing cosmetic things like day/night cycles, moving pokemon sprites, etc...

Since then games have been better about this holy HOLY SHIT gen three was throwing fans into a strange world that was actually very different and started the save the world/cover legends plots.

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