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Why do most fakemon-dex designes suck so much?

Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 16:52:37 No.37324745 View View Reply Original Report

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Like seriously why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 16:53:11 No.37324748 Report

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sorry for grammar mistakes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 16:53:18 No.37324749 Report

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hahahahahhahahaha

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Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 17:13:18 No.37324831 Report

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>>37324745
Because you already have preconceived ideas of what catchable-monsters should look like due to Gamefreak

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 17:13:54 No.37324835 Report

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>>37324745
They care too much about making a bunch of type variety, good moveset, and stats and make their artwork reflect those qualities instead of just focusing on just putting the best looking designs they've come up with in their game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 17:24:04 No.37324881 Report

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>>37324745
>most
You mean all of them. I have literally never seen a good fakedex in my entire life.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 17:25:46 No.37324891 Report

Quoted By: >>37325280 >>37325290

There is

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Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 17:30:06 No.37324914 Report

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>>37324745
A lot of these look like they came up with the types first, then drew a random blob in ms paint and turned that into an elemental animal to fill that typing.

I think another problem with a lot of these fakemon dexes like this one are that they're drawn in Gen III-style sprites, but they're too simple. Gen I and II Pokemon had reletively simple designs and color schemes because they were drawn as 8-bit sprites first, with only one (RBY on Super GB) or 2 (GSC) colors visible on the sprite. In Gen III they not only had better graphics to work with, but they started designing their Pokemon on paper first before drawing sprites for them. A lot of fakemon have these overly simple designs, blobby with few colors, and it makes them look wrong in a GBA-level graphics, made worse by amatuer spritework.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 17:32:41 No.37324929 Report

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>>37324745
Because most Fakemon designers are just doing it for fun and don't have guidelines or a team to work with when creating. They're just making silly little designs to practice drawing or have a bit of a creative outlet. If you want them to get better, go help them - tell them what they're doing wrong and what they can do better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 17:33:03 No.37324931 Report

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Because the people that design and draw/sprite them are amateurs. But so what? They have the dedication to make an entire dex, and they love the franchise enough to be inspired by it.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 17:46:43 No.37324986 Report

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I like this one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 17:53:18 No.37325000 Report

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Mostly they are done by children, who have the drive and freedom to create something without the experience needed to make it as polished as official work. One day some of them ho keep it up will make great designs.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 18:05:59 No.37325060 Report

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>>37324986
Those are pretty dope.
Look at this sheep nigga dabbing on realmons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 18:13:06 No.37325090 Report

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>>37324986
The blue moth are cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 18:54:21 No.37325280 Report

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>>37324891
Really great mega evolutions, good designs overall, but damn me if most mid-evos can't be skipped.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 18:55:38 No.37325290 Report

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>>37324891
These are just the same exact Pokemon, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 18:58:57 No.37325304 Report

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Different body type probably(male-female split evo)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 18:59:58 No.37325312 Report

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>>37324745
that's why they're fakemon, cause they are shit.
for real tho only autists and kids make these, therein lies your answer

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Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 19:16:01 No.37325399 Report

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>>37324986
Got rid of most of the bad designs. There's a few here I probably should've removed, but I'm not entirely sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 19:23:44 No.37325453 Report

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>>37325290
It evolves into a different pose

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Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 19:34:51 No.37325509 Report

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>>37324745

Because these guys don't even start out with Fakemon ideas. They want to make a Dex and just struggle to come up with anything. Even if it means making small alterations to existing Pokemon. The sheer autism of wanting your own Pokedex is more shameful than the desire to design a half decent Fakemon at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 19:46:26 No.37325560 Report

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>>37324745
>mfw worked on a fakedex for a game that never got past its first demo before the dev team dissolved
>mfw all the embarassingly terrible designs I made back then (both of my own creation and based on the other devs' ideas) will forever be in my hardrive and not in the internet's collective consciousness
Feels good, honestly.

But back on topic, no fakedex will ever be up to /vp/'s impossibly high and extremely polarized standards, just like no official pokedex will ever be either. When not even sage or clover are universally agreed to be kino, other dexes don't stand a chance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 19:51:13 No.37325588 Report

Quoted By: >>37325602 >>37325899

(op)I think sage's pokedex is actually pretty good compared to most fakedexes, and it could even be considered a true region if it was made up by gamefreak.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 19:53:11 No.37325602 Report

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>>37325588
(op)Forgot to also say >>37324986 could also be official.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 20:01:59 No.37325654 Report

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>>37325560
Post it faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 20:40:31 No.37325855 Report

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>>37325560
What game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 20:49:52 No.37325899 Report

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>>37325588
the sage fakedex is mostly garbage

too many boring quadruped cartoon animals, too much forced aztec shit, too many bland brown colors, too many concepts that are just forced in general like that shitty aurora borealis pokemon because those idiots actually think it's clever

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 20:58:30 No.37325963 Report

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>>37324745
i feel like most fakemon are designed simply to look interesting, rather than being based off of something in the real world or a myth of some sort.
thats why i think clovers designs, while memey and stupid, look asthetically pleasing for the most part, most are designed around a joke or reference instead of simply existing, which gave those who designed them somewhere to start with their design rather than just making some blobby vaugely animal like critter

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 22:57:52 No.37326571 Report

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>>37324745
Because most fakemon are designed by people with very little experience or qualifications in character design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 23:01:12 No.37326592 Report

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>>37324745
most designers only have 1 or 2 designs they're passionate about, and just fill up the rest with shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2019 23:07:40 No.37326625 Report

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>>37325399
>getting rid of titanticmon
shit taste

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Jan 2019 00:03:06 No.37326987 Report

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>>37326625
The concept is novel, the execution is subpar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Jan 2019 00:57:08 No.37327283 Report

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>>37324745
Some people over indulge/think their designs. Some simply only have a few good ideas and run out of steam for the rest (There's a reason it takes an entire team). While some just suck at pixel work...

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Anonymous Sun 06 Jan 2019 00:58:12 No.37327289 Report

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>>37324745
Because
> NEW BAD OLD GOOD

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Anonymous Sun 06 Jan 2019 01:02:54 No.37327308 Report

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The only flawless fakedex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Jan 2019 01:06:58 No.37327326 Report

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>>37327308
>Bottle'O'Drake
Okay. That one got me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Jan 2019 01:09:52 No.37327337 Report

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What bugs me is that most fakemon look like neopets, and thfn autist post them here as leaks and people believe them. There's a style to pokemon design and some people don't realize that.

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Anonymous Sun 06 Jan 2019 01:47:11 No.37327526 Report

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>>37327308
>not posting the superior fakedex

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Jan 2019 04:03:40 No.37328173 Report

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>>37324745
a lot of bad looking sprites are made by people who are still learning how to make them, have you made fakemon/sprites before? I can assure you, it's not at all easy so instead of being a right up cunt and rude, how about encouraging the artist so they get better?

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Anonymous Sun 06 Jan 2019 09:23:08 No.37329537 Report

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>>37324745
Mostly uncanny shading and usage of black outlines.

And also, most have problems arising from being a big design forced into sprite - like too many details on things, weird bulbous appendages, lines going weirdly and crossing themselves messily (they may be distinct on large image, but not on sprite), perspectives being all over the place and so on.

Last but not least, some have designs that would fit neopet/digimon more than pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Jan 2019 11:38:50 No.37330185 Report

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>>37328173
Main issue is that they make the design and colour balance as they go along with it. They also have no real understanding of how pokemon sprites works and takes liberties.
>>37324986
take this one. some of these sprites are actually good and looks like they could fit into gen 5 (not speaking of designs) then you have others like the ice cocoon using a pattern that doesnt translate shape. some of them dont even do the basic rule of looking at the enemy. And when some parts of it is off, everything else will seem off aswell.
i say this as someone does pixel art almost daily

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Jan 2019 11:51:51 No.37330233 Report

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>>37325899
I only like Sage because of Aguanaut, Kobalt, and Terrorcotta desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Jan 2019 12:11:26 No.37330294 Report

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>>37324745
James turner tier designs

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Anonymous Sun 06 Jan 2019 12:25:38 No.37330333 Report

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Every official Pokémon is the result of a process. Even things like ice-cream-cone-mon went through multiple design iterations before being greenlit. Besides that, countless designs are left on the cutting room floor, never too see the light of day.

When fans make a dex of 150 mons, they design 150 mons. And each design is the creators "baby" and they couldn't possibly cut it out.

A single artist forcing themselves to squeeze out 100 designs is usually going to be lower quality than a group of artists who design 500 Pokémon between them, then have another group who aren't personally attached to their designs pick the best 100.

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Anonymous Sun 06 Jan 2019 12:28:10 No.37330341 Report

Quoted By: >>37332297

for the same reason gen 5,6, and 7 designs suck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Jan 2019 20:06:30 No.37332297 Report

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>>37330341
Trust me, it's not the same

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