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PKHeX is officially illegal in Japan

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 11:55:42 No.37365783 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>37365793 >>37365817 >>37365826 >>37366787 >>37366817 >>37366956 >>37367262 >>37367267 >>37367728 >>37368019 >>37370044

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/64316/japan-laws-now-prison-5-years-save-data-changes/index.html
For weebrune readers :
http://www2.accsjp.or.jp/activities/2018/pr6.php

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 11:58:44 No.37365793 Report

Quoted By: >>37365804 >>37365908 >>37369365

>>37365783
How is that even enforceable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 12:02:13 No.37365804 Report

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>>37365793
No, it isn't. If done correctly, there is no telling the difference between an injected pokemon and one generated randomly by the game. If they want to make idiotic impossible builds, then they're fools. This is going to do completely nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 12:08:12 No.37365817 Report

Quoted By: >>37366202

>>37365783
this is for hacking consoles idort, pkhex cannot be regulated

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 12:12:15 No.37365826 Report

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>>37365783
What are they going to do? Randomly inspect people's saves for any possiblity of a hack? Is this real? I mean really, this reads like onion article. If this is real then it's the most fucked up law ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 12:38:35 No.37365908 Report

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>>37365793
>be a moron
>go to a VGC with a mon that fails the legality check
>get reported because serious criminal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 13:02:22 No.37365955 Report

Quoted By: >>37366175

Doesn't the Switch have homebrew but its still primitive?

The 3DS only got truly hacked 2-3 years after release.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 13:02:31 No.37365956 Report

Quoted By: >>37366132

Pretty sure that's not the kind of "save data" they're referring to, and even if it technically did fall under the law, no one's gonna bother making a case out of it. This sounds more about modifying consoles to distribute free games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 13:03:47 No.37365960 Report

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Oi mate, got a loisense for that data?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 14:07:38 No.37366132 Report

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>>37365956
Yeah. Even if it does technically cover injecting Pokémon or cheating in other games, the only times companies would put enough effort in to enforce it would be if people are removing DRM to pirate software.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 14:09:31 No.37366133 Report

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>send hacked pokémon to a jap in wondertrade
>Get him in jail

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 14:20:14 No.37366175 Report

Quoted By: >>37366374 >>37366916

>>37365955
The first 18-20 million Switches can be fully hacked to pirate games and has lots of homebrew - save backup, editing, modding, custom servers, emulators, n64 just got a lot better

https://www.sdsetup.com/console?switch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 14:30:27 No.37366202 Report

Quoted By: >>37369275

>>37365817
>the transfer of tools and programs to remodel saved data of game software
No anon, providing the save editing tools is also illegal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 15:17:19 No.37366374 Report

Quoted By: >>37366409

>>37366175
Why the first 18-20 gorillion only? Is it because they ship with the non-updated firmware unlike special editions?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 15:27:27 No.37366409 Report

Quoted By: >>37366411 >>37366529

>>37366374
they have a vulnerability in the real only bootrom (can't be patched)

>The USB software stack provided inside the boot instruction rom (IROM/bootROM) contains a copy operation whose length can be controlled by an attacker. By carefully constructing a USB control request, an attacker can leverage this vulnerability to copy the contents of an attacker-controlled buffer over the active execution stack, gaining control of the Boot and Power Management processor (BPMP) before any lock-outs or privilege reductions occur. This execution can then be used to exfiltrate secrets and to load arbitrary code onto the main CPU Complex (CCPLEX) "application processors" at the highest possible level of privilege (typically as the TrustZone Secure Monitor at PL3/EL3).

Nintendo have been shipping bootrom patched models since July 2018, 5.0.0 firmware+ have no hacks unless you have a bootrom vulnerable switch (firmware doesn't matter on the first 18-20 switches)

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Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 15:28:51 No.37366411 Report

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>>37366409
read only bootrom*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 16:01:07 No.37366518 Report

Quoted By: >>37368794

Imagine living that fucking cucked

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 16:04:19 No.37366529 Report

Quoted By: >>37366567 >>37368966

>>37366409
Meh I'll just wait until the new Switch gets hacked

This is like the 3DS during its first couple of years

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 16:11:34 No.37366567 Report

Quoted By: >>37366606 >>37368804

>>37366529
switch is basically running an updated 3DS OS

https://gbatemp.net/threads/an-interview-with-a-switch-hacker.500913/

>I think that software-wise, Nintendo has done a really great job. Their operating system, Horizon, is a new, updated version of the OS on the 3DS -- with all of the hardening that has come from the 3DS's years of security issues. There have been a few unfortunate mistakes on their part, but by and large HOS is extremely secure. We've still not seen even one traditional exploitable vulnerability in the HOS kernel, which I think speaks well of the investment Nintendo has been making into securing their platform. I think that the Switch's biggest weakness, security-wise, is that it's running on (and has to be designed around) the Tegra X1 hardware.

you're only hope of the same level of hack on new switches is another bootrom flaw, it would be wise to get an older switch, just look at the PS3, any system that shipped with firmware above 3.56 still can't run custom firmware

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 16:21:08 No.37366606 Report

Quoted By: >>37366664 >>37366694 >>37366783

>>37366567
Sciresm, yellows and Kaphotics will figure it all out

If there is a will, there is a way

The Switch homebrew is just primitive at the moment, most of /vp/ are still on 3DS and will only really migrate to the Switch once Gen 8 is soon to arrive

I'm not paying for 2 year old hardware when there's an updated one incoming

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 16:32:46 No.37366664 Report

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>>37366606
Just how much more powerful is this rumored switch pro even going to be? If it's even happening this year it's probably going to be more expensive than the current switch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 16:39:36 No.37366694 Report

Quoted By: >>37366722

>>37366606
Keep telling yourself that.
The rcm exploit was a massive miracle of a fuckup, don't hold your breath.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 16:48:02 No.37366722 Report

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>>37366694
yeah and sciresm is already happy he can datamine and make pkhex work on all the future switch Pokemon games, he said he would give it his best shot but he's already set, I guess if a new model is a big enough upgrade he would try, if we don't see the pro in the next few months I doubt it's even happening this year

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 17:03:16 No.37366783 Report

Quoted By: >>37366869

>>37366606
>it's always pokefags who ruins Nintendo security
I swear the 3DS was rumored as safe as it could, then x and y released and they blew the thing wide open.
They must really love their perfect iv shines I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 17:04:09 No.37366787 Report

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>>37365783
Are you serious? They're going to throw people into jail cause of... cheating in child's game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 17:11:13 No.37366817 Report

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>>37365783
kek imagine some Jap kid playing with his 3DS and injecting some shit then all of the sudden
>*tok tok*
>...
>*smashes the door*
>GET ON YOUR KNEES, ON YOUR KNEES, HAND OVER THOSE POKEMON OF YOURS
>What we got here
>Mmmh, Sir looks like an entire box of Max IV Shiny Gekkouga Sir
>God those sick bastands

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 17:21:28 No.37366869 Report

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>>37366783
Not everyone use PkHex for editing Pokemon, balltistfags like myself only use it to add items like expensive balls

Others use it to skip EV training, check IVs and or add Mystery Gift events they missed

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Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 17:29:51 No.37366916 Report

Quoted By: >>37366934

>>37366175
You magnificent bastard. I've been looking for something like this site since I got my jig.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 17:35:41 No.37366934 Report

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>>37366916
https://pastebin.com/qa1ENUPP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 17:40:18 No.37366956 Report

Quoted By: >>37369500

>>37365783
>Be Japanese
>Land in prison for five years for altering a save file

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 18:03:40 No.37367057 Report

Quoted By: >>37368973

On the subject of Switch hacking, how secure is it now exactly? I don't want CFW or anything due to online bans, just basic homebrew for save editing by the time gen 8 hits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 18:15:11 No.37367119 Report

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Is this a hacked game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 18:37:19 No.37367235 Report

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>7 years ago people thought the 3DS can't be hacked
>the first few hacks were brick-bait and you had to go through a ton of mental gymanstics (like acquiring garbage old O3DS stocks to get it right)
>since 2 years ago homebrew became really easy because the scene has matured
>people believe it won't be any different with the Switch

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Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 18:44:49 No.37367262 Report

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>>37365783
>some clueless kid wants to get celebi from PKHeX

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Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 18:46:29 No.37367267 Report

Quoted By: >>37367338 >>37367409

>>37365783
Good, I cannot wait for the loli ban to pass too.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 18:50:08 No.37367277 Report

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https://archive.vn/cHYnC
NIGGERS
https://archive.vn/cHYnC
ALL OF YOU ARE NIGGERS
https://archive.vn/cHYnC

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 19:02:02 No.37367338 Report

Quoted By: >>37367390 >>37368516

>>37367267
fuck you. there is nothing wrong with loli

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 19:12:04 No.37367390 Report

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>>37367338
It gratifies people who want to hurt children. Even if no children are hurt you should never deliberately create a demand. Amazing how japan had to wait until 2015 to ban child pornography and only after THAT did loli content slow down suspiciously

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 19:14:42 No.37367409 Report

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>>37367267
That guy must have been either small fry or he pissed off the buyers. Big league human trafficking is part of the system. Normally it never gets taken down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 20:04:14 No.37367657 Report

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OI M8 YA GOT A LOICENSE FOR DAT 6IV DITTO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 20:17:52 No.37367728 Report

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>>37365783
All this means is that Japan is going to be dependent on gaijin for competitive mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 20:52:42 No.37367944 Report

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>mods deleted this
https://archive.vn/cHYnC

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 21:08:44 No.37368019 Report

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>>37365783
Retards dont realise that this law essentially gives Nintendo and co the right to shut down the DISTRIBUTORS of the save editing / hacked software, NOT the average hacking player. They couldn’t give a fucking fuck if you have injected mons, they just want to go after the dealer. No Jap faggot is gonna ge arrested for havin illegal mons, unless if they specifically were the ones creating or distributing the software to do so. Its just like when we all illegally watch movies online; no fucking fed in his right mind is going to personally come to your house and fuck your ass for doing so. Dumb children!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 22:46:51 No.37368516 Report

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>>37367338
>"Its perfectly fine to fap to this character, shes an adult so the fact that she looks like a 5 year old means nothing!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 23:30:04 No.37368794 Report

Quoted By:

>>37366518
They're living in Japan
They're used to that sort of bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 23:32:04 No.37368804 Report

Quoted By: >>37369444

>>37366567
>just look at the PS3, any system that shipped with firmware above 3.56 still can't run custom firmware

Wrong.
In late 2017 they released a CFW that is retard proof to install and works on all phat and most Slim PS3s.
And a few months later they released a version for the Ultra Slim models as well so it's now completely hacked.
Took a while but it shows that no system is unhackable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jan 2019 23:58:24 No.37368966 Report

Quoted By: >>37369023

>>37366529
>this is like the 3DS during its first couple of years
It really isn't. During its first couple of years the 3DS could barely run any homebrew, and the little it could, could only run on an ancient firmware version though elaborate exploits involving the DS compatibility mode. The only method of loading games through that being an expensive flashcart. It wasn't till a year later that an exploit for later firmwares was found and you could downgrade, and another year 'till people finally got off their asses and made piracy and homebrew accessible and free. It took another couple of years to find a coldboot exploit and then a bootrom exploit, so you didn't have to suffer unstable bootups through a home menu exploit to boot a recent firmware on an SD card.

Meanwhile, we're almost two years into the switch's lifespan and you can already just use a paper clip and a USB cable to hack your switch on any firmware through a bootrom exploit, and run save editors and pirated games flawlessly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 00:00:21 No.37368973 Report

Quoted By: >>37369023

>>37367057
You can run CFW temporarily while in Airplane Mode, edit your save, and then just reboot your console into OFW, all without leaving a trace, as long as you don't install pirated games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 00:09:50 No.37369023 Report

Quoted By: >>37369936

>>37368966
Oh, and did I mention how hacking your 3DS used to take up to 10 hours due to downgrades/upgrades needed to accomplish it until just two years ago?

Yeah, switch hacking is really easy comparatively, since you can get set up within minutes if you know what you're doing, and an hour tops if you're new and need to inform yourself of what you're doing first.
Making a NAND backup will take multiple hours but it's just a single long process without you having to intervene at any point.

>>37368973
Also worth mentioning is that if you intend to use CFW temporarily more than once without installing AutoRCM permanently, I recommend getting a jig. They cost a dollar and will save you a lot of fiddling with paperclips and potential damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 00:57:06 No.37369275 Report

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>>37366202
keyword providing, not using

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 01:13:19 No.37369340 Report

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Keep in mind that the interpretation in the OP is provided by the Japanese equivalent of the MPAA, so obviously take it with a MASSIVE grain of salt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 01:19:02 No.37369365 Report

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>>37365793

US has some ridiculously broad "cybercrime" laws too (I think using adblock or private browsing to get around limited article paywalls is technically illegal) it's not really enforceable on normal users. Practically it'll only hit companies selling Gameshark-style tools, and maybe give overzealous prosecutors an extra charge if they seize someone's computer for other reasons.

Still a bad law but we've been breaking bad internet laws for a long time and we're not gonna stop now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 01:32:56 No.37369444 Report

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>>37368804
not wrong, the CFW can only be installed on models that were once on firmware below 3.56, they have the broken keys baked into the hardware, and HAN for the late slim / super slim models isn't real CFW you can only play all psn games and you get basically no homebrew

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 01:42:59 No.37369500 Report

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>>37366956
KEK. Exactly, poor people.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 02:52:11 No.37369936 Report

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>>37369023
>10 hours until just 2 years ago
>10 hours until late 2016 / early 2017

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 03:11:02 No.37370044 Report

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>>37365783
This is all a ploy from a villainous team to steal our Pokemon obviously

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