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Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:02:17 No.37373768 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>37373789 >>37373801 >>37373807 >>37373808 >>37373868 >>37373917 >>37373982 >>37373989 >>37374035 >>37374060 >>37374070 >>37374200

>hates LGPE for casualizing the series for new players
>loves when pic related does it

explain

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:04:35 No.37373782 Report

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>loves

people haven't shut up about the casualization in FE five years

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:05:40 No.37373789 Report

Quoted By: >>37373795 >>37373797

>>37373768
>posts the worst FE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:06:57 No.37373795 Report

Quoted By: >>37374086 >>37374200

>>37373789
actually that's Fates

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:07:28 No.37373797 Report

Quoted By: >>37373884 >>37373937

>>37373789
What's the best one? Genuinely asking, I've never played a FE game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:07:40 No.37373801 Report

Quoted By: >>37373835 >>37374216

>>37373768
If Awaking was like LGPE
>Can't use classic mode
>All growth rates are 85+%
>All characters can move where ever, only the enmey has limited movement
>Every enemy drops stat boosters
>All units gain the same Exp
>Falchion replaced with Stabby Wabby which has and advantage vs all weapons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:09:34 No.37373807 Report

Quoted By: >>37373950 >>37373984

>>37373768
>Lunatic +
>New mechanics
>S Ranking now unlocks ultra hard maps where you can unlock your units' sons/ daughters

Nigga, Awakening is literally the most complex and hardest FE to date. How in the hell is that even remotely synonymous with "casualizing"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:09:53 No.37373808 Report

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>>37373768
Oh, that's quite easy to explain.
See, LGPE is hated by a lot of previous fans for the casualization and stripping of mechanics. In contrast, new players and people that only played Gen 1 typically love it because they don't realize what they're missing.
Fire Emblem Awakening is the same scenario. The reason you don't hear about it as much is because Fire Emblem wasn't as popular of a franchise, and Awakening made it much more known. LGPE didn't have this trait, as Pokemon was already extremely well-known and has actually performed worse than past Pokemon games so far.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:10:29 No.37373811 Report

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>Pokemon boards
>FE discussion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:13:54 No.37373835 Report

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>>37373801
pair with a friend, and their army can help you out of a tough spot! And you can send characters summoned in Fire Emblem heroes for even more units!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:17:36 No.37373868 Report

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>>37373768
What land of delusion do you live in where people actually play FE?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:19:27 No.37373884 Report

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>>37373797
7-9 is usually the general consensus. Personally I think 9 is by far the best in the series if only because It's the only one with a good story. Other wise rom hacks or fangames of 7-8 are pretty good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:20:44 No.37373892 Report

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I don't even know what's FE or what they did

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:24:09 No.37373913 Report

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>>37373892
they made you pet anime girls Amie style and western people got mad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:24:28 No.37373917 Report

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>>37373768
how did awakening casualize FE?
I've only been able to play the newer games

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:26:30 No.37373933 Report

Quoted By: >>37373951 >>37373959

>>37373917

Adding in a casual mode that disables perma death (okay 12 had that as well but it was Japan only), also the pair up mechanic was broken in Awakening, people could solo the game by slapping Chrom and Robin together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:26:47 No.37373936 Report

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>>37373917
being able to grind and buy stat ups made growth rates not matter because you can endlessly reclass and just max out stats anyway. to be fare, you could do this in sacred stones but funds were usually a lot tighter and you had to worry about having weapons to last you through the game-- so it was a little more balanced. in awakening you can just buy a map that lets you grind money, buy a map that lets you grind exp, buy a map that lets you grind good weapons, etc.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:26:50 No.37373937 Report

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>>37373797
Binding Blade and Path of Radiance.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:26:58 No.37373938 Report

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>comparing awakening to lgpe

Awakening was going to be the last fire emblem ever if it didn't sell well so they actually did appeal to nearly everybody unlike gamefreak said they would and it paid off

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:28:38 No.37373950 Report

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>>37373807
>>37373807
>>Lunatic +
It's pure RNG. It's no different than older games giving enemies random crit friendly weapons.

>>New mechanics
The only new mechanic in the game is pair up which is criticized for making the game ridiculously easy. Also it's a mechanic only the player can use which makes it even more unfair.

>>S Ranking now unlocks ultra hard maps where you can unlock your units' sons/ daughters
None of the child maps are hard unless you specifically do them as soon as they are available. And the hardest ones are only difficult if you try to do the bonus objectives.

I like Awakening but it is an easy game especially compare to previous games. The criticisms are totally valid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:28:44 No.37373951 Report

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>>37373933
Haters be damned I love casual mode. I still reset when I screw up anyway. I just can't handle anyone dying. If you must complaining complain about fate's phoenix mode

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:30:03 No.37373959 Report

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>>37373933
but classic mode was still the default option unlike say perma-exp share.
the pairing was pretty ridiculous but it also made it so you could only move once each turn, a huge disadvantage.
>>37373936
this makes more sense. yeah I did this on my second playthrough not to a huge extent but it did make a difference. the game as a whole still felt a little tough sometimes despite all this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:31:19 No.37373970 Report

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pfhahahahs lgpefags are a joke

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:32:41 No.37373982 Report

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>>37373768
The difference is that after the initial tutorial, FE awakening doesn't hold your hand anymore. Plus there's still one major game over trigger in that if Chrom or the player avatar dies, it doesn't matter who's left on your team, its an instant loss scenario, and that applies to all 4 difficulty settings AND you casual mode.

It also helps that awakening doesn't give you 20 fucking revivals at the start and end of each chapter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:32:48 No.37373984 Report

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>>37373807
>lunatic+
>complex
literally let frederick do the heavy lifting for a couple chapters then play more carefully because the enemy get bullshit weapons and skills that fuck you over with RNG instead of good design

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:34:06 No.37373989 Report

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>>37373768
Pokemon has been casualized for a long time now

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:38:44 No.37374017 Report

Quoted By: >>37374025 >>37374040

Awakening has difficulty settings, battle speed up, cutscene skipping, and multiple save files

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:39:55 No.37374025 Report

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>>37374017
and better art and waifus and not stupid shit like baddy bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:40:57 No.37374035 Report

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>>37373768
Awakening didn't make you bring Archers and Wind magic to the pegasus knight maps, remove the skills mechanics, and make you play with nothing but Einerjar cards of Marth and his party while making you play Heroes if you want anyone else.

Also, the devs of awakening were on their last leg trying to keep fire emblem alive, while LGPE is symptomatic of a dev team doing too well and resting on their laurels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:41:48 No.37374040 Report

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>>37374017
LGPE actually has cutscene skipping but it's a monkey paw because the game has barely any cutscenes at all so it's not needed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:42:11 No.37374043 Report

Quoted By: >>37374072 >>37374119

>even the worst Fire Emblem games are better than modern Pokemon games
>>37373937
>even the fucking trading cards look better
/fe/ when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:42:26 No.37374048 Report

Quoted By: >>37374077

>>37373959
>the pairing was pretty ridiculous but it also made it so you could only move once each turn, a huge disadvantage

There's no disadvantage to pairing up because:

>Both characters can get exp when fighting
>you can switch between them, at any point
>the characters class offers stat bonuses when pair including movement boosts for free as well as a boost based on their own stats
>There were zero other objectives in the game other than kill everyone which meant it was better to make a 5 OP units than 10 strong ones
>Galeforce

But yeah the whole no other objectives than kill everyone is probably what really made Awakening an easy game.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:44:14 No.37374060 Report

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>>37373768
At least FE gave the option of a more challenging game with fates/birthright

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:45:55 No.37374069 Report

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awakening were the best selling fe games, lgpe are the worst selling main ganes hahahaha

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:46:00 No.37374070 Report

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>>37373768
Awakening saved the Fire Emblem franchise that was already in the doldrums for a decade

LGPE is just a shameless cashgrab

Pokemon can move on without LGPE but Fire Emblem wouldn't be a profitable and bustling IP today if it weren't for Awakening. The old cranky FE players who hated Awakening and Fates are basically extinct now

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:46:03 No.37374072 Report

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>>37374043
Forgot
>even the fucking gacha game is better than Pokemon Go

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:46:29 No.37374077 Report

Quoted By: >>37374089 >>37374133

>>37374048
not being able to use both strong fighters each turn is the disadvantage to pairing up.
I can see why theres still more reasons than not but it wasn't an insta-win like double battling the entire game in letsgo

what other kind of objectives were there in past games? i don't think fates had much variety either or i just dont remember

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:47:38 No.37374086 Report

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>>37373795
Yeah I was about to say this. Fates felt like it had too much to it and not enough if it was to keep you playing. I started in awakening and then I played Fates and got really bored with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:47:54 No.37374089 Report

Quoted By: >>37374103

>>37374077
Seize, defend, escape

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:50:03 No.37374103 Report

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>>37374089
I'm pretty sure there were some seize missions and maybe one or two defend ones.
but yeah the majority of the game was just "beat all units"
at least sometimes the game would spawn harder and harder enemies giving you a pseudo time limit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:52:04 No.37374119 Report

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>>37374043
That's just Japanese card games right now for you, they've all gone borderless with a lot of vibrancy and cool foiling processes. I used to play Magic and I really wish they'd pick up on some of this card design philosophy. Pokémon has started to move into it more but just for GX shenanigans and Full Art Trainers

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 19:54:13 No.37374133 Report

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>>37374077
Escort missions, Mission where enemies would continuously spawn and you had to protect a specific spot or npc or just last long enough. Missions where the goal is to escape the map because there's powerful units chase you that you can't really beat. Y'know basic tactical game stuff. Awakening had little to none of that which is why the maps are super simple and flat.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 20:03:52 No.37374200 Report

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>>37373768
FE oldfags hate Awakening though. Actually Awakening was only successful because they loaded the game with waifus and the marriage mechanic.
>>37373795
Conquest is one of the best

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jan 2019 20:06:04 No.37374216 Report

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>>37373801
Lel

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