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Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 05:01:43 No.37383067 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>37383112 >>37383116 >>37383123 >>37383146 >>37383150 >>37383176 >>37383435

The freeze status needs a complete rework, and Frozen Solid should be the "Badly Poisoned" of the freeze status.

Please try to prove me wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 05:04:18 No.37383077 Report

Quoted By: >>37383082

Wouldn't that just make "regular" frozen identical to paralysis?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 05:05:22 No.37383082 Report

Quoted By: >>37383089

>>37383077
I was think cutting special attack in half because reasons BRAIN FREEZE :^)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 05:06:27 No.37383089 Report

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>>37383082

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 05:15:31 No.37383112 Report

Quoted By: >>37383125 >>37383432 >>37384369

>>37383067
>Make icetype's worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 05:16:46 No.37383116 Report

Quoted By: >>37383128

>>37383067
should be like burn but for speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 05:18:35 No.37383123 Report

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>>37383067

Frozen Solid should be 3 turns guaranteed desu. More reliable.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 05:19:00 No.37383125 Report

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>>37383112
Good luck trying to explain your thought process while posting this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 05:19:37 No.37383128 Report

Quoted By: >>37383181

>>37383116

That’s Paralysis. Which is stupid. It’s already good without the speed being cut.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 05:26:30 No.37383146 Report

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>>37383067
Freeze should prevent the opponent from switching out.
There, use ice types now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 05:27:54 No.37383150 Report

Quoted By: >>37383166

>>37383067
What if freeze always lasted 3 turns?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 05:33:04 No.37383166 Report

Quoted By: >>37383181

>>37383150
>Worse Sleep status

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 05:36:42 No.37383176 Report

Quoted By: >>37383179

>>37383067
>should be the badly poisoned of freeze status
So everyone only uses Frozen Solid still and nothing changes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 05:37:37 No.37383179 Report

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>>37383176
If anything, but I said it needs a complete rework

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 05:37:53 No.37383181 Report

Quoted By: >>37383362

>>37383166
not really its can be more reliable then sleep since you can wake up with the first turn or second
>>37383128
yeah it is but thinking it could be a combination of the two

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 05:43:14 No.37383192 Report

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Have it "break" when you select attack based moves while frozen. Moves with greater power can remove it more quickly, or super effective moves break it instantly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 06:51:08 No.37383362 Report

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>>37383181
Fire moves can thaw frozen Pokemon though.
Scald and a few other moves can thaw the user too

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 06:59:37 No.37383380 Report

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Or they could just change it so that the "real" FRZ only happens when ice Pokemon are using the attacks, while the weaker version of the status triggers when non-ice inflict it. Maybe have the weaker version only have a chance of making the Pokemon fail to attack until it wears off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 07:21:35 No.37383432 Report

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>>37383112
The only way you can freeze shit is by chance on some attacks. Freeze is the only status that doesn't have attacks that directly inflict it. It should be a set guaranteed number of turns, to differentiate it from Sleep.
There also needs to be an Ice move that powers up when used against frozen targets, similar to Venoshock. If you can't make Ice defensive, they should at least give them the option to trap enemies them with status

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 07:22:38 No.37383435 Report

Quoted By: >>37383440 >>37383486 >>37384171

>>37383067
>frozen
Pokémon cannot move for 2-5 turns. Can be switched out to recover from status condition
>frozen solid
Layer 2, enemy must be frozen before. Cannot move for 3-5 turns. Cannot be switched out. Loses small percentage of health

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 07:25:07 No.37383440 Report

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>>37383435
Loses small percentage of health per turn I mean

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 07:42:54 No.37383486 Report

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>>37383435
Something along these lines, my take on it:
>Frostbitten
Last 2 turn, upon thawing afflicted Pokemon lose 25% of their current hp. Damage output reduced by 15%.
>Frozen Solid
Lasts 2 turns, upon thawing afflicted Pokemon 35% of their total hp. Can't use moves. Can only freeze solid Pokemon already frostbitten that don't resist ice type.

There gave it a huge impact while keeping reasonable making it possible to have a move dedicated to freezing without making it overpowered.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 12:18:36 No.37384171 Report

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>>37383435
>wanting more than 1 guaranteed free turn
>wanting freeze to be claused out completely

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 13:33:18 No.37384369 Report

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>>37383112
Making Freeze into a more common, but less broken status would buff all Ice types.
Making it a Special version of burn and having an Ice Will-o-Wisp would be so much better than keeping Freeze as it is now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 13:36:37 No.37384371 Report

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Freeze needs to be something other than a worse version of Sleep. For a status that can be cured on the same turn you're inflicted with it, there's no justifiable reason why the chance of inflicting it is so slow. It hasn't been a death sentence status since gen 1, so why continue to treat it as such?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 18:03:59 No.37385087 Report

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This entire thread is just a bunch of retards doing mental gymnastics to rework freeze, and for what exactly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jan 2019 18:25:22 No.37385157 Report

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Rename Frozen to Chilled.
If Pokemon is Chilled, cut special move damage by 50%. Chance to be unable to move.

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