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Ultra Necrozma possibly going to AG

Anonymous Sun 20 Jan 2019 19:48:34 No.37413709 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>37413717 >>37414226 >>37414674 >>37415454 >>37415704 >>37415957 >>37416219 >>37418936 >>37418975 >>37419189

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/introducing-the-ubers-tiering-council.3646217/

>Ubers tiering council is currently considering suspect testing Ultra Necrozma (Ultranecronium Z) in Ubers

Will Mega Fug finally get a partner, boys?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jan 2019 19:49:29 No.37413717 Report

Quoted By: >>37413727

>>37413709
>fanfic metas and simulators
*snap*
now back to your confinement forums

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jan 2019 19:50:34 No.37413727 Report

Quoted By: >>37413822

>>37413717
Better go back to VGC verlis

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jan 2019 20:05:08 No.37413822 Report

Quoted By: >>37414018 >>37417003

>>37413727
>i-it's the verlis
>it's only him reeee
>t-tell me that on the forums and i'll f*cking ban you!!!1!
lmao insecure smogonspergs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jan 2019 20:19:06 No.37413922 Report

Quoted By: >>37413987 >>37414024 >>37416158 >>37419046 >>37420827

Why do people here hate smogon so so much? Official competitive formats are kinda trainwrecks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jan 2019 20:25:53 No.37413987 Report

Quoted By: >>37414191

>>37413922
muh bros

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jan 2019 20:31:05 No.37414018 Report

Quoted By: >>37414034

>>37413822
don't you have a dog to fuck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jan 2019 20:31:42 No.37414024 Report

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>>37413922
cause its not official and, most importantly, they didnt participate in it, so they are jealous over their fame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jan 2019 20:33:25 No.37414034 Report

Quoted By: >>37414098

>>37414018
Yes, the bitch of your mother is waiting up, but non existent animals are hotter anyways

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 20 Jan 2019 20:40:58 No.37414098 Report

Quoted By: >>37417713 >>37418944

>>37414034
Didn't know you were into necrophilia, you dogfucker. I guess you're too much of a pathetic faggot to even come up with a proper comeback. Guess the compilation's getting 1 image larger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jan 2019 20:51:02 No.37414191 Report

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>>37413987
>Official format only favor "viable" pokemon
>Smogon creates a tier system as an attempt to make everything "viable"
I'll never understand the hate

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jan 2019 20:58:24 No.37414226 Report

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>>37413709
Seems unnecessary. Ultra Necrozma is strong, but to even compare it to Mega-Fug is laughable.
Hopefully nothing will come out of this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jan 2019 21:02:19 No.37414254 Report

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Ultra is nowhere near Mega Fug levels, it can't even use Neuroforce properly unless against Primal Groudon
maybe if it had the totem boost from the game's boss battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jan 2019 21:07:15 No.37414290 Report

Quoted By: >>37415883

what changed? thought ultra necrozma was always considered "ubers-strong" but unremarkable

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jan 2019 21:57:21 No.37414674 Report

Quoted By: >>37415136

>>37413709
Wait? People actually play Ubers other than kids and meme/gimmick teams?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jan 2019 22:46:10 No.37415123 Report

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muh imaginary tiers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jan 2019 22:47:19 No.37415136 Report

Quoted By: >>37416240

>>37414674
The more shameful thing is that people still play smogon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jan 2019 23:22:28 No.37415454 Report

Quoted By: >>37416408

>>37413709
What happened to make it viable enough to send to AG? I thought people only bothered to use the Dusk Mane one?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 20 Jan 2019 23:59:12 No.37415704 Report

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>>37413709
>only allowed to use ultranecronium z
>no dragon dance
>marshadow used shadow sneak
>choice scarf revenge killers can rape it
>special ultra is a joke
>AG material

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 00:22:52 No.37415883 Report

Quoted By: >>37417886

>>37414290
People finally started using him instead of Dusk Mane as your sweeper, the amount of things that can stop Dusk but get rekt by Ultra is hilarious

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 00:23:41 No.37415891 Report

Quoted By: >>37415925 >>37416146

What would it take for it to reach mega fug levels?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 00:27:23 No.37415925 Report

Quoted By: >>37416014 >>37417987 >>37418955

>>37415891
Giving Ultra Necro:
Dragon Dance
More movepool, special movepool in particular, perhaps Nasty Plot
Making Neuroforce better

For Zygarde-C
Perhaps letting it start with 100% and getting Aura Break when transformed (or buffing it so it isn't hilariously specific)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 00:30:44 No.37415957 Report

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>>37413709
I think they're just winging it at this point and the sad part is that all it takes is for one higher up Smogonfag to bitch about Ultra Necrozma and the mob mentailty will take over just like Zygarde

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 00:31:53 No.37415964 Report

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Who do you think is the top, Ultra Necrozma or Mega Fug?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 00:34:45 No.37415987 Report

Quoted By: >>37416254

>ban Ultra Necrozma
>but keep Primal Groudon
lmao

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 00:38:02 No.37416014 Report

Quoted By: >>37416698

>>37415925
>tfw no draco meteor

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 00:58:31 No.37416146 Report

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>>37415891
Neuroforce being the the stat boost like it had in the boss battle (and it's active everytime it comes into battle), on top of its standard ability.
Being able to have a free Choice Band/Specs/Scarf, Assault Vest, and Galon Berry with no downsides is even more broken than Mega Fug wishes it could be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 01:00:08 No.37416158 Report

Quoted By: >>37416205

>>37413922
VGC is a lot better

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 01:05:47 No.37416205 Report

Quoted By: >>37416239

>>37416158
Lol its a joke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 01:07:49 No.37416219 Report

Quoted By:

>>37413709
It's really not that good

What is Smogon doing lately?
Zygard ban, possible UNecrozma ban

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 01:10:19 No.37416239 Report

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>>37416205
i think it's more of a joke to ban moves or apply random clauses just to make your metagame not broken

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 01:10:22 No.37416240 Report

Quoted By: >>37416256 >>37420266

>>37415136
The more shameful thing is people will play stale ass vgc or play Pokemon without playing competitive at all, and enjoy just throwing balls at animals and spamming A the whole game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 01:13:24 No.37416254 Report

Quoted By: >>37417789 >>37417836

>>37415987
Kinda like the Zygard shit

The Pokemon was good, but it wasn't Uber material at all. The problem is, Smogon players will vote to ban things if they think the metagame would be more fun without it. Not if something is broken or not. That's also the reason nothing ever gets retested back to OU anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 01:13:31 No.37416256 Report

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>>37416240
what's wrong with VGC?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 01:36:21 No.37416408 Report

Quoted By: >>37417766

>>37415454
Ultra's parity with Dusk Mane is fucking insane, you can jump from heavy tank Steel-type to hyper-offensive Dragon-type without consequence and there's almost no way to know when or if its gonna happen if you're facing one. Not to mention that Z-move

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 02:35:09 No.37416698 Report

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>>37416014
I guess that too, but Dragon is just so shitty outside of luring shit (like Zygarde-C)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 03:36:22 No.37417003 Report

Quoted By: >>37417796

>>37413822
Verlis got a player who was 2nd place in worlds banned from the TCG

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 05:50:13 No.37417693 Report

Quoted By: >>37417912

For everyone who's unaware
They don't consider Ultra Necrozma OP
The problem is, its checks are totally different from Dusk Mane's and the opponent is forced to guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 05:53:36 No.37417713 Report

Quoted By: >>37417725

>>37414098
>m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-my mom is dead I s-s-s-swear
Dude I used that when I was 12 playing minecraft

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 05:55:36 No.37417725 Report

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>>37417713
took you a long time to come up with that one, huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 06:03:10 No.37417766 Report

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>>37416408
That's pretty neat, I should give it a go before it gets the hammer then. Haven't tried out smogon in a while and don't really want to much though (just isn't as fun without the flashy animations), but I like them. I like that they give out neat little sets for people who don't know what the fuck they're doing like me, but I mostly play on cart so I don't mind their bans or whatever they do, it brings my attention to what's good or interesting to use. Would've never even looked at Fugtrio without the fuss /vp/ was making over it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 06:05:40 No.37417789 Report

Quoted By: >>37420253

>>37416254
Zygarde’s suspect test discussion was basically
>waaah paralysis is annoying

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 06:06:42 No.37417796 Report

Quoted By:

>>37417003
He fully deserved to be banned tbqh

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 06:13:00 No.37417829 Report

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/vp/ told me I just needed to use toxic or topsy turvy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 06:14:39 No.37417836 Report

Quoted By: >>37417850

>>37416254
There's been some rumors if OU becomes cancer because the things Zyg pressured become too good, Lando-I might end up on a suspect to return to OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 06:18:10 No.37417850 Report

Quoted By:

>>37417836
>bring Lando back to put things in order
He really is the daddy of healthy meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 06:26:26 No.37417886 Report

Quoted By:

>>37415883
>People finally started using him instead of Dusk Mane as your sweeper, the amount of things that can stop Dusk but get rekt by Ultra is hilarious

They have pretty much the opposite checks except for Yveltal, and Yveltal needs Scarf or Sucker Punch to stop Ultra.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 06:33:21 No.37417912 Report

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>>37417693
>The problem is, its checks are totally different from Dusk Mane's and the opponent is forced to guess.

Lame, you might as well ban Z-Moves altogether, because Z-Moves allow Pokemon to bypass their checks and if you only have one, you lose.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 06:53:25 No.37417987 Report

Quoted By:

>>37415925
Zygarde-C with aura break and no hp gimmick

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 10:58:37 No.37418826 Report

Quoted By: >>37419050

i wonder why zyg-c and arceus not regarded as super-high tier, or at least not on the same level as ultrozma and fug
one's got two starting forms and an ability that ups special attack and some other stats while healing a great amount of health, and the other's got 120 in all stats, only one weakness and a hell of a movepool

but im probly missing something

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 11:43:42 No.37418925 Report

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Smogon threads is just shitposting while complaining about vgc

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 11:48:09 No.37418936 Report

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>>37413709
>Will Mega Fug finally get a partner, boys?
They'll just make a new tier for it called Nothing Goes.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 11:51:11 No.37418944 Report

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>>37414098
Your mom must have been buttfucked to death, so now you have only your father to be fucked and be an orphan. Cute

Also, 2017 called, they want their 'cringe' compilations back

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 11:55:45 No.37418955 Report

Quoted By: >>37418963

>>37415925
Zygarde gimmick is fine, what he needs is change the +10 spe attack for +10 attack and make Core Enforcer physical

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 11:58:14 No.37418963 Report

Quoted By: >>37418967

>>37418955
What about making it work like Photon Geyser and adding the snek buffs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 12:01:20 No.37418967 Report

Quoted By: >>37418973 >>37419128

>>37418963
The snek has two great buff moves already, that's why making Core Enforcer physical would be enough, that this used several times in a row hits harder than fucking Draco Meteor, imagine giving Zygarde that on top the absurdly viable Thousand Arrows when he still has its buff moves (Coil and Dragon Dance)
Or even better, make Core Enforcer a move that only the Zygarde with Power Construct can learn and then make that the complete form is triggered either when Zygarde's HP reachs its 50% (or less) or when you use Core Enforcer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 12:02:50 No.37418973 Report

Quoted By:

>>37418967
>that this
Mean to type "that shit"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 12:03:06 No.37418975 Report

Quoted By: >>37419531

>>37413709
Wait I thought he was shit what happened?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 12:24:42 No.37419046 Report

Quoted By: >>37420744

>>37413922
it's only my opinion but competition is for insecure people who can't see that the only person worth surpassing is oneself.

that and the fact that 5 guys on a german forum said "you can't use this pokemon because he is too strong" which is against karen's rule and "you can't make two of my pokemon sleep, it's cheating" which is against logic in a game where you can badly poison and confuse your opponent without any problem.

tl:dr I don't like people who try to dictate how I should play my games

but, given the time and effort put on the simulator, I'll admit that they earned the right to make up rules for it, just don't force it outside of the circle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 12:27:25 No.37419050 Report

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>>37418826
>zyg-c and arceus not regarded as super-high tier, or at least not on the same level as ultrozma and fug

They're fatmons with low offense and functionally no ability. 120 offensive stats are low even by OU standards for an offensive Pokemon, let alone 100/91. This is why the most popular Arceus forms are defensive.
E-Killer is hard countered by Marshadow and cucked by Lele.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 13:03:15 No.37419128 Report

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>>37418967
Ideally, Zygarde-C should be had been available once 100 cells are found so that the player can freely choose whatever forme Zygarde forme he/she wants to use imo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 13:28:05 No.37419189 Report

Quoted By: >>37419495 >>37420613

>>37413709
Well, they're banning it.
Considering a suspect test always means a suspect test, and a suspect test always means a ban.
Now that AG is not going to be a one-off exception for Mega Rayquaza, they'll start trigger-happy banning more shit to it, until it becomes a massive tier in itself, then they'll ban Mega Rayquaza from it, to a new tier, and the cycle repeats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 15:26:38 No.37419495 Report

Quoted By: >>37420664

>>37419189
>a suspect test always means a ban
Dugtrio the first time when they suspected it instead of arena trap

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 15:36:25 No.37419531 Report

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>>37418975
It was never shit, just not quite the all-powerful Mega Fug tier beast Game Freak intended it to be. Plus Dusk Mane is amazing so it made Ultra Necrozma seem less amazing by comparison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 18:13:28 No.37420253 Report

Quoted By:

>>37417789
Breloom was fucking worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 18:17:04 No.37420266 Report

Quoted By:

>>37416240
nah, the more shameful thing is people thinking a game for 5 year olds has a viable competitive meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 19:20:29 No.37420613 Report

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>>37419189
>a suspect test always means a ban
Fun fact: the first Pokemon to ever be suspect tested was Tyranitar in Gen IV.
Fun fact: the only Rock-type to have ever been Ubers is Arceus-Rock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 19:27:27 No.37420664 Report

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>>37419495
That was only the cucks that voted no because they wanted an arena trap test instead since "diglett stall too good!!!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 19:36:55 No.37420744 Report

Quoted By: >>37423431

>>37419046
Competitive environments aren't about superiority or security. It's about where to take your skill when you've mastered the game to a point single player no longer offers a challenge. Smogon tiers only exist because VGC doesn't adequately satisfy those needs to some because you're less playing pokemon and more a coinflip when every asshat off the side of the street decides they can cheese you with double team. Wins aren't engaging

Nobody plays poker over solitaire for security or validation, they do it because it's more their idea of fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jan 2019 19:46:40 No.37420827 Report

Quoted By:

>>37413922
I don’t even know. There’s some whining about superiority complexes as well, but I’ve only ever seen this place’s casual elitism. It baffles me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jan 2019 01:58:52 No.37423431 Report

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>>37420744
>Competitive environments aren't about superiority or security

Did you proof read your post before clicking submit? None of it is accurate at all.

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