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Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 02:23:50 No.37525818 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>37525831 >>37525839 >>37525872 >>37525874 >>37525875 >>37526038 >>37526731 >>37526857 >>37527113

A-are fire type starters based on the Zodiac??

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 02:24:39 No.37525822 Report

Quoted By: >>37525999

maybe

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 02:25:27 No.37525828 Report

Quoted By: >>37525829

That's a funny looking dog

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 02:26:07 No.37525829 Report

Quoted By: >>37525892 >>37526905

>>37525828
Dude, foxes are cannidae

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 02:26:44 No.37525831 Report

Quoted By: >>37525846 >>37525852 >>37525894 >>37526119 >>37526497

>>37525818
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CYNDAQUIL IS A SHREW DESPITE THE POKEDEX CALLING HIM A RAT AND DELPHOX IS NOT A DOG DESPITE BEING A CANIDAE

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 02:27:44 No.37525839 Report

Quoted By: >>37525847 >>37525864 >>37525883 >>37525903 >>37526506 >>37526941

>>37525818
Hoping for a snake or sheep/goat since they are the hardest to make anthro

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 02:29:15 No.37525846 Report

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>>37525831
>shrew
echidna

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 02:29:16 No.37525847 Report

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>>37525839
anthro is good tho :>

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 02:30:22 No.37525852 Report

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>>37525831
So you think Blastoise is a clam?

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Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 02:32:58 No.37525864 Report

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>>37525839
Says you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 02:34:41 No.37525872 Report

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>>37525818
Yes. There are been fire starters that fit exactly in the chinese zodiac each gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 02:34:55 No.37525874 Report

Quoted By: >>37525889

>>37525818
Do you honestly think gamefreak could keep to a specific design idea for 20 years? They can rarely keep to one for one whole gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 02:34:56 No.37525875 Report

Quoted By: >>37526680

>>37525818

Can't wait for it to be a Fire alligator, and Zodiacfags saying it's the snake. It's always some tenuous connection bullshit with them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 02:36:41 No.37525883 Report

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>>37525839
The one thing that might have been dope anthro would be like a goatish minotaur fire starter. That would have been a good Fire//Dark, not some gay ass WRESTLER cat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 02:38:02 No.37525889 Report

Quoted By: >>37525902 >>37525905

>>37525874
The only thing that will shut them up forever would be something out of left field like a kangaroo or something, until then it might be up for debate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 02:38:49 No.37525892 Report

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>>37525829
Sheep and oxen are both bovidae. Clearly, the line for differentiation is more specific than Family.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 02:39:20 No.37525894 Report

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>>37525831
>hurr durr family=species

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 02:40:24 No.37525902 Report

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>>37525889
>The only thing that will shut them up forever would be something out of left field like a kangaroo or something

No, that would be the rabbit.

t. delusional Zodiac believer

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Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 02:40:31 No.37525903 Report

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>>37525839
Aside from hoping they go with Quetzalcoatl for the snake starter inspiration, I'm pretty sure everything else will be bipedal dude. They just have a more diverse movepool, due to being able to use their forelimbs. I mean, here's Pyroar, really want to inflict that on a Starter? Game Freak have rules about this shit, pokémon get moves according to their ability to use moves. If it's quadruped, there's just a whole lot of shit it can't feasibly pull off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 02:40:52 No.37525905 Report

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>>37525889
>implying you wouldn't get retards arguing that kangaroos are big rabbits

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Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 02:41:19 No.37525909 Report

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My vote for the bull starter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 02:54:27 No.37525989 Report

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>>37525903
I mean gamefreak has given some quardmons decent movesets such as aracnine
Goat
>Fire/Rock or Fire/Steel
>Learns head smash,Iron head,flare blitz,EQ,stealth rocks,morning sun?,superpower,swords dance,horn leech?,wild charge
>gets rock head

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Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 02:55:31 No.37525995 Report

Quoted By: >>37526024 >>37528868

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 02:55:47 No.37525999 Report

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>>37525822
fpbp

It's a stretch, but kind of fits, kind of not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 03:01:39 No.37526024 Report

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>>37525995
No dude it counts, they're both chordata

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Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 03:05:11 No.37526038 Report

Quoted By: >>37526041 >>37526044 >>37526486

>>37525818
The zodiac is complete.
Thoughts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 03:06:11 No.37526041 Report

Quoted By: >>37526530

>>37526038
Nice Digimon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 03:06:27 No.37526044 Report

Quoted By: >>37526069 >>37526542

>>37526038
Still missing a dog

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 03:10:10 No.37526069 Report

Quoted By: >>37526080 >>37526086

>>37526044
What part of creative liberty you don't understand. It's not that far of a stretch from a fox to a dog.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 03:12:32 No.37526080 Report

Quoted By: >>37526087 >>37526093 >>37526553

>>37526069
For Pokémon GO’s year of the dog event they released shiny Snubbull, poochyena, growlithe, Eevee, & electrike. TPC approves of these events etc and basically confirmed that while Poochyena Eevee & Electrike are clearly other animals, they still count as dogs

So yes fennekin is still a dog

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 03:13:32 No.37526086 Report

Quoted By: >>37526542

>>37526069
That's just being retarded. No point in a theory if you make up your own rules.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 03:13:37 No.37526087 Report

Quoted By: >>37526108 >>37526109 >>37526592

>>37526080
Thanks for this! Only thing that would break the zodiac is if we get something that we legit can’t dispute like a Fire Frog

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 03:14:06 No.37526093 Report

Quoted By: >>37526492

>>37526080
So where's shiny vulpix?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 03:16:53 No.37526107 Report

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>Gen 8 revealed
>The fire starter is a scorpion
>"It's based on the Chinese and Astrology zodiac"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 03:16:59 No.37526108 Report

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>>37526087
Or a fox

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 03:17:08 No.37526109 Report

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>>37526087
What if we get an ACTUAL fire dog or fire rat.
What then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 03:18:11 No.37526119 Report

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>>37525831
Cyndaquil's Dex says mouse and nobody is retarded enough to think mice and rats are the same, right?

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Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 04:16:45 No.37526486 Report

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>>37526038
They're all a bit wank and the horse starter isn't this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 04:17:51 No.37526492 Report

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>>37526093
Being held back still as they'll likely want to keep it for a safari event or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 04:18:38 No.37526497 Report

Quoted By: >>37526521

>>37525831
rodent != mouse, also it was a literal translation pre-gen 4 days (remember that every fucking rodent is "nezumi" in Japanese)

also "shellfish Pokemon" and "crayfish Pokemon"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 04:19:41 No.37526506 Report

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>>37525839
>naga
>baphomet

are you even trying

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 04:23:57 No.37526521 Report

Quoted By: >>37526551

>>37526497
>(remember that every fucking rodent is "nezumi" in Japanese)
I was not aware of this but I checked Japanese Wikipedia and shrews are considered "nezumi" despite technically not being rodents, so I think we can stop arguing about whether or not Cyndaquil counts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 04:25:21 No.37526529 Report

Quoted By: >>37526536 >>37526541

>>37526492
How convenient

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 04:25:22 No.37526530 Report

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>>37526041
Shut the fuck up you don’t even know what a digimon is you underage

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 04:26:47 No.37526536 Report

Quoted By: >>37526551

>>37526529
No one cares about vulpix anyway. The relationship between a dog and a hyena is way more reaching than a dog and a fennec

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 04:27:40 No.37526541 Report

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>>37526529
Blame Hanke not me, but in case you really don't play Go, they use shiny forms as content bumps (get more people out playing and possibly spending in-game).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 04:27:48 No.37526542 Report

Quoted By: >>37526886

>>37526044
>>37526086
The semantic component of the kanji for fox is "dog."

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 04:31:16 No.37526551 Report

Quoted By: >>37526558 >>37526604

>>37526521
Good. Remember that Chespin is a "nezumi" too but he isn't a rat. Fire starter zodiacfags are retarded.

>>37526536
Good thing Poochyena was made being part dog in mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 04:32:31 No.37526553 Report

Quoted By: >>37526696

>>37526080
Nigga Electrike are considered dogs (wolf) much like Bulbasaur are considered frogs in every Pokemon media.

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Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 04:35:23 No.37526558 Report

Quoted By: >>37526565 >>37526832

>>37526551
>a nezumi is not a nezumi

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 04:37:05 No.37526565 Report

Quoted By: >>37526665

>>37526558
>weaboo in charge of understanding words

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 04:38:36 No.37526572 Report

Quoted By: >>37526700

for the record, the chinese zodiac uses RAT specifically, not RODENT nor NEZUMI

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 04:39:38 No.37526576 Report

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and DOG is strictly DOG

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 04:43:24 No.37526592 Report

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>>37526087
Anon zodiacfags are retarded and would claim a frog is representing rabbit because it hops.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 04:45:14 No.37526604 Report

Quoted By: >>37526633

>>37526551
>Impluing you know exactly what designers had in mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 04:48:58 No.37526633 Report

Quoted By: >>37526645

>>37526604
>implying you do

Their names literally spell it out btw, both in English and Japanese, and in all media they are treated as dogs.

Hell, the fact that they designed a non-fire starter as a zodiac goes against the whole theory to begin with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 04:50:31 No.37526645 Report

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>>37526633
Poochyena wasn't designed to represent the zodiac though.

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Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 04:53:41 No.37526665 Report

Quoted By: >>37526692 >>37526849

>>37526565
https://wiki.ポケモン.com/wiki/ヒノアラシ
>Classification: Fire Rat Pokemon
LOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 04:56:58 No.37526680 Report

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>>37525875
Yeah like the monkey thats a monkey, and the chicken thats a chicken, and the pig thats the pig, and the riger thats a tiger.

What a minute...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 04:59:23 No.37526692 Report

Quoted By: >>37526695

>>37526665
>he translates nezumi as rat

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:00:13 No.37526695 Report

Quoted By: >>37526700

>>37526692
And you translate it as what, echidna?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:00:13 No.37526696 Report

Quoted By: >>37526706 >>37526718

>>37526553
>wolf = dog
>fox =/= dog

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:00:59 No.37526700 Report

Quoted By: >>37526704 >>37526712

>>37526695
rodent, they use SHU for rat

again, see >>37526572

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:01:14 No.37526704 Report

Quoted By: >>37526712 >>37526859

>>37526700
>rodent, they use SHU for rat

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:02:01 No.37526706 Report

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>>37526696
yes that is true, considering that dogs ARE wolves (canis LUPUS familiaris)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:02:35 No.37526708 Report

Quoted By: >>37526720 >>37526724

zodiac = zodifact

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:02:46 No.37526712 Report

Quoted By: >>37526866 >>37526880

>>37526704
sorry, I had autopost on by accident, ignore that

>>37526700
>rodent, they use SHU for rat
What language are you talking about? Because in Japanese, rat, mouse, and rodent are all 鼠 (nezumi).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:03:18 No.37526718 Report

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>>37526696
Wolves and dogs are literally the same species retard.

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Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:03:33 No.37526720 Report

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>>37526708
^^^^^

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Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:04:18 No.37526724 Report

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>>37526708
more like zodiFAG AM I RIGHT OR AM I RIGHT

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:06:17 No.37526731 Report

Quoted By: >>37526734 >>37526770

>>37525818
I absolutely cannot wait for the next fire starter to be one of these and people still deny it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:07:08 No.37526734 Report

Quoted By: >>37526766

>>37526731
The ""leaks"" point to a fire rabbit, so yeah, zodiac deniers will be BTFO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:12:33 No.37526766 Report

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>>37526734
Zodiac deniars get BTFO every gen now, they managed to develop mental immunity to admitting that fact as well.
it isn't fun winning an argument when the other side doesn't acknoldge thier loss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:13:55 No.37526770 Report

Quoted By: >>37526782 >>37526796

>>37526731
More like it'll be a deer or something and we'll get to have a laugh at patternfags claiming it's actually totally a horse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:15:21 No.37526774 Report

Quoted By: >>37526783

can't wait until the arguments about whether or not a hare counts as a rabbit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:17:02 No.37526782 Report

Quoted By: >>37526809

>>37526770
When it gets to a point where there's no possible slight stretch like that, i will denounce zodiac, but until then, its pretty obvious when theres 7 starters and people only complain about 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:18:04 No.37526783 Report

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>>37526774
>its called the bunny pokemon
>bunnies are completely different from rabbits
>zodiacfags seething

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:20:54 No.37526796 Report

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>>37526770
>an antelope is an ox, they're both bovidae!
the ride won't end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:23:05 No.37526809 Report

Quoted By: >>37526816

>>37526782
Or maybe it's just that the zodiac animals are all incredibly recognizable and popular animals and so of course coincidentally plenty of fire starters are going to be based on those animals, hence why there's also ton of other dragons, monkeys, and pigs (and rats, dogs, snakes, and rabbits which have yet to be represented) in the series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:24:11 No.37526816 Report

Quoted By: >>37526819 >>37526848

>>37526809
Damn, 5 times spot on is some coincidence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:25:13 No.37526819 Report

Quoted By: >>37526820

>>37526816
6 actually, since Cyndaquil is officially a rat in Japanese.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:26:07 No.37526820 Report

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>>37526819
7 if you understand the concept of creative liberty

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:27:59 No.37526824 Report

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>>37526820
8 if you're working on the newest games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:30:04 No.37526832 Report

Quoted By: >>37526837

>>37526558
The japanese word for hedgehog or porcupine, I don't remember which, also includes the word Nezumi. Fuck off you retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:32:04 No.37526837 Report

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>>37526832
That's because nezumi is the word for all rodents and rodent-like animals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:33:17 No.37526842 Report

Quoted By: >>37526849

>>37526119
What is it in japanese though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:34:16 No.37526848 Report

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>>37526816
It isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:34:24 No.37526849 Report

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>>37526842
see
>>37526665

It's "hinezumi" which literally means "fire rat."

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:36:48 No.37526857 Report

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>>37525818
Watch us get a bear or somthing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:36:49 No.37526859 Report

Quoted By: >>37526880

>>37526704
Ah I see, you're a retard who thinks rodent = rat

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:38:47 No.37526866 Report

Quoted By: >>37526880

>>37526712
子

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:39:07 No.37526869 Report

Quoted By: >>37526873

>>37526857
Just like we were supposed to get a turtle last time? Or like in Gen VI when we were supposed to get something other than a zodiac rep anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:40:08 No.37526873 Report

Quoted By: >>37526886

>>37526869
>Or like in Gen VI when we were supposed to get something other than a zodiac rep anon?

Good thing we did. Sad that some people are too deluded to understand basic taxonomy, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:42:02 No.37526880 Report

Quoted By: >>37527014

>>37526859
see >>37526712
Nezumi means both mouse and rat, and is often used to refer to rodents in general.

>>37526866
That's used only for the Zodiac sign. The actual animal is 鼠.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:43:07 No.37526886 Report

Quoted By: >>37527015

>>37526873
see
>>37526542

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:47:42 No.37526905 Report

Quoted By: >>37526933 >>37527096

>>37525829
which isn't where the term canine comes from
if people don't consider pure wolves as dogs, why would a fox be a dog?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:53:14 No.37526933 Report

Quoted By: >>37527014

>>37526905
net you gonna say torchic isn't a chicken because baby chicks don't have a head plum and that charizard isn't a dragon because its a salamandar right? way to nitpick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 05:57:09 No.37526941 Report

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>>37525839
Can’t wait for my fire/fighting snake

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 06:15:26 No.37527014 Report

Quoted By: >>37527015 >>37527045 >>37527051

>>37526880
Chinese actually

>>37526933
Foxes aren't dogs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 06:15:44 No.37527015 Report

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>>37527014
>>37526886

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Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 06:20:21 No.37527045 Report

Quoted By: >>37527077 >>37527078

>>37527014
and salamandars aren't dragons
totem poles are not chickens
hogs are not pigs. neither are boars.
etc
yet only at VI you cared about the small details. was it because delphox was the final straw?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 06:21:12 No.37527051 Report

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>>37527014
>Chinese actually
But we're talking about Japanese.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 06:25:13 No.37527075 Report

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They became based on the fire zodiac from gen 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 06:25:34 No.37527077 Report

Quoted By: >>37527125

>>37527045
>hogs are not pigs. neither are boars.
They literally are.
>and salamandars aren't dragons
But Charizard is
>totem poles are not chickens
epic

>yet only at VI you cared about the small details. was it because delphox was the final straw?
A fox not being a dog isn't a small detail, they just aren't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 06:25:51 No.37527078 Report

Quoted By: >>37527103 >>37527125

>>37527045
Not really, the fact you see nezumi mental gymnastics here show it has been a fault since Gen 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 06:29:28 No.37527096 Report

Quoted By: >>37527101

>>37526905
They're also caninae.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 06:30:42 No.37527101 Report

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>>37527096
No they aren't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 06:31:00 No.37527103 Report

Quoted By: >>37527338

>>37527078
>nezumi mental gymnastics
the word literally means rat

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 06:32:49 No.37527113 Report

Quoted By: >>37527122

>>37525818
Oh, for FUCKS SAKE NO. THEY AREN'T, THATS JUST SOME DUMB SHIT SOME FUCKING RETARD MADE UP! THE REAL QUESTION IS, WHY ARE YOU SO STUPID FOR BELIEVING THAT SHIT OR EVEN WONDERING IF IT WAS TRUE FOR THAT MATTER!?

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Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 06:36:03 No.37527122 Report

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>>37527113
Oops, for got to add something.
RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 06:36:10 No.37527125 Report

Quoted By: >>37528004

>>37527077
>wolves and foxes aren't dogs
>hogs and boars are literly pigs

>cyndaquil doesn't count as a mouse in china so is out
>charizard is a dragon in the west so is safe

OK

>>37527078
the nezumi was a stale excuse which they fought it would suffice at the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 07:02:36 No.37527212 Report

Quoted By: >>37527223 >>37527336

Why do people complain about this theory? Literally 5 of starters match the zodiac. The other two can be considered stretches but are close enough to be what they're supposed to represent.

That's like saying Incineroar isn't exactly a tiger because it stands on two legs, or Emboar isn't supposed to represent the pig because it's named after the boar.

We still have to take into account creative liberty too. Even then, if you're still not willing to except that, anti-zodiac nitpicking those 2 designs can be considered an exception to the rule.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 07:04:45 No.37527223 Report

Quoted By: >>37527336

>>37527212
>Why do people complain about this theory?
Because back in gen 4 you could still argue it was a coincidence and these people are unwilling to accept they were wrong 10 years ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 07:40:35 No.37527336 Report

Quoted By: >>37527341

>>37527223
>typhlosion

>>37527212
the stretch already came as early as gen 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 07:41:39 No.37527338 Report

Quoted By: >>37527344

>>37527103
and japan has a retarded meaning on nezumi, your point? it is why people would laugh when the species is different put zodiacfags would pull it in because "muh different meanings" despite being otherwise

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 07:43:13 No.37527341 Report

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>>37527336
typhlosion evolves from a rat...

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Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 07:44:15 No.37527344 Report

Quoted By: >>37527394

>>37527338
>durr hurr why is it relevant that game freak speaks a language where rat and rodent are the same word
dumb chink

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 07:53:43 No.37527362 Report

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>>37526119
Nezumi mean both rat and mouse anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 08:06:52 No.37527394 Report

Quoted By: >>37527476

>>37527344
>uses Chinese zodiac which are specific species
>not use its words and animals

You are fox are dogs levels of retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 08:42:22 No.37527476 Report

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>>37527394
charizard isn't a dragon in china. why didn't you point THAT out?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 10:11:43 No.37527658 Report

Quoted By: >>37527707 >>37528890

I just realized.. can they even do a cow/bull starter?
Cows are explicitly female and bulls are male, look at how GF had to deal with Taurus and Milktank as two separate Pokémon.
If GF did a bull starter, would it be 100% male, or the usual 87% but the female version would have sexual dimorphism, the first time a starter would have?
Or would they make their first 100% female starter if they went with the cow?
I’m having difficulty imagining something like that.
>inb4 they can use something from bovidae xDD

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 10:27:35 No.37527707 Report

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>>37527658
it would be nice if all 3 starters had such gender difrances. it could be part of the niche of the gen.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 10:33:16 No.37527720 Report

Quoted By: >>37527738 >>37527759

Hey guys, just sharing a cute pic of my dog

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 10:38:31 No.37527738 Report

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>>37527720
nice caniform! My favorite dog is my badger.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 10:46:57 No.37527759 Report

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>>37527720
can your dog do this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 12:08:29 No.37528004 Report

Quoted By: >>37528025

>>37527125
Pig describes an entire genus, dog only a single subspecies, so yes, boars are literally pigs retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 12:16:39 No.37528025 Report

Quoted By: >>37528033

>>37528004
dogs are literly domesticated canines.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 12:19:13 No.37528033 Report

Quoted By: >>37528050

>>37528025
No, dogs are domesticated wolves. Silver foxes are not dogs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 12:24:52 No.37528050 Report

Quoted By: >>37528563

>>37528033
prove that anchient humans cared enough to difriante 'wolves' 'foxes' 'hyenes' 'jackals' etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 15:10:15 No.37528563 Report

Quoted By: >>37528579

>>37528050
How is this relevant?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 15:16:27 No.37528579 Report

Quoted By: >>37528593 >>37528603 >>37528608 >>37528623

>>37528563
it means that our assumption of anchient humans befriending wolfs rely on their concept of wolves. they could have domistacted other canines, considering how dogs look like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 15:19:50 No.37528593 Report

Quoted By: >>37528632

>>37528579
But we know that they didn't because dogs are genetically the same species as wolves....

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 15:22:52 No.37528603 Report

Quoted By: >>37528632

>>37528579
this is just plain incorrect. Dogs are descendant to wolves, this is fact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 15:25:03 No.37528608 Report

Quoted By: >>37528632

>>37528579
>this is what zodiacfags actually believe

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 15:25:24 No.37528609 Report

Quoted By: >>37528621

You can’t really deny it because we haven’t had a fire starter that is drastically a different animal

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 15:28:08 No.37528621 Report

Quoted By: >>37528634 >>37528638

>>37528609

This

If we got like an elephant or something that doesn’t fit or reach the zodiac animals, then we can finally put it at rest

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 15:28:54 No.37528623 Report

Quoted By: >>37528632

>>37528579
Dogs are genetically the same as grey wolves.
One indigenous group in Mexico had "dogs" that were descended from coyotes, but those are extinct now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 15:31:54 No.37528632 Report

Quoted By: >>37528637 >>37528640

>>37528593
>>37528603
>>37528608
>>37528623
fine fine, dogs are decedent of wolves only. this still doesn't mean foxes aren't close enough to them in general appearance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 15:32:35 No.37528634 Report

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>>37528621
Zodiacfags will just claim it's a bull like they think foxes are dogs and echidnas/weasels/badgers are rats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 15:33:26 No.37528637 Report

Quoted By:

>>37528632
I completely agree that foxes are dog-like enough. It's certainly relevant that the semantic component of the kanji for fox is dog.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 15:33:27 No.37528638 Report

Quoted By:

>>37528621
>elephant
>class: mammalia
>ox
>class: mammalia
>two large, powerful quadrupedal herbivores with a distinct taxonomic link that ancient people used as beasts of burden
Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and say if we get an elephant, zodiac is confirmed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 15:33:54 No.37528640 Report

Quoted By: >>37528654

>>37528632
The Chinese zodiac doesn't say "anything that kinda sorta looks like a dog" it says fucking dog.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 15:36:39 No.37528654 Report

Quoted By: >>37528669

>>37528640
yet you had no problem with torchic being a rooster

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 15:39:54 No.37528669 Report

Quoted By: >>37528687

>>37528654
Good point, zodiacfags arr even more deluded than I thought.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 15:42:33 No.37528687 Report

Quoted By:

>>37528669
all fire starter so far need some atistic liberty, which is why fox still fits with the general theme of the zodiac.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 16:16:24 No.37528868 Report

Quoted By:

>>37525995
Dude they're both mammals it counts

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Feb 2019 16:20:33 No.37528890 Report

Quoted By:

>>37527658
Torchic has sexual dimorphism

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