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Literally HOW can you still defend gamefreak?

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 17:58:58 No.37714430 View View Reply Original Report

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Compare this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJuiTw6nk7A

And this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6dsxCfdZlk

To this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdA22Lh6Rwk

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:04:29 No.37714731 Report

Quoted By: >>37715059

>>37714430
>XC2 was made by 40 people because a good chunk of the staff was working on BotW
>DQ11 is the prime example of a high profile franchise getting the effort it deserves because the people involved give a shit
>Meanwhile Gamefreak
Every day I pray that an earthquake hits their HQ and they're forced to give the IP to a more competent company

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:05:35 No.37714791 Report

Quoted By: >>37715866 >>37719656

>>37714430
I know, right? This will be tha final nail in the coffin, and it will be trash, I guarantee it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:06:11 No.37714819 Report

Quoted By: >>37714858 >>37715005 >>37715023 >>37715094 >>37715198 >>37717563 >>37717813

>>37714430
Realism =/= good

It's like we're back in 2006 or some shit, when everybody said SotC was how every game should look. Complete insanity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:06:51 No.37714858 Report

Quoted By: >>37714948

>>37714819
Don't confuse realism with level of fidelity/detail and volume mate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:07:36 No.37714905 Report

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>>37714430
Okay but what's with the giant bird thing and the smaller Mononoke Hime guys?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:08:23 No.37714948 Report

Quoted By: >>37715042 >>37715129

>>37714858
We get it, everything has to be hyper-detailed or it's total shit. How about I save us some time and just summarize this thread in one image?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:09:11 No.37714978 Report

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>>37714430
We don’t defend gamefreak. It’s horrible, the games are not worthy to be on the switch. Compared to Zelda and odyssey. They would laugh at gamefreak lol. Is this for switch? Of for the ds?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:09:14 No.37714983 Report

Quoted By: >>37715109

I think you're a retard that doesn't understand that you can exclude content in trailers. They probably hid most of the animations/models. They're also really picky on footage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:09:37 No.37715005 Report

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>>37714819
>Realism =/= good
>not a single one of the examples look remotely realistic
Way to shoot yourself in the foot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:09:43 No.37715008 Report

Quoted By: >>37715209 >>37715391

>>37714430
Yet none of the games have over 900 unique designs hahaha or over 800 abilities

Yikess

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:09:54 No.37715023 Report

Quoted By: >>37715582

>>37714819
>realism
>when all 3 of those games are anime-style
Stop being a fucking retard, please. The detail is not the only thing that pokemon is severely lacking. Maybe look at the sense of exploration you get in each of these games. Just like SM we're getting a railroaded tour instead of an adventure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:10:19 No.37715042 Report

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>>37714948
Now you're just jumping the shark big time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:10:32 No.37715055 Report

Quoted By: >>37715232

>pokemon will never even have 20% of the effort put into it that DQ does, despite selling 5x more

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:10:37 No.37715059 Report

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>>37714731
Lol i agree. But not the earthquake part. Just look at pokken tournament, Bandai did a great job!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:11:30 No.37715094 Report

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>>37714819

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:11:44 No.37715109 Report

Quoted By: >>37715602

>>37714983
Using the same 3d pikachu model from x and y isn't a good sign.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:12:06 No.37715125 Report

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>>37714430
First 2 vids the character models look like SHIT

>Dragon Quest and Zelda look better because MOUNTAINS

fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:12:12 No.37715129 Report

Quoted By: >>37715261

>>37714948
the reason the old thing was good is because they were on fucking handhelds

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:12:14 No.37715131 Report

Quoted By: >>37715642 >>37716930 >>37717588

>m-muh realism

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:12:58 No.37715169 Report

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I would like a proper open world game, but at this point it's obviously not going to happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:13:36 No.37715198 Report

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>>37714819
>XC2
>DQ11
>Realism

Retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:13:52 No.37715208 Report

Quoted By: >>37715346 >>37717673

>>37714430
DQ looks like shit, though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:13:51 No.37715209 Report

Quoted By: >>37715283

>>37715008
I'm pretty sure you've already been refuted on this regurgitated point you keep bringing up but they've been using the same models since XY you retarded apologist.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:14:18 No.37715232 Report

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>>37715055

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:14:55 No.37715261 Report

Quoted By: >>37715447 >>37715626 >>37715658

>>37715129
Now we can charge 60 dollars for slightly better graphics and copy paste 3d models

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:14:57 No.37715264 Report

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>>37714430
not everything is about graphics. But I agree Monolith made a good work with XC2 in just 2 years

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:15:19 No.37715283 Report

Quoted By: >>37715312

>>37715209
Nothing wrong with reusing good models

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:15:27 No.37715291 Report

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Black and White will forever be the best looking Pokemon games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:15:56 No.37715312 Report

Quoted By: >>37715391

>>37715283
Which makes your point completely moot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:16:33 No.37715346 Report

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>>37715208
Nobody has ever said this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:17:46 No.37715391 Report

Quoted By: >>37715582

>>37715312
I'm not >>37715008
There is literally nothing wrong with reusing good models, and Pokemon doesn't need to be hyper-realistic, you're just looking for things to bitch about

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:19:08 No.37715447 Report

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>>37715261
utter state of pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:22:13 No.37715574 Report

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>>37714430
Yeah I agree, especially when pokemon makes more money than both of those IPs combined. It's really sad that Gamefreak is soo lazy. It's even sadder that people will defend any and everything they do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:22:21 No.37715582 Report

Quoted By: >>37715670 >>37715743

>>37715391
see >>37715023
And just to spell things out since it's obvious you're a blithering retard, I don't have a problem with them reusing the models. It'd be asinine to redo them every gen. It just doesn't make sense to use "900+ pokemon models!" as an excuse to make the rest of the game mediocre when clearly it shouldn't even be factored into the workload in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:22:48 No.37715602 Report

Quoted By: >>37715877

>>37715109
You also have to consider that it probably took too damn long to figure out Nintendo's fisher price hardware. I highly doubt they're going to remodel 700+ Pokemon all over again to get that lively animated feel from Genius Sonority, another company that is probably too expensive to utilize. You have to make another story from scratch, new character designs, new pokemon designs AND model everything out with textures. Seems a lot of damn work to consistently update a game every two years doesn't it? And here we have breath of the wild that was made in five years, and even that looks simple as fuck and empty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:23:17 No.37715626 Report

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>>37715261
This is why I pirate

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:23:33 No.37715642 Report

Quoted By: >>37717735

>>37715131
People are talking about the places (or lack of) you can walk you idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:23:52 No.37715658 Report

Quoted By: >>37715811

>>37715261
Isn't that just smash ultimate?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:24:11 No.37715670 Report

Quoted By: >>37715699 >>37721348

>>37715582
Then quit bitching about them reusing models

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:24:42 No.37715699 Report

Quoted By: >>37715916

>>37715670
Yeah, you're terminally retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:25:35 No.37715743 Report

Quoted By: >>37715928

>>37715582
how is a game you never played mediocre? We don't even know this gen's gimmicks or the possibility of a difficulty mode

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:26:48 No.37715808 Report

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Well I mean, if you were a coder for game freak, would you choose to spend a shitton of time and money, or minimal effort? Games like DQ won't sell without some really nice graphics, especially in the West. It's just capitalism. The games are shit, but in the end you take it or leave it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:26:57 No.37715811 Report

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>>37715658
Smash ultimate uses all new models.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:28:07 No.37715866 Report

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>>37714791
You said that with the last gen. And the gen before that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:28:15 No.37715877 Report

Quoted By: >>37716049

>>37715602
No it doesnt seem like a lot of work because I expect game developers to work as hard as I do for my money. I'm not a ball washing fanboy like you. If I'm paying 60 bucks I expect a quality product not copy and paste shit from 8 years ago, removal of mechanics everyone liked, and the same formula they were using when it was 30 bucks. Eat shit idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:29:06 No.37715916 Report

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>>37715699
I suppose you'd know, right? Nice dubs, faggot. Now fuck off my board.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:29:25 No.37715928 Report

Quoted By: >>37717793

>>37715743
In terms of exploration, there wasn't a single map that didn't look like a linear hallway. There's also the fixed camera. The battle animations that still aren't as good as the previous console stadium games. The PS2 textures. Everything about the trailer screamed subpar.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:32:03 No.37716049 Report

Quoted By: >>37716330

>>37715877
I'm no ballwashing fanboy. It's called understanding that modeling and animating isn't some ungabunga easy task that can be done in a year. Yeah I can complain too, because I don't want to spend 60 dollars on a copy and paste, but starting right off the bat you're the whiner complaining about it looking cheap. Sounds to me you're just ignorant

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:38:52 No.37716330 Report

Quoted By: >>37717780

>>37716049
>it cant be done in a year
How about 6 years? The only reason to be using the same old 3d models is laziness and understanding that fanboys will eat it up anyway. It looks like a handheld game on a console and double the price.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 18:51:50 No.37716930 Report

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>>37715131
DQ's landscapes are vibrant as fuck, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 19:14:38 No.37717563 Report

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>>37714819
You're smoking fucking crack if you think Xenoblade and Dragon Quest games look realistic

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 19:15:12 No.37717588 Report

Quoted By:

>>37715131
Now fix the crappy mountains in the back and the trees.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 19:16:57 No.37717673 Report

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>>37715208
Underage contrarian GF shill confirmed

Dragon Quest VIII and XI are among the best looking games for their times, and the sprite games look damn good too

The only iffy DQ games visually are IX and the VII remake

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 19:18:22 No.37717735 Report

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>>37715642
game's not out yet.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 19:19:12 No.37717780 Report

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>>37716330
The models look great, though. If you look at their polygon counts they're pretty high up there. You could the textures could use updating, but the models themselves are fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 19:19:25 No.37717793 Report

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>>37715928
>linear hallway.
No, it looks like the UK, which it's based on. You slow?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 19:19:50 No.37717813 Report

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>>37714819
None of those games look realistic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 19:22:55 No.37717962 Report

Quoted By: >>37718615

I'm not saying I'm happy with the visual style that SS is taking, as it really just looks like an up scaled S/M. But we should really just wait until the full game is released to see how the overall game looks, instead of critiquing trailer footage.

Lily

Lily Wed 27 Feb 2019 19:33:00 No.37718384 Report

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>>37714430
I don't think it looks that bad. The environments have a good amount of detail.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 19:38:34 No.37718615 Report

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>>37717962
Those two trailers are also announcement trailers, it would be unfair if OP posted the launch trailers instead where the build of the game is finished.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 19:53:06 No.37719219 Report

Quoted By: >>37719936

>>37714430
Like Link's Awakening, this was a obviously a 3DS game that got Switched.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 20:00:36 No.37719537 Report

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>>37714430
you're expecting too much from a fucking pokemon game of all things

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 20:03:28 No.37719656 Report

Quoted By:

>>37714791
Oh well if you guarantee then it must be so
Trash

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 20:06:14 No.37719756 Report

Quoted By: >>37720244

But anon, the two games you showed have ugly art styles. Why be a contrarian for no reason?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 20:11:09 No.37719936 Report

Quoted By: >>37720085 >>37720940

>>37719219
You are legit retarded if you think that LA remake could have ever run on a 3DS in any form.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 20:14:52 No.37720085 Report

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>>37719936
What? It looks exactly like A Link Between Worlds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 20:18:34 No.37720244 Report

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>>37719756
And you think the pokemon game has good art direction? With its cringy faux-fantasy steampunk aesthetics? Lol, you really are beyond cucked

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 20:36:11 No.37720940 Report

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>>37719936
Aside from upgraded lighting there's really nothing shown that looks different from 3DS quality.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Feb 2019 20:47:16 No.37721348 Report

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>>37715670
Reusing models isn't the problem. The problem is that they aren't building off them. Like okay, you saved yourself the work of having to make each individual Pokemon again - cool. How about now you re-purpose some of that newfound free time into adding more detail to the models, or giving them lively fucking animations so that they look like actual fucking creatures and not dolls. At this point we should have idle animations that have personality and emotion. Instead we have fuckin stare into the blank voice with arms at the side Pikachu waiting for a command. Literally have hum sittingd own scratching his ear with hit foot or something, looking around, running in circles, WHATEVER. MAKE IT FEEL LIKE A FUCKING 2019 GAME. THIS IS THE HIGHEST GROSSING FRANCHISE ON THE FUCKING PLANET, PUT SOME HEART INTO IT.

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