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Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 08:38:07 No.37959096 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>37959110 >>37959536 >>37960230 >>37960267

>a total stat of 780
>air lock to negate weather effects
>can only mega evolve by learning the strongest flying type move
>meaning it can hold items such as life orb
Yeah that seems fair

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 08:41:59 No.37959110 Report

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>>37959096
>Not as broken in Doubles
>Banned in Singles
Seems fair to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 10:09:05 No.37959536 Report

Quoted By: >>37960239 >>37960249

>>37959096
And yet it gets BTFO by golduck

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 10:16:23 No.37959565 Report

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Yet, in spite of that, the only thing that really breaks it in singles is losing 3 weaknesses due to its ability.
Offensively and defensively, it's not something Ubers hasn't seen before.

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Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 12:13:32 No.37960021 Report

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Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 12:54:47 No.37960230 Report

Quoted By: >>37960276

>>37959096
>Happiny used icy wind

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Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 12:57:12 No.37960239 Report

Quoted By: >>37960321 >>37960487 >>37962566

>>37959536
>252+ SpA Golduck Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Rayquaza-Mega: 348-412 (99.1 - 117.3%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
Not a guaranteed counter
Also, it can't hold a LO/specs or else Fug outspeeds it

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Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 12:58:33 No.37960249 Report

Quoted By: >>37961868

>>37959536
Golduck is slower and can't take even an unboosted Dragon Ascent

You're full of shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 13:00:28 No.37960267 Report

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>>37959096
>180 for both atk and spatk, meaning it's not that as great as it could be in both
>below 120 spd
>flying type

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Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 13:01:27 No.37960276 Report

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>>37960230
>Mega Rayquaza used Extreme Speed
>Mega Rayquaza outspeeds and uses literally anything

And before you say focus sash, he can use one too, both would be as equally retarded as eachother

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Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 13:07:39 No.37960321 Report

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>>37960239
Delta Stream halves the damage.

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Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 13:29:40 No.37960451 Report

Quoted By: >>37960474 >>37960614 >>37962580 >>37962649 >>37962852

What more does Necrozma need to join Rayquaza in AG?

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Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 13:33:05 No.37960474 Report

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>>37960451
Not having to hold a z krystal to use it's big attack
learn extreme speed

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Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 13:34:28 No.37960487 Report

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>>37960239
I used to beat both it and primal groudon used by battlespot fuckbois with a specs Lickylicky

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Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 13:49:04 No.37960579 Report

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>>37960321
The calc takes stream into account

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Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 13:53:51 No.37960611 Report

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>>37960321
>>37960579

The cloud nine ability negates delta stream

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 13:54:34 No.37960614 Report

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>>37960451
The +1 totem boost when it enters battle

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Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 16:05:46 No.37961868 Report

Quoted By: >>37962527 >>37962598

>>37960249
>what is choice scarf

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Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 16:55:31 No.37962527 Report

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>>37961868
>what is Dragon Dance

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Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 16:59:27 No.37962566 Report

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>>37960239
It’s not a counter at all, it’s a check. It absolutely cannot switch in and can only handle Mega Fug if it hasn’t boosted.

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Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 17:00:35 No.37962580 Report

Quoted By: >>37962649

>>37960451
This thing didn’t get banned in the end? I thought smogon was suspecting it

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Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 17:02:12 No.37962598 Report

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>>37961868
>Fug predicts Golduck switch in
>Uses Dragon Dance
>Sweeps entire team.

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Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 17:06:24 No.37962649 Report

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>>37960451
>>37962580
It needs to be better than its base form of a lion. It also needs to be more centralizing than primal groudon

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Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 17:14:07 No.37962741 Report

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>>37960487
>252+ SpA Choice Specs Lickilicky Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Rayquaza-Mega: 464-548 (132.1 - 156.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>252+ Atk Life Orb Rayquaza-Mega Dragon Ascent vs. 4 HP / 252 Def Lickilicky: 292-344 (80.6 - 95%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

>252+ SpA Choice Specs Lickilicky Surf vs. 0 HP / 100 SpD Groudon-Primal: 456-540 (133.7 - 158.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>252+ Atk Groudon-Primal Precipice Blades vs. 4 HP / 252 Def Lickilicky: 225-265 (62.1 - 73.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 17:23:33 No.37962852 Report

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>>37960451
Make Ultra Burst not require Photon Geyser+ UltraNecrozium, but still keep the requirement to be DM/DW first for set up
Imagine Ultra pulling off the Stored Power set for example

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