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Gen II, Crystal especially, has this atmosphere and je ne sais quoi where I can just sit in a town and do absolutely nothing, and just appreciate the deceptively complex 8 bit whimsical tunes (Masuda's craft, before he became Public Enemy No 1), and the simple yet charming graphics (little things like the character sprites that were as bright as the lights in the nighttime). Everything is low key, barebones and yet somehow draws you in and makes you want to investigate further, rather than being forced into endless Saturday morning cartoon dialogue and plot like the games past Gen II. You actually WANT to talk to npcs, and often are rewarded for your initiative. Rarely do you get handouts or get spoonfed. The lore is also hidden away, which makes it even more desirable. the legendaries feel rare, mystical and powerful, like when you encounter one of the beasts in an unassuming patch of grass full of shitmons, or work your way up or down a maze (which you had to discover yourself) to reach one of the box legends, waiting in front of you, no fanfare, for you to challenge them. The limited graphics made things seem larger than life, as it encouraged your imagination. These games had a LOT of design flaws, and subsequent games aren't bad by any means. but I'd love for another pokemon game, one day to strip back all the fluff and just do another low stakes, simple pokemon adventure. The rom hacks don't do much for me, as most just shove their asinine plot
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>>38018730 It's called nostalgia, anon.
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>>38018730 Lightning in a bottle. Don't know if that's the exact proper usage for this phrase, but GF just managed to hit the absolute right spots in Gen 2 in some inexplicable, mysterious way.
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>>38018730 Your opinion is shit. I will ban you if you disagree with me.
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>>38018730 The aesthetic is truly something else. Sadly everything else is below par.
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>>38018730 I've played Crystal for the first time a few months ago and felt nothing like this.
It's probably just nostalgia, anon.
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>>38018738 Actually the correct word is "saudade"
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Because they let you go and get it. Reverse psychology works like this. Force somebody to do/like something and they'll dislike it. This is the problem with new games. They're constantly trying to make you like things, characters, music, Pokemon... While gen 2 didn't do that. They built a world and let you deal with it.
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It'd actually be fun if Pokemon made new 8-bit esque releases. Not actually limited by the hardware constraints, it'd be nice to see what a modern machine can do with this aesthetic:>easily fit every single pokemon and form with Crystal-tier animations >modern stat and damage formulas can stay >higher number of trainer classes, each with at least 2 palette swaps except unique characters >you still get a degree of MC customization, albeit limited to palettes and a few outfit variations >more map variety, able to expand on dungeons and include weather/season effects Given we're still getting symbolic attacks as far as the Switch, there wouldn't be a meaningful visual downgrade either way.
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>>38018738 >>38018801 >nostalgia meme This has never been true.
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>>38018862 Yikes and oofpilled
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>>38018730 >je ne sais quoi Stopped reading there. Stop speaking like a sissy, faggot
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I like the post anon. The graphics of this gen were indeed extremely comfy.
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>>38018730 More like New FART Town!
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>>38018744 >>38018811 Quite literally this, like gen 2 was really something special and it fucking blows my mind that gf cant recapture this with theyre recent titles like is it it so hard to see what you did well back then and just try to somehow replicate that? its such a good idea and yet it will most likely never happen ever again
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THE LIGHTS STAY ON IN THE BUILDINGS AT NIGHT WOW COMFYYYYY
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>>38019936 I made this joke once too and I got so many people calling me based, felt so good.
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>>38018811 >>38019999 They're not trying to recapture, they're actively avoiding it because everyone gives them shit for obtusely hiding all the new stuff away. And rightfully so.
Gen 2 fucking sucks and all this talk of "muh comfy, muh atmospheric gameboy pixels" is some blatant nostalgia masturbation.
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>>38020065 Obtusely? oh no I have to out of my way to play the vidya game!
Anon you cant be this retarded, gen 2 actually felt like a game but most of the current titles are just hand holding movies you dont feel like your a trainer going on an adventure your just being lead around at an amusement park, stop this shit nonsense of saying the old games were obtuse because they werent
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>>38020133 >I have to out of my way to play the vidya game! Yeah, let's have all new Pokemon be locked behind 1% encounters on new routes. Alola did this with 5% encounters and people complained, why not complain about Johto?
Let's have new Pokemon be locked behind the postgame with a 5% encounter rate at 30 levels below your team. Sounds fun as fuck.
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>>38020065 This
>>38020133 While some stuff needs to be front and center, having everything handed,to you on a silver platter is too far in the other direction. There's no joy in finding a rare item or pokemon when your NPC tour guide walls off every other path and tells you to check it out.
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>>38020180 Nobody's asking for Pokemon games to be guided like that. Alola is universally shit on for that. People are asking for new Pokemon to be front and center, because the creature collection is the main appeal to the franchise for most people.
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>>38018730 I agree, Gen 2 is kino. I tend to replay Crystal over HGSS. The only flaw is the lack of Mareep for some baffling reason.
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>>38020065 >everyone gives them shit for obtusely hiding all the new stuff away No, that's just vp's nugenners trying to find a reason to bitch over the most popular gens.
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>>38020180 >While some stuff needs to be front and center Nothing new in gen 2 was front and center beyond the starters and legendaries.
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>>38018808 só o que falta tu ser BR, anon.
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>>38020170 >moving the goal post Are you even trying?
>Oh no some pokemon I havent seen nor know about are at the halfway point of the game The point still comes back to exploration gen 2 felt like and adventure, A journey and thats what made it great, just because a few mons that at the time no one knew about are at the second part of the game doesnt make it bad
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When will retards understand that slapping new things on your face wasn't a thing back then? Tajiri didn't give a fuck, no one did the trend started with masuda
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>>38020218 People bitch about Chimecho in RSE, Honey trees in DPP and things like Dhelmise and Mareanie in SM.
Why is it not an argument when applied to gen 2, which did it worst of all?
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>>38020273 Who fucking knows, anon? People think GSC are some kind of flawless gen.
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>>38020258 >gen 2 felt like and adventure It really didn't. You were just a kid back then.
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>>38020258 It felt like an adventure across two of the most empty regions in the entire franchise.
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>>38020228 And I'm not trying to say gen 2 was perfect
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>>38020302 Except even now when I go back to play it, its the same thing its still one of the best games just for the feeling of exploration alone, the point is that pokemon is supposed to feel like a journey across the land to become a champion and catch pokemon and gen 2 succeeds at capturing that feeling in spades, but the most recent games fail at doing this in every way thats why I said if they just replicate some of the things gen 2 did right then I feel that the new titles would definitely benefit from that, its not rocket science anon
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>>38018738 I came here to post this
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>>38020352 And when I go back and play it, it feels like an empty experience with routes so small and barren it feels more like a walk in the park or a casual stroll through the mountain side, not an arduous journey or adventure. Ironically, the problems people cite from Alola are present in Johto in spades.
The less new game try to replicate Johto, the better.
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The music was not as memorable as Pallet Town or Littleroot though
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>>38018730 I remember that. There was a feeling I got from gen 2 specifically that I can't describe. Something about the cozy woodland aesthetic is had going, maybe? Something about the first wave of new Pokemon or the addition of colors? Maybe all the brown and green? It all felt like a short of camping trip. Maybe it was just how it synced with that time in my life, playing in a forest during a nice summer day.
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>>38018738 Why don't people just admit to their nostalgia for the games of yore? Does it leave them feeling defeated or something? Is nostalgia a bad thing? I don't get the internet sometimes.
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>je ne sais quoi i don’t know what this means. speak english
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>>38020540 A lot of people are afraid to admit that things they like might not be as good as they remember, or that their first memories of something will be taken away if they somehow admit they aren't great.
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>>38018730 Personally I think it's the music mostly but also the colors used. It also had other shit like the lake of rage and they've never topped the holy fuck factor of going to another region. I don't think gf needs to take us to another region but it set the bar way too high and they have never tried to come close to it again. Battle Frontier/ PWT was close though imo.
The one thing I will never fucking understand is why they took out the giant safari zone
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>>38018730 Reckon it was the minimalist graphics allowed us as kids to make our own world. Music helped too.
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>>38020578 So in their opinions saying they have nostalgic feelings for old games means that said old games were probably bad? I've been openly saying things like "Ah, I wish x new game invoked the same feeling as y game from the past" for years now. I've never felt as if I were "admitting defeat" or saying y game was shit or whatever—just that I want x new game to make me feel the same way that y game made me feel in the past.
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>>38020645 I think the lack of a Safari zone was purely due to space issues. Same reason the games were missing pokemon tower, mt. moon, viridian forest, etc. Hard to squeeze that many maps onto a cartridge.
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>>38018847 Sadly it will never happen, and that's a shame because often I wonder
>what if X franchise used older graphics and instead focused on expanding the things that matter? Like The Elder Scrolls with Morrowind graphics. And having cities worth a damn.
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so THIS is the power of nostalgia...
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>>38018730 based.
first and second gen were truly groundbreaking, kickstarting the series we all know and love, and establishing an entire franchise that would remain succesfull unto this very day.
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>>38018801 How old are you really? And i mean really?
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>>38020552 It is an English term
"An indefinable quality that makes something distinctive or attractive"
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>>38021002 Okay? Nobody said anything about Gen V. Stop letting it live rent free in your head.
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>>38020273 >People bitch about Chimecho in RSE, Honey trees in DPP and things like Dhelmise and Mareanie in SM. Only casuals bitch about this
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Personally gen 1 still gives the most nostalgia and magic
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>>38023182 I had never played a Gen 1 game until Platinum came out.
I admit it was a fucking shit game and holds absolutely no good value in my memory. I think GSC would be pretty much the same for those who play it now. I started with GS and I still love them though.
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>>38020540 "Nostaglia" is just the easy explanation for people with low intelligence who need a simple answer to calm their anxiety.
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>>38020645 >but it set the bar way too high and they have never tried to come close to it again. Battle Frontier/ PWT was close though imo. I think battle frontier met the other region in terms of 'holy shit' but I agree that those two events have never been met again.
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>>38019761 Triggered buttrocker.
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