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>>38047317

They were fag
Every game had exploration, but was still linear in your progression.

Your lying to yourself if your going to pretend you weren’t able to access a good chunk of the islands you visit in Alola
You were only restricted from trial sights

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Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2019 02:28:36 No.38047366 Report

Quoted By: >>38047401

>you will never have an unskippable cutscene free pokemon game ever again

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Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2019 02:29:52 No.38047375 Report

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>>38047351
Sure thing brah, everybody knows you're full of bullshit.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2019 02:30:14 No.38047380 Report

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>>38047351
>Want to stop by the beach to get a Sandygast when I get to the second island
>whoops, can't do that. stoutland is a sniffer haha

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Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2019 02:31:26 No.38047389 Report

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Post game was always non-linear though

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Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2019 02:32:50 No.38047401 Report

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>>38047366

>you will never have skippable text of main characters monologuing in 2D games

Seriously, gen 5 was terrible with this.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2019 02:42:20 No.38047497 Report

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Gen 5 was the only one that did it properly though since you had a good chunk of legends to find

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Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2019 02:43:40 No.38047511 Report

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>>38047323
Just replayed Gold and no. You after reaching Ecruteak and getting Surf, there's literally dozens of things and events to do in the order you want. I had a blast.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2019 04:33:52 No.38048321 Report

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>You NEVER enjoyed the sweet, sweet taste of a nonlinear pokemon adventure

You really believe being able to walk to the two next cities is "non-linearity"? Whenever a Pokémon game opened up too much, it was at the expense of a terrible level curve and poor pacing.
But sure, keep lying to yourself.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2019 04:41:30 No.38048360 Report

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>>38047323
The subplot(?) of Kanto has a linear progression, but the gyms aren't. The only ones with any special requirement are Brock, Blaine, and Blue requiring you complete that machine part quest before you can get to them.
>>38047511
The only thing you can actually do out of order in Johto is battle Pryce and do the Lake of Rage stuff early. Being able to backtrack to route who gives a fuck and surf across a pond for a quick claw isn't really significant given every game has that sort of thing, even Sun and Moon. If I'm remembering right, you could also go beyond that town and catch whatever you liked from around Blackthorn too, but HGSS removed that freedom.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2019 05:38:20 No.38048633 Report

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>>38047351
>You were only restricted from trial sights
Yes, that's why they had all of those gates locking away the next location behind the trial sites, right? To make sure the game was open?

Retard.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2019 05:45:00 No.38048663 Report

Quoted By: >>38048671

all poke games are linear and they're fine.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2019 05:47:05 No.38048671 Report

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>>38048663
You can be linear and still not railroad the player.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2019 05:47:26 No.38048675 Report

Quoted By: >>38048896 >>38049787

>>38048360
You can fight Pryce, Chuck and Jasmine and do all their shit in any order you want. Not quite as interesting as RBY where after Brock you can technically go through Mt.Moon and fight the next five gym leaders in any order you want.
Requires boxing a drink item in Stadium's storage box and transferring it over.

If you don't count that though, once you beat Lt.Surge you can go fight Koga, Sabrina, Blaine, and Erika in any order you want. Possibly Giovani as well, I can't remember if taking care of Celedon game corner, Pokemon Tower, and Silph co let you take him on or if it's getting seven badges.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2019 06:26:29 No.38048896 Report

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>>38048675
If I remember correctly
Brock: 1
Misty: 2
Lt. Surge: 3/4/5/6/7
Erika: 3/4/5/6/7
Koga: 3/4/5/6
Sabrina: 3/4/5/6/7
Blaine: 4/5/6/7
Giovanni: 8

with drink transfer from Stadium 2
Brock: 1
Misty: 2/3/4/5/6
Lt. Surge: 3/4/5/6/7
Erika: 3/4/5/6/7
Koga: 2/3/4/5/6
Sabrina: 2/3/4/5/6/7
Blaine: 3/4/5/6/7
Giovanni: 8

Falkner: 1
Bugsy: 2
Whitney: 3
Morty: 4
Chuck: 5/67
Jasmine: 5/67
Pryce: 5/6/7
Clair: 8
Kanto Gym Leaders: Any order

Roxanne: 1
Brawly: 2/3/4/5/6/7/8
Wattson: 2/3
Flannery: 3/4
Norman: 4/5
Winona: 5/6/7/8
Tate & Liza: 5/6/7
Wallace: 6/7/8

Roark: 1
Gardenia: 2
Maylene: 3/4 (3/4/5 in Platinum)
Crasher Wake: 3/4 (3/4/5 in Platinum)
Fantina: 5 (3/4/5 in Platinum)
Byron: 6
Candice: 7
Volkner: 8

Gen V and VI are a set order from what I remember, and everything in Alola is set in stone, and you can't do the Stadium 2 drink trick in FRLG. HGSS requires Green/Blue to be the last Kanto Gym Leader, and I didn't bother with ORAS or LGPE (though I heard that the latter is surprisingly lenient in Gym order).

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Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2019 07:13:47 No.38049106 Report

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>>38047287
>Johto
>non-linear

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Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2019 07:25:54 No.38049159 Report

Quoted By: >>38049264

>>38048896
>Wallace: 6/7/8
What? In order to enter Sootopolis you need Dive, and to use Dive you need T&L's badge.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2019 07:45:19 No.38049264 Report

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>>38049159
You can skip Brawly and Winona though and Tate & Liza can be fought as your fifth Gym Leaders.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2019 07:53:55 No.38049312 Report

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>>38049106
Kanto: Non-linear midgame, contains branching paths
Johto: Numerous optional "plot" areas of interest and non-linear post-game, contains branching paths
Hoenn: Branching midgame with optional backtracking
Sinnoh: Non-linear map with numerous optional HM sections, contains branching paths
Unova/Kalos: Linear map with areas of interest along the way
Alola: Linear minimaps with the odd optional area of zero interest

The Haina Desert was the most interesting optional side area in Gen VII, and it was still a chore to go through with the same Tapu Strength puzzle at the end

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Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2019 08:03:53 No.38049366 Report

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>>38048896
Skipping Brawly is pretty janky from what I remember, mainly because he's a lot less threatening than Wattson unless you're only using geodude or something. A lot of Team Magma/Aqua battles happen along those gyms so you outlevel him quickly. Skipping Winnona generally works out somewhat less terribly, but is inconvenient due to not being able to Fly.

Also, I'm fairly certain you're absolutely required to do Fantina 3rd, Maylene 4th, and Wake 5th in Platinum, since they reaffirmed the order.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2019 09:01:40 No.38049648 Report

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>>38047317
They were all linear. None of then really gave you a choice on where to go . And a pokemon cutscene is like in the losgest 3 or 4 mins and probably not even that

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Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2019 09:02:44 No.38049657 Report

Quoted By: >>38049700

>>38049648
those 3 mins pile up to 2 hours

speedruns prove it

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Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2019 09:08:05 No.38049684 Report

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>>38047287
Nah, we never had it and most realistically won't. It's like asking for a final fantasy with choices, a bioware game where your choices matter or a Bethesda game where fans don't have to fix bugs, it's not happening because it's not how the dev team think

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Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2019 09:09:53 No.38049700 Report

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>>38049657
>those 3 mins pile up to 2 hours
over a course of like 30-40 hours, it's barely anything

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Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2019 09:23:52 No.38049787 Report

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>>38048675
There is a grunt blocking the access to Sabrina which only disappear after you free the sylph building
Accessing surge, Erika and to some extent koga and Blaine require cut

You can play let's go if you like genwun so much but you're in for some serious disappointment

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Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2019 10:00:20 No.38049938 Report

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>>38047287
johto was linear, but still great because of the optional content going on. Nobody forced you to explore the caves, find hidden paths and so on

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Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2019 10:02:04 No.38049949 Report

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>>38049700
LMAO, 30 HOURS?

Speedruns take 4 hours

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