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Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 11:18:44 No.38091966 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>38091998 >>38092607 >>38092632 >>38092636 >>38092656 >>38092701 >>38092715 >>38093936 >>38094149

So I have to fucking suffer through the abysmal models because shitfreak don't want to improve their garbage assets since 2013?
6 years and not a single improvement on models or animations?
why are we giving them $60 + $60 + tips for?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 11:20:18 No.38091976 Report

Quoted By: >>38091983

Suffer? You're not suffering shit you whiny neckbeard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 11:21:14 No.38091983 Report

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>>38091976
>he doesn't play Pokemon games and sees the horrible and shit 3D models

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 11:24:23 No.38091997 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 11:24:45 No.38091998 Report

Quoted By: >>38092031 >>38092632

>>38091966
The models were made with the future in mind, brainlet. Each one has WAY more polygons than necessary for a 3DS game.
Besides, the models are fine. It's the animations that are fucking awful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 11:26:26 No.38092004 Report

Quoted By: >>38092041

The move to 3D was a mistake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 11:33:08 No.38092031 Report

Quoted By: >>38092590 >>38092598 >>38092773 >>38092778

>>38091998
>The models were made with the future in mind
every GF apologist say this but everytime I ask for a source/proof they go silent, can you do better?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 11:35:19 No.38092041 Report

Quoted By: >>38092560

>>38092004
Stadium, Coliseum, GoD, PBR, PSMD were great 3D games.
It's just Shitfreak is the mistake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 11:35:57 No.38092048 Report

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Models are salvageable if they improve/add more animations

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 13:27:59 No.38092560 Report

Quoted By: >>38094396

>>38092041
>PSMD
>great 3D

It used the dullest models with zero imagination or soul put into them.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 13:34:48 No.38092590 Report

Quoted By: >>38092633

>>38092031
literally just google
https://www.models-resource.com/3ds/pokemonultrasunultramoon/model/24594/

open them with blender or anything, here's U-Necrozma

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 13:36:34 No.38092598 Report

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>>38092031
bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 13:37:07 No.38092600 Report

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also
>gamefreak apologists

literally everyone is saying that

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 13:38:13 No.38092607 Report

Quoted By: >>38092616

>>38091966
Should've stuck with 2D Sprites, there was a step back from PtHGSS to BWB2W2 but given another generation they could get the stylization of the former with the animation of the latter. The 3D Models will never look good for some Pokemon however.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 13:39:31 No.38092616 Report

Quoted By: >>38092654 >>38092795

>>38092607
>The 3D Models will never look good for some Pokemon however.
Name 10
Keep in mind that all the gen 1-4 Pokemon looked great in the console games.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 13:43:09 No.38092632 Report

Quoted By: >>38092648

>>38091966
>>38091998

I bet the staff from Genius Sonority that got absorbed into GF protested they add a bit more life to the models. But Masuda wasn't having any of it and slapped them with Pikachu themed rulers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 13:43:12 No.38092633 Report

Quoted By: >>38092640 >>38092662 >>38092765

>>38092590
How does that prove that ShitFreak made the models to be future in mind?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 13:43:48 No.38092636 Report

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>>38091966
>why are we giving them $60 + $60 + tips
So they can put new models into the LGPE sequel and ignore the main series. Duh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 13:45:48 No.38092640 Report

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>>38092633
...do you understand how to read polygon count?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 13:46:49 No.38092648 Report

Quoted By: >>38092695

>>38092632
they actually do though, like Klefki's faint animation is very precious compared to some, problem is that they immediately pull out the pokemon rather than letting the animation run

but then you got the side problem of animations taking forever

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 13:47:51 No.38092654 Report

Quoted By: >>38092659 >>38093051

>>38092616
>gen 1-4 Pokemon
I disagree. Gen III and I guess IV (never played PBR) look fine, but some of the Stadium models look outdated and/or ugly. Venusaur, Pidgeot, Crobat, for example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 13:48:13 No.38092656 Report

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>>38091966
Game Freak doesn't make them, Creatures Inc does and made well above what was necessary for the 3DS. They are future-proofed in the sense that it'll be a long time before graphics advance far enough for them to start looking bad.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 13:48:58 No.38092659 Report

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>>38092654
Absolute nightmare fuel

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 13:49:33 No.38092662 Report

Quoted By: >>38092684

>>38092633
Looking at the fucking polygon count

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 13:52:28 No.38092684 Report

Quoted By: >>38092706 >>38092742

>>38092662
>muh theory
Put some actual proof, retard.
If there's no interview or tweet of Masuda proving that then the whole future proof meme is fake and gay just like you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 13:54:09 No.38092695 Report

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>>38092648
>then you got the side problem of animations taking forever
That was a real problem with some of the damaged animations like the one you replied to in my opinion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 13:55:10 No.38092701 Report

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>>38091966
You don’t have to suffer though, unless you’re a retarded basement dweller.
Keep whining.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 13:56:38 No.38092706 Report

Quoted By: >>38093669

>>38092684
Game companies resuse assets all the fucking time to save time, as there's no point making new models for characters whose designs never change

That'd be something you'd have to ask Creatures Inc. about though, since they're the ones who make the models for all Pokemon games (including spin-offs like Pokken and Smash)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 13:58:26 No.38092715 Report

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>>38091966
You know you don't have to buy them right? Please don't buy them if that's how you feel. Gamefreak are a load of shit lately really.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 14:03:46 No.38092742 Report

Quoted By: >>38093669

>>38092684
All it takes is not being a brainlet. All the models have way more polygons than they need, you just can't tell on the 3DS. That's why the game lags like shit in double battles and battle royals. Emulators like Citra show how the models really look.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 14:08:28 No.38092765 Report

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>>38092633
The fact they're still using them is proof enough.

Lily

Lily Mon 25 Mar 2019 14:09:54 No.38092773 Report

Quoted By: >>38093669

>>38092031
the poly count + the fact that they're still using them is proof enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 14:12:08 No.38092778 Report

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>>38092031
>every GF apologist say this
I wouldn't call criticizing the animations being a Gamefreak apologist. Especially when ORAS and LGPE were opportunities to update some of the animations that Gamefreak just ignored.

HotSauce

HotSauce Mon 25 Mar 2019 14:12:42 No.38092781 Report

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You want to hear a joke? Picking Squirtle

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 14:15:17 No.38092795 Report

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>>38092616
I can only name 2
Mr Mime and Sudowoodo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 15:00:53 No.38093051 Report

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>>38092654
That's just because they're old. They looked fine on the N64.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 16:49:42 No.38093669 Report

Quoted By: >>38093699 >>38093730 >>38093808

>>38092706
>>38092742
>>38092773
>please believe us, we are professional at analyzing how companies work on 3D assets
>no need for proof if you think like us lol
again, you are fake and gay if you don't have an actual proof.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 16:54:22 No.38093699 Report

Quoted By: >>38093742

>>38093669
https://www.creatures.co.jp/products/

Outsourced to Creatures Inc., who makes models for everything Pokemon-related

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 16:58:05 No.38093730 Report

Quoted By: >>38093742

>>38093669

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 16:59:58 No.38093742 Report

Quoted By: >>38093765

>>38093699
Which part of "proof that they made the models future proof" you have difficulty understanding?

>>38093730
Seething GF apologist cuck swinging so hard because he can't defend his shitty company.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 17:02:35 No.38093765 Report

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>>38093742
How am I a GF apologist when A.) GF has nothing to do with the models, and B.) I was actively shitting on the animations anyway?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 17:03:23 No.38093769 Report

Quoted By: >>38093786

Nobody forcing you to do shot. Don’t buy it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 17:05:27 No.38093786 Report

Quoted By: >>38093853

>>38093769
>reeeeeeeeeeeee if you don't like the 3D models don't buy the games because you have no right to complain against our childhood franchise
fags like you is the problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 17:08:20 No.38093808 Report

Quoted By: >>38093825 >>38093840

>>38093669
they've given you a lot of evidence m8. the absolute state of /vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 17:10:14 No.38093825 Report

Quoted By: >>38093869 >>38094352

>>38093808
>theories = proof
the aboslute state of GF apologists

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 17:11:56 No.38093840 Report

Quoted By: >>38093869

>>38093808
Just stop giving him (you)s.
He's either baiting or retarded. Either way not worth your time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 17:13:38 No.38093853 Report

Quoted By: >>38093869 >>38093937 >>38093960

>>38093786
Normally, when a franchise is no longer appealing to someone, they move on to a franchise that does have what they want.

If Pokemon doesn't appeal to you anymore, there's no reason to stick around, go play something else.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 17:15:15 No.38093865 Report

Quoted By: >>38093937

the problem is the washed out textures and lifeless animations

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 17:16:05 No.38093869 Report

Quoted By: >>38093937

>>38093825
>shows you how you can get switch-level graphics using an emulator
>aka having the future in mind
>it's just theories reeee
>>38093840
it's fun to egg these people on. pretending to be a retard with bait=actually being retarded
>>38093853
half this board should follow this advice

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 17:25:09 No.38093924 Report

Quoted By: >>38093937

because retards like vp and reddit keep buying their games with their moms money thinking it's hot shit. GameFreak has all of you by the fucking balls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 17:27:50 No.38093936 Report

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>>38091966
the models are fine for the most part, its just the actual animations and idle stances look like shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 17:28:01 No.38093937 Report

Quoted By: >>38094039

>>38093924
>>38093865
Found the problem bros.
>>38093869
>>38093853
Retards. Guess you think because it's adequate for retarded kids it's good enough? Never seen such this much apologetic shit in my life, GF really has hit the gold mine with these brain dead loyalist fans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 17:31:55 No.38093960 Report

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>>38093853
>If Pokemon doesn't appeal to you
Go fuck off to Reddit where everything is flawless, stupid.
just because I'm complaning about a specific thing doesn't mean the whole franchise isn't appealing to me.

God, why did you make all the retarded faggots on this planet the core fanbase of the franchise?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 17:43:33 No.38094039 Report

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>>38093937
>waaah i don't enjoy the games so you can't
cannot wait to purchase and enjoy sword and shield
cannot wait for it to sell record numbers so gamefreak can keep doing what they're doing
cannot wait for you to seeth even harder before killing yourself

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Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 18:00:08 No.38094149 Report

Quoted By: >>38094216

>>38091966
>Game developer reuses assets for an anime graphic that they want to preserve
>(You): "i'M sUfFeRiNg"
Imo you either didn't suffer enough as a child or suffer from severe autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 18:06:50 No.38094216 Report

Quoted By: >>38094252

>>38094149
>it's not bad reusing shit models instead of improving them
GF apologists you are hopeless beyond beliefs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 18:10:05 No.38094252 Report

Quoted By: >>38094261

>>38094216
Like they didn't improve them at all right? Do you really think they'd make a pokken type of models? Childrens wouldn't like them

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 18:11:05 No.38094261 Report

Quoted By: >>38094338

>>38094252
>improve them
when? they are the same models and animations from X/Y

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 18:22:58 No.38094338 Report

Quoted By: >>38094355 >>38094365

>>38094261
Make them better yourself then

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 18:24:48 No.38094352 Report

Quoted By: >>38094362

>>38093825
proof is only mathematical. they've given you enough evidence, take it or leave it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 18:25:10 No.38094355 Report

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>>38094338
>no u

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 18:26:20 No.38094362 Report

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>>38094352
Don't reply to then anymore. They are either baiting it too stupid to understand the proof.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 18:26:37 No.38094365 Report

Quoted By: >>38097497 >>38097557

>>38094338
>epic le reddit-tier response.
again, you are proving that GF apologists are retarded.

I would if I was working as a 3D modeler at Gamefreak, stupid.
If you enjoy any piece of poop with a pokemon logo on it thrown at you, then you are a pathetic NPC.
I have standards, unlike you, stupid NPC faggot.

Game companies listening to fans is a thing that most other companies do. Too bad for you, NPC, Gamefreak doesn't care about making quality games with effort because they know retarded morons like you will still buy it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 18:30:44 No.38094396 Report

Quoted By:

>>38092560
>Keldeo: Palkia are you ok?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 20:38:43 No.38095530 Report

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There is literally absolutely nothing wrong with the Pokemon models and anyone who claims otherwise is retarded. What needs improvement is the animation, the models are completely fine and changing them would be a massive waste if resources.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2019 00:11:24 No.38097497 Report

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>>38094365
>NPC
Life is not a game, you're autistic. You're used to being called that but rn I SERIOUSLY think you are one

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2019 00:18:32 No.38097557 Report

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>>38094365
>NPC
God, are people still forcing this stale meme?

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