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Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 22:51:51 No.38096799 View View Reply Original Report

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>Freeze Shock now works like an Ice-type Bolt Strike, 130 BP 85% Accuracy
>Also gets Earthquake and Superpower

Don't know why would Game Freak make Kyurem's signature moves so shitty compared to the ones from Zekrom/Reshiram

Now, how good would it be in Ubers? Because Icicle Crash literally could push it already

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 22:54:01 No.38096826 Report

Quoted By: >>38096912

probably pretty average with no real setup moves. would probably find a niche with CB

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 23:03:32 No.38096912 Report

Quoted By: >>38096981

>>38096826
252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Freeze Shock vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Xerneas: 319-376 (70.1 - 82.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Freeze Shock vs. 0 HP / 168 Def Xerneas: 376-444 (95.6 - 112.9%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Earthquake vs. 144 HP / 0 Def Groudon-Primal: 292-344 (77.4 - 91.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Freeze Shock vs. 144 HP / 0 Def Groudon-Primal: 283-334 (75 - 88.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Fusion Bolt vs. 32 HP / 64 Def Kyogre-Primal: 446-526 (127.7 - 150.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Freeze Shock vs. 32 HP / 64 Def Kyogre-Primal: 217-256 (62.1 - 73.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Kyurem-Black Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Prism Armor Necrozma-Dusk-Mane: 268-316 (79.7 - 94%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Kyurem-Black Freeze Shock vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Necrozma-Dusk-Mane: 174-205 (51.7 - 61%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Freeze Shock vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Arceus-Fairy: 364-430 (81.9 - 96.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Fusion Bolt vs. 252 HP / 64 Def Arceus-Water: 354-418 (79.7 - 94.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Fusion Bolt vs. 252 HP / 204+ Def Ho-Oh: 354-418 (85 - 100.4%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Freeze Shock vs. 252 HP / 204+ Def Ho-Oh: 345-406 (82.9 - 97.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ Atk Choice Band Kyurem-Black Freeze Shock vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Shadow Shield Lunala: 234-276 (56.3 - 66.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Freeze Shock vs. 248 HP / 208+ Def Giratina: 560-662 (111.3 - 131.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 23:11:16 No.38096981 Report

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>>38096912
252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Freeze Shock vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Blissey: 775-913 (108.5 - 127.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
(doesn't even run max def but has no chance)

252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Freeze Shock vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Arceus-Dark: 319-376 (71.8 - 84.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Freeze Shock vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Ferrothorn: 339-399 (96.3 - 113.3%) -- 75% chance to OHKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Magearna: 388-458 (106.5 - 125.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Freeze Shock vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Magearna: 189-222 (51.9 - 60.9%) -- 96.1% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Freeze Shock vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Scizor-Mega: 159-188 (46.2 - 54.6%) -- 59% chance to 2HKO
(this is the only fucker so far that almost doesn't get 2HKOed)

252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Fusion Bolt vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Toxapex: 306-360 (100.6 - 118.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Freeze Shock vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 243-286 (72.7 - 85.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Fusion Bolt vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Cloyster: 260-308 (107.8 - 127.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Klefki: 476-560 (149.6 - 176.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Freeze Shock vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Klefki: 231-273 (72.6 - 85.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Fusion Bolt vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Celesteela: 310-366 (78 - 92.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-Black Freeze Shock vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Celesteela: 301-355 (75.8 - 89.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

This fucker kills the entire tier with a Choice Band LMAO

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2019 23:42:45 No.38097257 Report

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This is the same company that didn't give Aurorus AURORA VEIL
BUT GIVE
Sanslash
Ninetales
Jynx
Articuno it.
Kyurem black will never be as good as Kyurem White.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2019 00:52:17 No.38097803 Report

Quoted By: >>38097904 >>38099950

We're already in the best scenario for Kyu-B. Regardless of the physical/special differences, they're both Dragon/Ice wallbreakers with 95 speed. The only difference is black trades Z-less kills on ferrothorn for Kyogre and Ho-oh. Kyu-White is never used in ubers because it gets dropped on it's neck by all of the numerous pokemon faster than it before it can do much, not to mention only being able to switch in on Kyogre. kyu-Black would suffer from the exact same issues, and giving it better attacks wouldn't solve them.

It'd still be useless in ubers, but banned from OU in the same purgatory Megagross and pheromosa are stuck in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2019 01:03:39 No.38097904 Report

Quoted By: >>38098403

>>38097803
KyuB doesn't even need Z to kill Ferro there, also, KyuB would definitely be better this way because of the ridiculous damage output of the new Freeze Shock, whereas KyuW needs Ice Beam and Draco Meteor isn't reliable

I would unironically run Scarf Adamant Kyurem B, it would be able to revenge kill extreme fat shit like nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2019 01:57:06 No.38098403 Report

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>>38097904
Kyurem White would also have 130 BP 1 turn Ice Burn

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2019 05:07:10 No.38099944 Report

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Actually, give it Dragon Dance too

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2019 05:07:58 No.38099950 Report

Quoted By: >>38099956 >>38100013

>>38097803
This.
The only niches Kyurem-White has in Ubers is in being able to wallbreak through Lugia, which is barely important anymore, and being able to eat through Shedinja, which it could do anyways since it has fire attacks.
That's literally it.

Why we do not have two Ubers tiers is beyond me.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2019 05:08:44 No.38099956 Report

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>>38099950
>Why we do not have two Ubers tiers is beyond me.
We do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2019 05:17:14 No.38100013 Report

Quoted By: >>38100133

>>38099950
Banlist first, tier second. Now can we stop asking this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Mar 2019 05:37:19 No.38100133 Report

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>>38100013
That stopped the moment they kicked mega-fug out, they said so themselves.

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