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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 01:31:32 No.38119234 View View Reply Original Report

Which one made you the angriest?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 01:32:41 No.38119246 Report

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>>38119234
>BURASTO BAAN
Tobias may have been injecting but fuck this charizarddicksucker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 01:33:51 No.38119256 Report

Quoted By: >>38119305

>>38119234
People actually get angry over this?
Yikes. Imagine thinking Ash deserves a win. Imagine self-inserting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 01:35:32 No.38119292 Report

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Sasuke
Kid naruto
The vanilla guy with a pussy in boots

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 01:36:21 No.38119303 Report

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The one who owns legendaries, because I hate the idea of trainers owning them

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 01:36:28 No.38119305 Report

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>>38119256
Well I wouldn’t know cause the only one of these I watched was the Tobias battle

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 01:36:57 No.38119310 Report

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>>38119234
Tobias because he's not Paul.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 01:41:05 No.38119350 Report

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>>38119234
Cameron

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 01:41:51 No.38119359 Report

Quoted By: >>38123339 >>38123438

Cameron, because he was actually braindead stupid.

Everyone else was either on Ash's level or better than him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 01:46:08 No.38119386 Report

Quoted By: >>38119598 >>38121362 >>38125012

>>38119234
Richie was dissapointing, this was the tip of the iceberg with Charizard for me.

Harrison was understandable, Ash had already beaten Gary.

Tyson ......meh.

Tobias, bullshit.

Cameron who cares? Unova sucked.

Alain was also bullshit Ash should've won.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 01:51:14 No.38119433 Report

Quoted By: >>38132013

Tobias.
>Darkrai is KO'ed
>"Cool, it should lead to something"
>Latios stomping everything
I stopped watching the anime, until SM, after that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 02:08:11 No.38119580 Report

Quoted By: >>38123233

>they literally added a trainer just to make Ash lose the league
>that trainer's only known Pokémon are 2 Legendaries, 1 of them being a Mythical and a very broken one with Dark Void
Wow...

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 02:10:25 No.38119598 Report

Quoted By: >>38120005 >>38121085 >>38121229

>>38119386
Didn't saw the GS nor Advanced animes. What was the deal with Harrison and Tyson?.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 02:23:57 No.38119720 Report

Quoted By: >>38119978 >>38125012

>>38119234
>Richie
Sleep powder was cheap as all hell, but was more mad at Charizard for being such a colossal asshole for no reason.
>Harison
Literal who. He's nothing but a bland, soulless advertisement for the next gen. It's hard to be mad at someone it's hard to remember
>Tyson
I feel absolutely nothing about this man. The Hoenn saga sucked ass until the battle frontier.
>Tobias
There's something funny about how blatant it was that he existed to stop Ash from winning.
>Cameron
He's annoying and stupid. I hate him, but he doesn't make me mad because he's a symptom of the disease that was all of the unova saga
>Alain
Definitely this guy. He only won because Ash can't be allowed to win for some reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 02:31:18 No.38119784 Report

Quoted By: >>38124891

none i like when that faggot Ash gets BTFO-ed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 02:43:05 No.38119886 Report

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>>38119234
Maybe Black and White. That ass wipe would have had a serious shot at winning if brought back a few pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 02:51:11 No.38119963 Report

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>>38119234
Richie easily. The whole scenario of that episode should have warranted a rematch/postponement, but everyone treats Ash like he was in the wrong. Charizard throwing the match for him at the end was just icing on the cake.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 02:52:51 No.38119978 Report

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>>38119720
Alain won because he was built up as the better trainer from day one. You'd have to be blind and retarded not to have seen this coming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 02:54:52 No.38120005 Report

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>>38119598
Harrison was a shill for gen 3 with his Blaziken, but he also had a decent mini arc with Sneasel, 9 year old me kinda liked him.

I don't remember much about Tyson other than his Puss in boots meowth. He was largely a meh character.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 02:58:15 No.38120033 Report

Quoted By: >>38120104

Richie no fucking contest
>Introduced right before his match with Ash as some prodigy kid
>Starts the "OMG HE HAS A PIKACHU TOO!!" thing
>Autistic nicknamefag
>Team Rocket tiring out Ash's team creates artificial difficulty
>1st bad call by ref for ruling sleep as an instant K.O
>Sparky is clearly shown to have 0% chance at winning the match
>Charizard quitting bullshit
>2nd bad call by ref by ruling that Charizard relaxing in the middle of the ring counts as a fucking disqualification
>Ritchie gets fucking bodied next round in a match Ash probably could have won

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 02:58:33 No.38120037 Report

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cameron and rye most stupit leafue pfhahaha

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 03:00:54 No.38120066 Report

Quoted By: >>38121036 >>38124918 >>38125012

>Richie
Doesn't even really count as a loss because Ash's Charizard threw on purpose. Only the beginning of Ash's career so no big deal
>Harrison
Basically just advertising for Ruby/Sapphire. Blaziken's one of my favorite mons and Ash already beat Gary so this one's cool
>Meowth guy
Alright I guess, he was a good trainer
>Tobias
Fucking bullshit, literally just there so Ash couldn't win in his best region
>Cameron
Unova didn't happen. Blatant Lucario shilling
>Alain
The biggest "fuck you" the anime has ever had. Ash pulled out all the stops, he had a good team of Pokemon in Kalos and was even more competent and creative than in Sinnoh. Don't know why they couldn't let him win one for once

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 03:01:02 No.38120067 Report

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>>38119234
Tobias fucking REEKS of OC Donut Steel horse shit. Fuck that guy.
But fuck Richie, the cunt from BW and edgelord charizardfag too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 03:06:09 No.38120104 Report

Quoted By: >>38124914

>>38120033
Richie was the moment that killed Pokemania at my school. It was amazing seeing so many people I knew drop Pokemon because of that episode.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 04:29:48 No.38120875 Report

Quoted By: >>38122354

If you think about it, each one of them represents a certain archetype of a irl player.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 04:44:27 No.38121010 Report

Quoted By: >>38123540 >>38124934 >>38128796 >>38129549 >>38131839

>Richie
Ash's first time didn't matter as much
>Harrison
Was neat to see Blaziken and like other's said he already beat Gary
>Tyson
The battle was kinda meh and didn't Kingler catch some Voltorb before the tournament started or was that Johto. Also ash beat the more interesting rival before him.
>Tobias
Would've preferred if Ash had beat the first 4 of his team then he pulled put the Legendaries out at the end.
>Cameron
The entire tournament was trash I don't know what the point of him beating Trip at the beginning was.
>Alain
Was pretty enjoyable. Pikachu did pretty well taking out 2 Psuedos and making Charizard take a knee. Was kinda weird he didn't use any Pokenon from the previous Generations during this tournament.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 04:48:00 No.38121036 Report

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>>38120066
Creative? Being a battle drone and relying on Ash Greninja isn't creative. Tobias will always be more BS simply due to legendary spam, cheating a Guts Megahorn and getting a cheap 2-6 score. At least you got a full on battle with Alain.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 04:48:03 No.38121038 Report

Quoted By: >>38121055 >>38121097 >>38125012

1. Alain
2. Tobias
3. Cameron
4. Tyson
5. Harrison
6. Richie

I will never watch the anime after XY/Z, such utter bullshit. I didn't even finish the stream that night, and I never watch any of the follow-up episodes either.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 04:51:18 No.38121055 Report

Quoted By: >>38133037

>>38121038
Sick of these underaged fags. Ash was at his sixth region at that point the anime had been going on for over for two decades, you guys should have known better. Sinnoh was where peak Bullshit happened. At least Ash was somewhat even with Alain. Tobias was a Mary Sue cockblock.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 04:53:33 No.38121074 Report

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>>38119234
Cameron. I was too young to get invested during season 1

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 04:54:41 No.38121085 Report

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>>38119598
They were just generic strong trainers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 04:55:20 No.38121088 Report

Quoted By: >>38131964

>>38119234
Alain was great I mean he stopped soulless perfect Ash and his cringe team, also XYfags were too damn uppity at that point, Ritchie one hurt me cause I was a 10 years old kid expecting Ash to win the league and that defeat was utter bullshit.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 04:55:37 No.38121091 Report

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>>38119234
Cameron, easily.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 04:55:52 No.38121097 Report

Quoted By: >>38125012

>>38121038
The Flare arc is good you should have watched it. They clearly wanted the league shorter so they could focus on it.

But yes Alain is bullshit. It's not even right what happened. Charizard was displaying Hax beyond what we saw of it before, and we got a lot of time with Alain and his Charizard beforehand. Not only that but Greninja brushed off two leaf storms from a Mega Sceptile two episodes before this, but is now having trouble with Charizards moves.

And to get meta it makes no sense for Alain to win because he is essentially being rewarded for being a fuck up by playing along with Lysandre. It's incompetence that transcends anything in the anime beforehand. It's proof the story and theming doesn't matter.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 04:57:01 No.38121111 Report

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>>38119234
Not Ash/Red.
I still hate all Charizards to this day because of that

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 04:57:22 No.38121112 Report

Quoted By: >>38125012

>>38119234
Alan. Cameron as a character in general made me angrier because goddamn I hate him so much, but Alan was just pure concentrated bullshit. That Charizard had already taken more than enough damage to knock it our 3 times over yet it was still active, not to mention the giant Orange Water Shuriken they had introduced only to not use it. Everything about Ash vs. Alan was nothing mkre than a great big fuck you middle finger from the executives to the writers, the animators, the viewers and even Satoshi Tajiri himself. It was clear that literally everyone involved wanted Ash to win but couldn't let him because of some goddamn executive motherfucker.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 04:59:54 No.38121128 Report

Quoted By: >>38121143

>>38119234
Which one is the worst offender?
>a shitty loss in a overall shitty/mediocre series
or
>a shitty loss in a overall good series

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:00:48 No.38121131 Report

Quoted By: >>38121149

ITT Butthurt underaged XY fags. Anime was already in an infinite marketing loop, Ash was never going to win. Same with Unova and now definitely Alola. Sinnoh was the last chance Ash would ever get a feasibly being allowed to win a battle and writers just decided to go past the point of no return. Ash was too good at Sinnoh, recalling old Pokemon, beating Paul, impressing Cynthia, fighting E4 and Frontier brains, using strategy. All moot when it came to Tobias and his Hacked Darkrai that came out of the writer's asses.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:02:43 No.38121143 Report

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>>38121128
Only tolerable losses were generic strong trainers cause they were skilled as Ash, older too and not using BS power ups. BTW XY isn't that good.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:02:57 No.38121145 Report

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>>38119234
First one was complete bullcrap
Team rocket literally fucked the entire match

Then I think there was some jank in the actual match vs Richie that they did have, like Ash’s mon falling asleep and having it counted as a KO. As a kid this made me completely drop the show. I was cool with Ash losing, but at least give him a proper battle.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:03:21 No.38121149 Report

Quoted By: >>38121201 >>38121202 >>38121214 >>38121215

>>38121131
Legendaries are haxxed in the anime, this is shown all the damn time so Ash losing to Tobias is fine. The shit with Pikachu/Greninja vs Charizard is not.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:05:24 No.38121166 Report

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>Richie
Charizard made me more angry than he ever did.
>>Harison
He was fine. A competent enough trainer and the Blaziken/Charizard fight as pretty neat
>>Tyson
I legitimately forgot he existed, which is really more indicative of the Hoenn league as a whole which besides the Meowth in boot I can't remember
>>Tobias
Fuck this asshole. The biggest asspull the anime has done that blatantly shits all over the previously established lore and existed solely to make Ash lose, there's nothing even remotely interesting about the fucker and if it weren't for his fucking Darkrai and Latios he wouldn't even be remembered. Made all the worse by how great DP was before

>Cameron
It's the Ritchie fight but done worse in every possible way. Who pretty much beat Ash by sheer luck. While something to be mad at, BW was shit well before this so it's just the cherry in a giant shit sundae.
>Alain
Beating Ash aside, he was actually a memorable and interesting character who had a good match against Ash and very well could've lost. His victory felt earned, and in a way Ash's loss felt earned as well.

So to answer your question OP, Tobias by far was the worst and made me furious by his mere existence.

And if were to rank them it would look like this

Alain>>>>>Richie>Harison>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Tyson>>>>>>>>>>>dogshit>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>even more dogshit>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cameron>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LGPE;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Tobias

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:09:43 No.38121197 Report

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>Richie
Eh....I never hated him as a kid though on rewatch I don't really like him. Looking back on it now, I think it's best Ash lost the league because he didn't win some gyms in a straight out battle against the leader.

Harrison-Annoyed but understandable. He was a solid trainer but Charizard losing to Blaziken does frustrate me.

Tyson- I don't remember this one.

Tobias- Now this pissed me off. His entire character is pure fanfic tier and his design definitely looks like something straight out of an autist from deviantart.

Cameron- The most cliche shonen idiot hero, sure Ash's team sucked but fuck his character

Alain- Good battle, but I didn't expect Ash to win so I wasn't as upset.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:10:18 No.38121201 Report

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>>38121149
This. The fact that Ash made it past Darkrai and took down Latios when no-one else could even get past Darkrai proves that the reason Ash wasn't second was purely down to the tournament matchups. Charizard X on the other hand should not have been able to win after sustaining as much damage as it did over the course of that match. It was as if Alan had the take no damage code active on Charizard.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:10:20 No.38121202 Report

Quoted By: >>38121372

>>38121149
No it isn't fine. Tobias reeks of BS, otherwise Ash would have loss to a standard trainer. Alain is like Harrison and Tyson, strong equal trainer to Ash but only more fleshed out and a little more BS. His win against Ash is no different than Blaziken winning against Charizard except it was a more flashy battle. You xyfags like to make everything dramatic but Ash losing was already set in stone a long time ago.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:12:27 No.38121214 Report

Quoted By: >>38121372

>>38121149
Even how tough legendaries are is pretty variable
Regice in Battle Frontier got one-shotted by a Volt Tackle but then you got this asshat with a Darkrai that eats a Megahorn and shits on most of Ash's team

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:12:31 No.38121215 Report

Quoted By: >>38121239 >>38123754 >>38123768 >>38123837

>>38121149
>Legendaries are haxxed in the anime,
Exactly, they're akin to gods and no average trainer should have them in their team.

Literally the only other instance of a Trainer having legendaries was Brandon, who was the leader of the Battle Frontier and someone who studied ancient and mythological cultures and had them in the game in the first place.

Some random fuckhead shouldn't have a goddamn Darkrai and Latias on his team for no reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:15:26 No.38121229 Report

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>>38119598
Harrison was Mr. Shill Man but Tyson was a genuine strong trainer who beat Ash in a pretty even match. Ash’s defeat against him is literally the only legitimate loss.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:16:24 No.38121239 Report

Quoted By: >>38121256

>>38121215
Didn't Noland have an Articuno?

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:16:48 No.38121244 Report

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>Charizard X took too much damage
Like that matters in the anime, remember all the damage Infernape took in the Paul fight.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:18:49 No.38121253 Report

Quoted By: >>38121281

>>38119234
If your answer wasn’t Ritchie, you’re either a zoomer or autist.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:19:17 No.38121256 Report

Quoted By: >>38121295

>>38121239
It wasn't "caught" exactly, it's just a wild Pokemon that he befriended and decided it wanted to fight with him.
also the legendary birds are hardly anything special/spoiler]

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:20:17 No.38121265 Report

Quoted By: >>38123774 >>38132919

>>38119234
Tobias easily. Literally brought fucking legends/ubers to the match. They couldn't even give Ash a proper, fair opponent. Lazy writing, easily the most bullshit league loss for Ash in the whole series. I'm fine with him always losing at this point, but they couldn't even muster the creativity to have a compelling battle.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:20:36 No.38121269 Report

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If your answer isn't anything before BW, then you're underaged autist. BW symbolized the end for any decent coherent development for Ash. Obviously he's going to lose now.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:21:39 No.38121281 Report

Quoted By: >>38121309

>>38121253
It was literally Charizard's fault though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsLPMHd_27g

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:22:25 No.38121295 Report

Quoted By: >>38121333

>>38121256
>spoiler
Well there was these assholes

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:23:01 No.38121301 Report

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If your answer isn't TPC then I have nothing to say.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:23:52 No.38121309 Report

Quoted By: >>38121331 >>38122459

>>38121281
>has Kingler, Muk and Tauros
>brings a faggot Charizard that doesn't listen to him

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:27:28 No.38121331 Report

Quoted By: >>38121347

>>38121309
Ash is a retard but pretty sure it was because he was late and didn't have time to swap pokemon. Plus Tauros's battle prowess was unknown to Ash because he boxed it immediately. Muk also only had one win against some fag's wanked Bellsprout.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:28:12 No.38121333 Report

Quoted By: >>38121343

>>38121295
>all that made up bullshit surrounding the legendary birds never to be brought up again
>Lugia has no real connection to them either even after it appears again
>Ho-oh still hasn't made a proper anime appearance
Power of One really hasn't aged well has it?

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:29:53 No.38121343 Report

Quoted By: >>38121400

>>38121333
Movies are rarely if ever connected to the anime anon. Lugia and Ho-Oh are also not marketable now because they're not A. Kanto B. New gen.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:30:14 No.38121347 Report

Quoted By: >>38121373

>>38121331
>Plus Tauros's battle prowess was unknown to Ash
So it was Krabby.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:31:46 No.38121362 Report

Quoted By: >>38121401

>>38119386
>Cameron who cares? Unova sucked.
I hope you only mean the anime

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:33:22 No.38121372 Report

Quoted By: >>38121381 >>38121392 >>38125012

>>38121214
Pikachu at its full potential vastly outperforms any other mon in Ash's team by a longshot, that is why it clowned on Regice.

>>38121202
I get that your whole schtick is doing the "LOL got em those XY fags are so dumb", based on your last sentence but I've been with the anime since Hoenn and I've seen all of OS through a few times now. Alain is not equal to them. Ash fought Alain before, and Greninja felt like it did more damage then than it did here.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:33:25 No.38121373 Report

Quoted By: >>38121394

>>38121347
Krabby solod most of his league battles what do you mean?

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:34:15 No.38121379 Report

Quoted By: >>38124983

>Richie
First league. Ash was still quite rookie, although the Charizard sleeping thing was really annoying.
>Harrison
Ash managed to beat Gary, and he was kinda decent. Maybe it was the perfect time for Ash to step aside and make May/Brendan start a new series for their own.
>Tyson
Forgettable. I can't really say a lot about this one because I literally forgot it existed.
>Tobias
Biggest fucking bullshit in the anime at that point. It would have been the perfect season but Ash got swept by a cheap Mary Stu.
>Cameron
Ash got rebooted hard, so it gets a bit of justification there. BW was really boring anyways.
>Alain
It makes perfect sense because he is objectively a strong character with a nice backstory and training, but he was picked in the wrong series. Perhaps putting him in DP would have been better and allow Ash to win the Kalos league would have been interesting, but they screwed up really badly with him.

They should simply allow Ash to get a league victory. He got a chance at the Battle Frontier and has travelled 7 regions (not counting Decolora Islands and Orange Islands) and, if we consider movies, he is friend of many legendaries and can fug Latias and has access to many Pokemon with Mega Evolution as well as many Pokemon professors know him.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:34:32 No.38121381 Report

Quoted By: >>38121412

>>38121372
No that is not my schtick. I liked XY but you guys should have known better. Type match ups and how much damage is done doesn't mean shit in the end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:36:07 No.38121392 Report

Quoted By: >>38121412

>>38121372
Retard. Alain had build up, Tobias was instamary sue.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:36:13 No.38121394 Report

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>>38121373
Krabby's debut was a league match, with no previous battle experience.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:37:07 No.38121400 Report

Quoted By: >>38121424 >>38121433

>>38121343
They could've done something with Ho-Oh when HGSS was released, but I digress.

The anime at least tries to have some connection to the games when it comes to legendaries, like Giratina's reverse world and Deoxys coming to earth by meteor and whatnot

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:37:14 No.38121401 Report

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>>38121362
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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:39:13 No.38121412 Report

Quoted By: >>38121432

>>38121381
Then tell me why Greninja was having an easier time with Chariazard before the League match when both it and Ash seemingly perfected they battle bond ability?

>>38121392
Having a trainer appear with haxxed mons is more fair than knowing the limitations of a character then having said limitations thrown out the window like with Alain.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:41:43 No.38121424 Report

Quoted By: >>38121463

>>38121400
where those in the actual anime or just the movies? as far as I know they deoxys part was only in the movies.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:42:30 No.38121432 Report

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>>38121412
>Having a trainer appear with haxxed mons is more fair
Fuck no, it's as bad as writing as you can get

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:42:54 No.38121433 Report

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>>38121400
Incompetent anime staff I guess. Plus in Japan they aired a fuck ton of HGSS ads after the anime so no need for Ho-Oh.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:47:15 No.38121463 Report

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>>38121424
Movies. Legendaries are almost always movie fodder and rarely appear in the anime itself outside of special occasions and events.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:53:06 No.38121492 Report

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Tobias, no contest
Not only is he an utter fucking edge lord they had the audacity to write this character as some witty and smug asshole who was only carried by the fact he had legendaries with strong moves
I'm also dissatisfied with how Ash chose some Pokemon, such as torkal over infernape, I mean it's cool to see Ash beat a couple of legendaries with some strategy but this fight was inherently shit, torkoal didn't do shit
Alain doesn't piss me off as much because it was a well fought intense battle
Aside from that the series doesn't let Ash win because it's basically a Shounen anime, a never ending series to be endlessly milked of all it's riches, Japs don't like shit ending, for some stupid ass reason

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 05:55:23 No.38121509 Report

Quoted By: >>38122040

I kept telling people during XY that Alain was too strong for the Kalos League. This guy was squaring off with top tiers every day in his own mini-series while Ash was still running around for Badges. The difference in power was already made clear. Honestly, more people should've known that it was over from the minute he was confirmed for the League.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 06:49:00 No.38121772 Report

Quoted By: >>38123567

I never noticed you could have legendaries for a match in League
How does that work? Is Darkray and Latios in master balls at least?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 07:51:04 No.38122040 Report

Quoted By: >>38125012

>>38121509
>acting like Ash vs Diantha never happened
This board is a lost cause. Ash vs Alain is pure writing bullshit and no one seeing it as such is proof we are all brain dead. Just delete the whole thing. This board is cursed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 07:56:51 No.38122062 Report

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oh shut the fuck up you thirsty whores
the anime is an absolutely steaming shitburning garbage show made with the sole purpose of selling merchandise
your ash is nothing more than advertising billboard for children that can't read english yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 08:04:43 No.38122092 Report

Quoted By: >>38123332

How can anyone hate Ritchie? He was a good kid. Harrison was also decent. Can't remember the other dude but from gen 1 to gen 3 it felt like Ash's league losses were fair because he's still learning.

It was only until Tobias and every faggot after him that Ash's losses started feeling genuinely bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 08:10:55 No.38122114 Report

Quoted By: >>38122131

Ritchie. His team was a literal copy-paste of Ash's team, not to mention he won literary because Charizard didn't want to fight. At least the other guys had solid teams. Tobias was also bullshit with his legendaries, especially since we never heard from him again. Like, there's a guy just walking around with multiple legendary 'mons that competes in one league and is never heard from again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 08:18:30 No.38122131 Report

Quoted By: >>38122214 >>38123330

>>38122114
Yeah but that was kind of Ritchie's whole point. He even LOOKS like Ash, he is supposed to be a copycat rival. The kind of anger that Ritchie instills is still friendly and not so hostile because we got several other episodes with him showing that he has heart as a trainer. He's got all that going for him when we've also got cocksuckers like Tobias and Alain thqt just took the trophy and left never to be seen again.

Or Cameron, who was an obnoxious piece of shit that made Barry look tame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 08:41:05 No.38122214 Report

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>>38122131
I see your point, but it was still stupid to see Ash lose to him because of some shitty technicalities such as 'KO by sleep powder' etc. And I agree that Cameron was annoying as hell. I still don't understand why he replaced Trip as this 1# rival of Ash in Unova. At least he has Hydreigon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 09:12:12 No.38122354 Report

Quoted By: >>38128781

>>38120875
Explain. I see Richie is the nicknamer and Tobias is the try hard legendary user but what about the others?

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 09:23:09 No.38122402 Report

Quoted By: >>38122542

I don't get the anger at Ash vs Alain, looking back on it. Alain's Charizard was basically legendary tier by time Ash fought it at the league, and Ash only lost by an inch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 09:23:49 No.38122407 Report

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>Ritchie

As a kid? Pissed. As an adult? I'm probably giving the anime writers way too much credit, but I feel like he was meant to be more thematic than just the battle - Ritchie exists pretty much to challenge Ash to dig deep and keep pursuing his dream even when bullshit happens and he takes a public, humiliating L with Charizard. Plus I'm pretty sure the ending of Indigo changed multiple times due to executive/Pokemania related factors, so I'll give this one a pass.

> Tobias

By far the dumbest set up in the show. I feel like this guy should have been a movie villain.

This one was horseshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 09:33:55 No.38122459 Report

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>>38121309
To be fair to Ash, nothing Richie has could have possibly beaten Charizard in a proper fight, if Charizard wasn't an asshole and that Ref wasn't paid off by Richie then he would have won.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 09:52:55 No.38122542 Report

Quoted By: >>38124895

>>38122402
>and Ash only lost by an inch.

I think that's why people are mad- the only trainers that can hang against Ash usually have rubbed shoulders with legendaries on a regular basis or are just E4 members or better- not exactly new information since Sinnoh. The elephant's been in the room a long time about Ash's 'Power Level'- if the writers didn't keep introducing people like Tobias that conveniently want to bother with the league Ash would get a chance to be stomped by an E4 member and we can move on from gym crawls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 10:02:57 No.38122572 Report

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XY Ash deserved to lose when writers decided not to call his strongest pokemon to the final battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 11:10:59 No.38122974 Report

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>>38119234
Alan was literally the only one not spoiled in advance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 12:01:12 No.38123233 Report

Quoted By: >>38124930

>>38119580
I would have lost my shit so hard if sleep talk heracross one shotted darkrai

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 12:21:46 No.38123330 Report

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>>38122131
Alain had an entire spin-off about him, what the hell are you on about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 12:22:01 No.38123332 Report

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>>38122092
I thought Ritchie was cool as a kid but when I rewatched later I really just fucking hated him. He's irritating and they go really out of their way to show you he's better than Ash despite having a far weaker team and being the same age and experience level. Like he's a ten year old who can fix fucking elevators just to stick it to Ash. On top of that I thought the way the league match between him and Ash was handled was just terrible because the writers knew they gave him a team that Ash would never struggle with. If Ritchie was an older, more experienced trainer with a powerful team I think certain things would have worked far better. Like he would have gone to some shiteating kid just like Ash to a trainer Ash could one day aspire to be like. It doesn't help that all the rivals Ash met along the way don't appear at the league at all so instead of Ash fighting these COTD he promised to see at the league he's fighting no names and a poorly implemented clone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 12:24:03 No.38123339 Report

Quoted By: >>38131318

>>38119359
And because he won because of his riolu evolving in the middle of the fight...as if lucario wasn't shilled enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 12:43:41 No.38123438 Report

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>>38119359
>bring 5 Pokemon for a 6v6

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 12:57:13 No.38123486 Report

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>>38119234
Cameroon sapped all my faith out of the pokemon anime until Sun and Moon. FUCK THAT SHITSTAIN

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 13:05:44 No.38123540 Report

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>>38121010
Kingler definitely wouod’ve been Johto.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 13:09:30 No.38123567 Report

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>>38121772
Nah, Poké Balls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 13:10:24 No.38123575 Report

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Ash losing to Ritchie was perfectly fine with season one overall

Ash depended so much on external occurences and other bullshit to gain its badges that he never deserved to be in the league to begin with. To lose to a literal who which was clearly weaker than him (and got thrashed the next round) due to more bullshit and specially his pokemon not obeying him as a trainer was strangely poetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 13:33:05 No.38123718 Report

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>>38119234
Tobias makes me seethe to this day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 13:36:53 No.38123754 Report

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>>38121215
Wasn't there a Nurse Joy with a Latias?

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 13:37:02 No.38123755 Report

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>>38119234
Oikawa Yukio's bastard son.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 13:39:06 No.38123768 Report

Quoted By: >>38123840

>>38121215
Speaking of random fuckheads who shouldn't have legendaries for no reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 13:40:10 No.38123774 Report

Quoted By: >>38123806 >>38123872

>>38121265
>muh legendaries
Any competent trainer would use them. Ash is a retard.
Tobias and his kind are still an asspull, though.
>"Ifu Satoshi winzu za ligu, zen za serizu wiru endu!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 13:43:51 No.38123806 Report

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>>38123774
>Any competent trainer would use them.
Based on the anime you have to be a legendary trainer to use a legendary Pokemon, especially one like Darkrai or Latias

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 13:47:45 No.38123837 Report

Quoted By: >>38127771

>>38121215
The anime has been expressively clear that there are multiple versions and that most legendaries are just rare. The only real exception to this I think is Arceus. Even Mewtwo has been shown to exist in more than one instance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 13:48:17 No.38123840 Report

Quoted By: >>38124648

>>38123768
Heatran's not legendary, his species is just shy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 13:51:59 No.38123872 Report

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>>38123774
I think with Sinnoh it was especially irritating since it was established that winning the league only really gives you the rights to challenge the Champion league so even if Ash had won the league itself, he still would have lost to the E4. In fact back when that was established it was agreed they did it so that he wouldn't keep losing leagues and thus could move up to the E4 league and lose to the various E4 members.

What a waste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 14:03:22 No.38123940 Report

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One of the League things that gets me is how Ash has so many different Pokemon from different regions and not many opponents look at his old roster Pokemon and go 'what the fuck is that' and whip out a Pokedex to find out. Logically Ash could tilt somebody by using a mon like Infernape and the idiot thinks the obvious fire type will be weak to his native rock mon, unaware Infernape is part fighting and could wreck the bastard immediately. If someone did serious research into Ash and his incredible reserves that'd be an interesting twist during the semis or even the finals.

Hell a part of me hopes that Ash's incomplete Alola team means if a League does happen he'll fill his open roster with older Pokemon he hasn't used in a while.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 14:59:52 No.38124305 Report

Quoted By: >>38124332 >>38124750 >>38125039 >>38129072

>Ritchie
Well it was Ash's first league, so it wasn't unexpected for him to lose. Plus, as was pointed out up there, he didn't really earn something like 6 of his badges in a fair gym battle. But to make it someone who just used almost the same team as him was kind of insulting, and the whole Sleep Powder and disobedience thing made it worse. (Why couldn't it have been Gary, anyways?)

>Harrison
I honestly feel that Ash really should have won the Johto league and had the anime begin again with May and/or Brendan in Hoenn. He already beat his longtime rival Gary.

>Tyson
I really didn't get the Meowth in Boots thing, myself. Can't remember much else.

>Tobias
I think the whole reason for Tobias existing was because the writers went "Oh fuck, we made Ash too powerful, how do we make him lose so we can keep the anime going?" Kind of another point towards 'Ash should've won in Johto' since he's got the power creep.

>Cameron
Apparently Tobias stole Ash's battle prowess when he beat the kid, but even starting Ash wasn't as dumb as Cameron was. I think it'd have been a lot better if Trip had beaten Ash, though that's just me.

>Alain
After seeing what happened with Tobias I had zero doubt that Alain would beat Ash in the end. Even with that fake-mega-evo Greninja.

I am a bit surprised that they always seem to introduce somebody who exists primarily to beat Ash in the league about 9/10 of the way into the season, and never think to just... make it the rival introduced at the start. Just have the rival get curb stomped by Ash the first few times, but slowly improving his standings until the final pre-League fight is nearly a draw, and have the rival just barely eke out a win against Ash in the League battle.

(I think Ash's Pikachu has probably transcended the concept of level at this point, surpassed Level 65,535 and such. Kid needs to finally win and retire.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 15:02:58 No.38124332 Report

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>>38124305
One thing that really fucking sucks to me is that Alain was introduced as a character Ash would need to surpass at some point to be a better trainer, but Ash NEVER beats him, not even after the league. Unless Alain is going to be a recurring rival, which he most likely won't be, Ash will just always have that loss under his belt.
It's different from any of the other newer trainers he lost to, Ash met Alain long before the league.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 15:29:02 No.38124505 Report

Quoted By: >>38125012

I was so mad at Alain because I thought Ash would actually win for once. Everything was set in stone.
>One of his best team
>We discovered that Alola didn't have gym leaders meaning it was possible he'd go there to help make a league as a winner of Kalos
>Even if he beat Alain that didn't mean anything cause he still had to take on the E4
>Had a fight against Dianthea so I thought we'd have a rematch
Fuck I hate people who think ash winning the league = him being champion of the region. It was made pretty clear (in Hoenn? I don't remember) that winning only gives you the right to battle the E4 in the anime. (That'd be pretty cool if the games had a tournament like that)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 15:43:10 No.38124648 Report

Quoted By: >>38124856

>>38123840
>his

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 15:54:09 No.38124750 Report

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>>38124305
>I really didn't get the Meowth in Boots thing, myself.
It was a reference to The Booted Cat/Puss in Boots story. Not realy much to get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 16:06:37 No.38124856 Report

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>>38124648
>Can be male or female
You have a 50/50 chance anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 16:08:58 No.38124871 Report

Quoted By: >>38125370 >>38125872

Tobias isn't real, he was an entity created by a bunch of bored legendaries who wanted to fuck with humans

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 16:10:49 No.38124885 Report

Quoted By: >>38125012

Tobias and Alain are probably the most bullshit. One for just being too OP for life and the other just straight up not wanting Ash to win.

Notice that both of these examples had Ash's strongest team in those particular seasons

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 16:12:02 No.38124891 Report

Quoted By:

>>38119784
This, Ash is a retard that doesn't deserve to win.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 16:12:27 No.38124895 Report

Quoted By:

>>38122542
> Ash would get a chance to be stomped by an E4 member and we can move on from gym crawls.
This brings up a valid point.
Isn't the tournament simply a chance to battle the Elite 4 in the animeverse? Granted, Ash would be sixth-best in the region otherwise, but still.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 16:15:15 No.38124914 Report

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>>38120104
I think that was a worldwide thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 16:15:44 No.38124918 Report

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>>38120066
>creative
>3 flying types, a pseudo, memeninja, and pikachu

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 16:17:31 No.38124930 Report

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>>38123233
Why? He should of one shorted Darkrai or at least 2HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 16:18:03 No.38124934 Report

Quoted By:

>>38121010
>Richie
>Ash's first time didn't matter as much
I'd say it mattered a lot at the time. In retrospective probably not but back then, that shit was heart-crushing especially how it happened

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 16:22:16 No.38124974 Report

Quoted By: >>38125039

>anons ITT still seething other Tobias instead of realizing that Sinnoh was a region with naturally broken trainers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 16:23:30 No.38124983 Report

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>>38121379
>Maybe it was the perfect time for Ash to step aside and make May/Brendan start a new series for their own.
Yup. I feel like the end of Johto was essentially the point of no return for the anime. Johto ends in a perfect way leading to a journey goes on ending for Ash and then we could have easily moved on to new protagonists with Ash having become a better trainer, but that just didn't happen.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 16:27:22 No.38125012 Report

Quoted By: >>38126723 >>38127231 >>38131607

>>38119386
>>38119720
>>38120066
>>38121038
>>38121097
>>38121112
>>38121372
>>38122040
>>38124505
>>38124885
Ash absolutely deserved to get his shit stomped by megazard.
Don't forsake your best fucking friend for an ugly ass shillmon.
Notice how Pikachu had the best showing of all of his mons?
But Ash held onto his special snowflake Greninja till the end because he valued it more.
By XY Ash has lost any and all personality he once had, he's basically braindead and can only drone on about winning.
Alain is far better written and never lost his way.

FUCK XY and fuck Ash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 16:30:05 No.38125039 Report

Quoted By:

>>38124974
See >>38124305
>I think the whole reason for Tobias existing was because the writers went "Oh fuck, we made Ash too powerful, how do we make him lose so we can keep the anime going?" Kind of another point towards 'Ash should've won in Johto' since he's got the power creep.

I agree with all of this. I don't think that makes it an excuse and if anything is a flaw of the writing keeping Ash around

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 16:56:58 No.38125370 Report

Quoted By: >>38125872

>>38124871
You know, I could honestly kind of buy that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 17:44:27 No.38125872 Report

Quoted By:

>>38124871
>>38125370
>Mew transforms into Tobias
>Arceus makes fake Pokeballs
>The lake trio use their abilities to make sure nobody sees anything wrong with Tobias or the fake pokeballs
>Darkrai, Latios and some others agree to be the Pokemon on the team.
Someone make this reality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 19:01:41 No.38126590 Report

Quoted By: >>38126716 >>38131365

>>38119234
>From the most retarded to the most decent losses
Cameron >>>>>>>>>>> Alain >>>>>>>>> Richie > Tyson > Tobias > Harrison

I guess Ash will lose to either Guzma or Kukui in the current league.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 19:17:14 No.38126716 Report

Quoted By: >>38127103

>>38126590
Alain's victory made sense, your butthurt doesn't make it retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 19:18:21 No.38126723 Report

Quoted By: >>38127231

>>38125012
t. Pikachu

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 19:53:25 No.38127103 Report

Quoted By: >>38127319 >>38129453 >>38131597

>>38126716
>Gary stu doesn't even know what a league is
>Ash personally invited the guy to beat his ass
>All that promotional and obvious bullshit for a cheap ass beatdown
>The Water Shuriken asspull on top of the Greninja asspull
>Goodra literally jobbing to death
>The rest of his team literally jobbing to death
>After all the retarded bullshit in the league is over Ash gets tortured with his entire team and that shitty ass Team Flare ends the series
Only a retard like you would act like all this dumbshit isn't the shittiest writing in the series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 20:04:14 No.38127231 Report

Quoted By:

>>38125012
>Don't forsake your best fucking friend for an ugly ass shillmon.
>literally dives off a tower to protect Pikachu

>>38126723
Pikachu wouldn't say that unless Ash actually did it, which he only did in Unova and called him out on it during that gym battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 20:13:24 No.38127319 Report

Quoted By: >>38129434

>>38127103
Alain was eating trainers with access to mega evolution like breakfast, even beat an Elite 4, thing Ash never did, was also battling Legendaries, if you think Ash could beat Alain with that shitty formation where only Pikachu and Greninja were the good ones, you are the one with brain problems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 20:51:05 No.38127771 Report

Quoted By:

>>38123837
Trying to justify bad writing, with even more bad writing isn't doing you any favors

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 22:23:26 No.38128781 Report

Quoted By:

>>38122354
Harrison is the guy who is good at the game but still uses his favourites.
Tyson is the guy who uses a gimmick mon.
Cameron is a kid that's barely able to read.
Not sure about Alain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 22:25:07 No.38128796 Report

Quoted By:

>>38121010
>Would've preferred if Ash had beat the first 4 of his team then he pulled put the Legendaries out at the end
Nah, the best part was seeing Ash take down two legendaries that had been sweeping the tournament.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 22:45:09 No.38129072 Report

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>>38124305
>I think Ash's Pikachu has probably transcended the concept of level at this point, surpassed Level 65,535
People always overestimate Pikachu's level. I remember at the end of DP there was some guy that calculated that it would only be level 60-70 at most. Keep in mind that it doesn't fight in every episode, there's no exp share and Team Rocket's Pokémon are probably really underleveled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 23:16:53 No.38129434 Report

Quoted By: >>38129462

>>38127319
Ash was also eating trainers and gym leaders with access to mega evolution like a snacc you dumbass and even fucked up a Champion, things Alain never did. He was also battling and defeated legendaries and UBs rather then get his ass kicked by them like Alain.

Alain caught his team in a fucking day so shut the fuck up with that bullshit about who should be stronger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 23:19:48 No.38129453 Report

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>>38127103
Shitty writing?
Like the asspull frog?
And Gary Stu trAsh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 23:20:46 No.38129462 Report

Quoted By: >>38131497

>>38129434
>Ash was also eating trainers and gym leaders
>jobs to the first Gym

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 23:29:40 No.38129549 Report

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>>38121010
His 4 other Pokemon
Raikou
Deoxys
Lugia
Rayquaza

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Anonymous Thu 28 Mar 2019 23:50:30 No.38129770 Report

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>>38119234
This faggot

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Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 00:48:21 No.38130451 Report

Quoted By: >>38131515

>people still mad
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 02:09:23 No.38131318 Report

Quoted By: >>38131927

>>38123339
That's why I'm glad Pikachu fucked up a Mega Lucario in Kalos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 02:13:40 No.38131365 Report

Quoted By: >>38131588

>>38126590
>Guzma is a scrub trainer in the games and in the manga

Ash losing to him would be dumb

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 02:27:15 No.38131497 Report

Quoted By: >>38131515

>>38129462
>jobs to the first Gym
>Defeated 4 legendaries and 3 UBs
Ash's feats are just way fucking better than anyone else's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 02:28:28 No.38131515 Report

Quoted By: >>38131597

>>38131497
>>38130451

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 02:35:30 No.38131588 Report

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>>38131365
Guzma is still strong as fuck as you can see in the preview and was able to beat Gladion too. He's basically the game version of Ash where he always loses when it counts the most.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 02:36:39 No.38131597 Report

Quoted By: >>38131615

>>38131515
>>38127103

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Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 02:37:26 No.38131607 Report

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>>38125012
You are platinum retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 02:38:58 No.38131615 Report

Quoted By: >>38131729

>>38131597
>being this buttmad

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 02:52:53 No.38131729 Report

Quoted By: >>38131811

>>38131615
>Being this brain dead and enjoying shitty writing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 03:02:23 No.38131811 Report

Quoted By: >>38131894

>>38131729
>call others brain dead
>expected Ash to win a league
Heh, also I never said I enjoy the anime, but I have to admire the fact that years after the defeat people like you are still crying about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 03:06:10 No.38131839 Report

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>>38121010
>and like other's said he already beat Gary
>Gary then nullifies this defeat by beating his ass two seasons later
At least his win against Paul wasn't tarnished.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 03:14:41 No.38131894 Report

Quoted By: >>38131965

>>38131811
How can your dumbass not see how much effort they put into making everyone think Ash was going to win? Who gives a fuck that he lost another league when the way he lost is the shit people are mad about.

You probably thought his battle against Tobias was the obvious win.

Skarmory321

Skarmory321 Fri 29 Mar 2019 03:15:30 No.38131900 Report

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Tie between Alain and Tobias. Sceptile did amazing against Darkrai, after it wiped 2/3 of his team, so it scoring the W against it was cool. But why is it that Pikachu has to get clapped in the League at all costs?
As for Alain, type advantage was nice and all but the whole "gimmick vs gimmick" thing was kinda trash. But it would've been cool to see SAWYER, who actually had a decent team for countering power-of-the-pen Greninja, score the win. That made more sense than a Water-type losing to some side-series protag character just for that arc destroying his shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 03:18:24 No.38131927 Report

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>>38131318
I thought that Mega Lucario was literally kicking Pikachu around like a football until animal control came to put it down. Or something. I don't remember much about the first half of Kalos other than Ash getting his ass kicked by the first gym leader like a noob.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 03:22:33 No.38131964 Report

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>>38121088
Well at least it isn't like Digimon's bullshit where an MC either gets his shit cucked in half or he leaves the world of pussy to punch digital monsters. I still have no clue why Ash is the only MC getting the pity party.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 03:22:33 No.38131965 Report

Quoted By: >>38132978

>>38131894
>how much effort they put into making everyone think Ash was going to win?
If he win a league, it will be with the pokemon with more development (plot armor) Greninja and Pikachu are ok but the other 4 were just filler. leaving Charizard, Infernape or Sceptile out of the league was an insta death flag, if you couldn't see that I feel bad for you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 03:28:57 No.38132013 Report

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>>38119433
Ultra super totally agree
And ultra based and redpilled

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 05:42:33 No.38132919 Report

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>>38121265
Because Ash losing to a normal trainer would have made no sense in DP with how good he was. It would be better to lose to someone with ubers.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 05:47:32 No.38132945 Report

Quoted By: >>38132953 >>38132985

Out of Vs Gary, Vs Paul, Vs Trip, Vs May and Vs Alain, which was the better rival fight?

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Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 05:48:31 No.38132953 Report

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>>38132945
How is this a question? Vs Paul at Lake Acuity and the Sinnoh League take the top two spots objectively.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 05:51:52 No.38132978 Report

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>>38131965

>other 4 was just filler

Goodra's %100 win rate was great though at the time

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Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 05:52:55 No.38132985 Report

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>>38132945

Paul by a giant longshot just by the fag that he was a literal smogon fag and made the fights both entertaining and flexible

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Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 06:00:00 No.38133037 Report

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>>38121055
I've been watching Pokemon since I was 7 years old 21 years ago. I've seen bullshit, and none of it was as much as XY/Z. Everyone, and every board, was hyped for that match because it was hyped by the anime and teased so much on all platforms of communication that Ash would finally win one.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 06:36:22 No.38133169 Report

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>>38119234
I actually stopped caring after Ash didn't release Charizard for being a faggot in his fight with Richie.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 06:39:26 No.38133186 Report

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>>38119234
I dunno half of these fuckers names and I don't even know the signature Pokemon of the fucker in the bottom left so fuck him I guess?

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Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 06:46:10 No.38133219 Report

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>>38133186
It's Lucario

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