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Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 05:35:08 No.38132884 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>38132949 >>38132975 >>38133010 >>38133243 >>38133672 >>38133954 >>38134129 >>38134146 >>38134401 >>38134438 >>38134801

>play fangame
>gym leaders use a full team of six
Uh, seriously...?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 05:39:00 No.38132901 Report

Quoted By: >>38132949

>play fangame
>following pokemon
Uh, seriously...?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 05:41:02 No.38132910 Report

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>play fangame
>every pokemon from every region, and also some fakemons
Uh, seriously...?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 05:42:36 No.38132920 Report

Quoted By: >>38132949 >>38132963 >>38133028

>play fangame
>the professor is pirate Danny DeVito
Uh, seriously...?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 05:46:26 No.38132939 Report

Quoted By: >>38132949 >>38134129

>fangame attempts a darker story
>fangame has cursing
>comedy involves characters randomly saying go fuck yourself
>smogon tier sets right in the first gym
>murder
Uh, seriously...?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 05:47:57 No.38132949 Report

Quoted By: >>38133010 >>38133048

>>38132884
They try too hard.
>>38132901
Never liked it in HGSS.
>>38132939
They are REALLY trying hard.
>>38132920
This sounds rather cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 05:50:00 No.38132963 Report

Quoted By: >>38133042 >>38133048

>>38132920
I am confused. What's wrong with Danny DeVito?

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Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 05:51:18 No.38132975 Report

Quoted By: >>38133004 >>38133010 >>38133022 >>38133167

>>38132884
There is literally no reason Gym Leaders shouldn't have full teams by the 4th/5th gym.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 05:55:25 No.38133004 Report

Quoted By: >>38133043

>>38132975
If the type representation ends up needing multiple Pokemon of the same line (eg. Snover and Abomasnow in the same team in DP), or especially an off-type mon (eg. Octillery in the very next gym, same gen) then it's better off being <6.
Otherwise I agree, gyms should be a better source of EXP by the time you're that far into the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 05:56:31 No.38133010 Report

Quoted By: >>38133043

>>38132975
I think they mean it's a little egregious when the first gym leader has a full team of fully evolved (even if level appropriate) Pokemon.

>>38132884
>>38132949
Alternatively, likely answer is that the fangame maker has lost sight of how pokemon is meant to be balanced due to playing against or with Smogon people all the time.

Also:
>Play fangame
>Fourth wall and meta-humor outside the developer room

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 05:58:29 No.38133022 Report

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>>38132975
>Wojak
Opinion disregarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 05:58:58 No.38133028 Report

Quoted By: >>38133042

>>38132920
Please explain in great detail why having danny devito is a detractor from quality

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 06:00:48 No.38133042 Report

Quoted By: >>38133056

>>38132963
>>38133028
Obviously because Danny Devito should be Pikachu. ALL Pikachu.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 06:00:51 No.38133043 Report

Quoted By: >>38133261 >>38133672

>>38133004
>If the type representation ends up needing multiple Pokemon of the same line (eg. Snover and Abomasnow in the same team in DP), or especially an off-type mon (eg. Octillery in the very next gym, same gen) then it's better off being <6.
Mono-type gyms are a cancer. Teams should be more thematic than "dude just give them every metal type in the game", especially near the end of the game. They're more interesting, challenging, and enjoyable. Pokemon Stadium understood this perfectly.

>>38133010
For the first few gyms though I understand that, it is overkill when the player's options are extremely limited.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 06:01:35 No.38133048 Report

Quoted By: >>38133785

>>38132949
>>38132963
Clover has Professor Stump, who's Danny's character from It's Always Sunny with a peg leg and eyepatch and the credentials to hand you a used condom monster, a suicide bomber monster, or a monster with a plant growing out of its asshole

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 06:03:01 No.38133056 Report

Quoted By: >>38133325

>>38133042
would it be possible to create a fan remake of bw2 where every character and pokemon is danny devito

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 06:35:57 No.38133167 Report

Quoted By: >>38133330

>>38132975
I usually have like four pokemon on my team around that point, not everybody throws together a bunch of early-game trash and calls it a team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 06:50:24 No.38133243 Report

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>>38132884
>play fangame
>it has a tutorial

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 06:56:58 No.38133261 Report

Quoted By: >>38133324 >>38134079

>>38133043
Monotype gyms exist for thematic reasons. Remembering gym leaders in order is difficult, but going "grass type gym leader" returns Erika, Gardenia, Ramone (haha romaine, he is lettuce), and Cilan.

Gym leaders also have signature pokemon, like Sabrina with her Alakazam. If each gym leader has a signature pokemon, and the signature pokemon are all different types, then it makes sense to just make them monotype and attach them more closely to their type theme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 07:16:56 No.38133324 Report

Quoted By: >>38133672

>>38133261
I think you can have a middle ground by making the gym leader somewhat of a type specialist, the specific type being that of their ace and some of their other party members, but also give them another theme that has nothing to do with types to follow while adding off-type pokemon that support the primary type. All of this while having the on-type pokemon able to cover their weaknesses and in some cases even negate the expected weaknesses with a secondary type would be ideal. At least for late-game gyms, and certainly elite four members. I think it's fine for early-game gyms to be more standard because pokemon variety is usually pretty limited at this point, and you have access to fewer tricks of your own.

That Bruno team basically does that. He only has two fighting types, but on top of Bruno almost always being more of a fighting/rock guy to begin with, all of his pokemon still look physically powerful. Blastoise and Kangaskhan suit him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 07:17:32 No.38133325 Report

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>>38133056

Absolutely not it’s not like we’re deaking with supercomputers

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 07:19:13 No.38133330 Report

Quoted By: >>38134325 >>38134423

>>38133167
Everybody except autists like you does, yes.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 07:44:18 No.38133443 Report

Quoted By: >>38134292

>obvious self inserts
>lots of dialogue with a fanfic tier story
>new OP types

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 08:37:44 No.38133672 Report

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>>38133043
>>38133324
I would just say a simple solution might be 'dual type gyms'

The two types each have some theme related to them, and having two types allows for a gymleader to have a bit more degrees of variability, especially with dual-typed mons where only one type matches the gym itself. From there the ace could the one whose typing matches both.

>>38132884
>Want to make a fangame
>Don't know shit about romhacking/lack the patience
>Nevermind a lot of my ideas are insanely ambitious including fucking rebalancing a shitload of pokemon in terms of stats and movepools (Prime starting example, changing the total BST of all Starters to 540)

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Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 09:09:57 No.38133785 Report

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>>38133048
Grasshole is fantastic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 09:51:22 No.38133954 Report

Quoted By: >>38133964

>>38132884
call me reason of why pokemon games are sperged down, but I hate team of 6 used by gym leader, this is something good for a post game

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 09:53:32 No.38133964 Report

Quoted By: >>38133993

>>38133954
Or a Villain going all out.

Ghetsis and N were great because of this.

Gyms are supposed to be tests not all out battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 09:59:20 No.38133993 Report

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>>38133964
Warning: autism inside.

I actually had an idea once for my own 'deepest lore' version for a Red and Blue romhack. You would be able to find a book on the Official Pokemon League Guide for Gym Leaders which would stress that gym leaders should remember they're meant to teach and thus why it's important to keep to singular typing. And thus a hint to which gym leaders are affiliated with team rocket (Sabrina, Koga, and Surge. Blaine has broken off) is that they not only have six pokemon teams but have pokemon on said teams completely out of their typing meant to hard counter their main type's weaknesses.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 10:02:01 No.38134003 Report

Quoted By: >>38134044

>Play fangame
>No real pokemon, only OCs
>Story revolves around team not-PETA
>Rival is some shitty kaworu fujobait
>Ends up being an actual canon game
wtf bros??????

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 10:13:52 No.38134044 Report

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>>38134003
What's wrong with Gen 7?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 10:18:56 No.38134057 Report

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>play official game
>gym leader uses early route shitmons and metapod/kakuna

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 10:23:28 No.38134079 Report

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>>38133261
His name is Ramos

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 10:25:18 No.38134089 Report

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>play fangame
>Pokemon have arbitrary type changes
Uh, seriously...?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 10:35:01 No.38134129 Report

Quoted By:

>>38132884
>>38132939
Git gud, or grind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 10:39:22 No.38134145 Report

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>play fangame
>sudden extreme spike in difficulty that completely kills my enthusiasm
But why

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 10:39:30 No.38134146 Report

Quoted By: >>38134187

>>38132884
>best trainer in region can't even catch 6 Pokemon and train them
What fucking retarded logic are you trying to shuffle in here? It's retarded to even think Gym leaders should have less than 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 10:45:29 No.38134172 Report

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>fangame
>[player]'s pc doesn't have a potion

Has any of them done this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 10:48:55 No.38134187 Report

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>>38134146
Gym leaders have more than six pokemon you retard. They just use an amount of Pokémon with levels suited to the amount of badges you have. It's why their post-game teams are so different.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 10:53:04 No.38134203 Report

Quoted By: >>38134260

>play fangame
>Choose your gender
>Male, Female, Non-binary
Umm, ew. No, sweetie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 11:04:16 No.38134260 Report

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>>38134203
>No robot option

My dreams of being 2BA Master Are crushed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 11:12:55 No.38134292 Report

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>>38133443
This
>Obvious waifu and pokephilia references

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 11:16:26 No.38134310 Report

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>Not wanting Gym Leaders who can kick your teeth in
Nigga just catch 6 Pokemon and roll with it then swap 'em out as you see fit it's not that hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 11:19:07 No.38134325 Report

Quoted By: >>38134423

>>38133330
no

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Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 11:32:20 No.38134401 Report

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>>38132884
2 - 3 - 3 - 4 - 4 - 5 - 5 - 6
this is how it should be for a rpg like pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 11:35:52 No.38134423 Report

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>>38133330
>>38134325
YES

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Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 11:38:36 No.38134438 Report

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>>38132884
>play fangame

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 11:42:40 No.38134455 Report

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>play fangame
>starter literally sucking your dick
Uh, seriously...?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 12:41:52 No.38134801 Report

Quoted By: >>38134814

>>38132884
>Random main quest/fetch quest kills all the momentum from the run
get cancer and die

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Mar 2019 12:44:16 No.38134814 Report

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>>38134801
Someone hasn't learned from totalbiscuit's mistake.

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