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Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 00:59:17 No.38141231 View View Reply Original Report

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These should've just been new Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 01:00:19 No.38141239 Report

Quoted By: >>38141249 >>38141258 >>38142096 >>38143606 >>38143626 >>38145466

>>38141231
>Pokedex bloat is good!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 01:00:52 No.38141249 Report

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>>38141239
I hope you get raped by a nigger with AIDS faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 01:01:59 No.38141258 Report

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>>38141239
No such thing exists

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 01:02:33 No.38141263 Report

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>>38141231
Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 01:03:54 No.38141277 Report

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>>38141231
>Setting up GF for self plagarism

I see you OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 01:04:09 No.38141279 Report

Quoted By: >>38143708

>>38141231
> Raticate
No
> Ninetales
It could work
> Sandslash
No
> Muk
No
> Persian
No
> Dugtrio
No
> Golem
It could work
> Exeggutor
It could work
> Marowak
Needs a pre-evo and an evo but sure
> Raichu
Only as an evo for Togedemaru in which case it's now Electric/Steel

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Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 01:05:35 No.38141297 Report

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>>38141231
>complaining about alolan forms
>when legendaries are 1/3 of the dex

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 01:13:30 No.38141366 Report

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>>38141231
Fuck you, Vulpux, Muk, and Marowak are kino

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 01:41:22 No.38141639 Report

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>>38141231
They're were a mistake. Exeggutor needed an evolution not a alternative form. Others were ok without any change.

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Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 01:44:58 No.38141671 Report

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>>38141639
>Exeggutor
>Ever getting a legit evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 01:51:08 No.38141710 Report

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>>38141639
The Alola forms aren't "changes", they're alternate forms. Something we've had since Gen 3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 01:53:54 No.38141731 Report

Quoted By: >>38142065 >>38142232 >>38143708

>>38141231
>literal recolors
>new pokemon
how did you figure out how to go on the internet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 02:27:41 No.38142065 Report

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>>38141731
>*should've just been* new Pokemon
How'd you figure out how to go on the internet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 02:30:50 No.38142096 Report

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>>38141231
agreed

>>38141239
>big numbers hurt my brain

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 02:41:46 No.38142229 Report

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>>38141231
>These should've just been new Pokemon.
>The same anon is mad because some Unovamon have trade evos "muh gen 1 pandering even if mechanically and tematecally are totally diferent"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 02:42:05 No.38142232 Report

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>>38141731
To be fair some of them easily could've worked as new Pokemon if they were retooled. The concepts behind the Geodude and Diglett lines especially would've worked just fine, and arguably better, if they had been used for entirely new designs rather than reskins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 04:53:42 No.38143606 Report

Quoted By: >>38145379

>>38141239
I'm not saying you're wrong, but has anyone ever really complained about the opposite?

I do feel some sort of dex reboot is needed though, so many mons can be combined into one and have the order make more sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 04:55:32 No.38143626 Report

Quoted By: >>38147104

>>38141239
Holy fucking shit, can you apologists just shut the fuck up? SM sucked, fucking end yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 04:57:21 No.38143642 Report

Quoted By: >>38145682

>>38141231
>Alolan Golem just gets a beard
holy fucking bad designs Batman

>>38142232
>Geodude and Diglett lines good
Putting a wig on an existing Pokémon is considered good by Alolasomes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 05:04:21 No.38143708 Report

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>>38141279
>>38141731
i interpreted OP as saying that these pokemon slots should have just been completely different and new pokemon designs, which i would agree with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 05:14:19 No.38143800 Report

Quoted By: >>38143821

>>38141231
Aren't they? I mean yeah they share numbers with the originals, but they have different stats, typings, and movepools. And unlike other Alternate forms that do the same like Girantina or Mega Evos. they can't switch between them. they are for all intents and purposes new pokemon that reference older pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 05:16:13 No.38143821 Report

Quoted By: >>38145697

>>38143800
this, they're so scared of the number 1000 that they're coming up with any excuse to drag it out another generation or two. I can easily see them drag it out until gen 10 or 11

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 09:24:58 No.38145035 Report

Quoted By: >>38145051 >>38148446

>>38141231
Gen 7 was the worst. Aside from the improvements in visual and gameplay departments, there were so many shitty new additions.

Z moves were garbage. Alolan forms are a problem now, because they have only been given to mons who don't have megas which means these won't get megas (and also probably evolutions/pre evolutions).

And then they make another shitty remake of kanto that was really not needed, instead of a proper reboot.

Seriously, gamefreak is filled with retarded developers who have no interest in taking advantage of this incredibly popular franchise/brand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 09:26:32 No.38145044 Report

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>>38141231
But they are?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 09:27:51 No.38145051 Report

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>>38145035

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 09:28:16 No.38145055 Report

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>>38141231
But then GF must have come up with new designs instead of just slightly changing the old ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 10:10:16 No.38145276 Report

Quoted By: >>38145500

>104 Pokemon introduced
>18 of them are reskinned old Pokemon
>another 23 are legendaries
>literally 40% of the average-sized Pokedex can be ignored if you only want to use new Pokemon
And people complain about Johto.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 10:23:53 No.38145379 Report

Quoted By: >>38145407 >>38145456

>>38143606
>I do feel some sort of dex reboot is needed though, so many mons can be combined into one and have the order make more sense

I read this idea sometimes:
#001 Bulbasaur > #001a Bulbasaur
#002 Ivysaur > #001b Ivysaur
#003 Venusaur > #001c Venusaur
#004 Charmander > #002a Charmander
#005 Charmaleon > #002b Charmaleon
#006 Charizard > #002c Charizard

And then every number consists in the entire line.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 10:25:13 No.38145386 Report

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>>38141231
They effectively are
>Different types
>Different abilities
>Different movesets
>Different evolution methods
>Different stat distributions

There's really no reason they shouldn't be classified as new Pokemon, they have very little actually shared with the main Pokemon. It's just an excuse for Gamefreak to be lazy with designs.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 10:28:56 No.38145407 Report

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>>38145379
Fun fact: this could make Nidorans and relate some Pokémon in the same line once and for all.
#012a Nidoran female
#012b Nidoran male
#012c Nidorina
#012d Nidorino
#012e Nidoqueen
#012f Nidoking

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 10:31:30 No.38145421 Report

Quoted By: >>38145455

I’m glad you fuckers don’t make video games.
Your ideas suck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 10:37:35 No.38145455 Report

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>>38145421
At least argue why they are shit, if not nobody will care about your opinion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 10:37:42 No.38145456 Report

Quoted By: >>38145541

>>38145379
>>38145407
This would create even bigger clusterfuck, what are you smoking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 10:38:49 No.38145466 Report

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>>38141239
Jesus Christ, when will we start executing autists like this faggot?
>HURR ME NO LIKE BIG NUMBERS, BIG NUMBER BAAAAAAD
It makes absolutely no difference at all, it's a non-issue, a first-world problem if you will.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 10:44:24 No.38145500 Report

Quoted By: >>38145602

>>38145276
>refusing to use Alolan formed despite playing completely different from their standard forms and being new mons in all but number
I don’t feel sorry for you at all, you’re just an autist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 10:48:44 No.38145541 Report

Quoted By: >>38145602

>>38145456
>Reduces the number to the half
>Bigger clusterfuck

Ahem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 10:56:31 No.38145602 Report

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>>38145500
>despite playing completely different from their standard forms
lmao

>>38145541
It's retarded because:
a. You replace numbers with letters which don't solve the problem.
b. You need to accustom yourself to completely new system of numbering
c. It will mix Pokemon with different generations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 10:58:53 No.38145620 Report

Quoted By: >>38147997

>>38141231
Im convinced a lot of those designs were scrapped megas.

Just look at that muk, exeggutor, marowak and golem, with a few tweaks they would be obvious megas

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 11:01:14 No.38145637 Report

Quoted By: >>38145754

>>38145602
Go use Alolan Persian and tell me it plays anything like regular Persian.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 11:09:52 No.38145665 Report

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>>38145602
>c. It will mix Pokemon with different generations.
Well yeah that’s part of the point, not having evolutionary lines grouped together in the Dex is absurd, and the system would be in place to make that possible without changing the number of previous mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 11:13:25 No.38145682 Report

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>>38143642
Nice reading comprehension dumbass. I said the concept behind it is good, representing hair like volcanic glass more literally. The problem with it is that they wasted it on a diglett reskin instead of using it for a completely unique design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 11:16:32 No.38145697 Report

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>>38143821
gen 11? don't make me laugh. I can't see gamefreak doing a literal 20 new Pokemon a gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 11:27:15 No.38145754 Report

Quoted By: >>38145810

>>38145637
>nearly identical stats
>nearly identical movesets
>different playstyle
Nigga, I've played enough Pokemon to see through your bullshit. The difference in typing and one ability (Fur Coat) doesn't magically create a new playstyle. I would still go with [Nasty Plot + STAB + 2x coverage moves] in-game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 11:35:48 No.38145810 Report

Quoted By: >>38145836

>>38145754
>in-game

The in-game sets for 95% of all Pokemon is stab + coverage + maybe a boosting move so this is irrelevant.

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Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 11:43:57 No.38145836 Report

Quoted By: >>38145939

>>38145810
I was talking about the campaign usage in the games since my first post. Did you get lost in the discussion or something?

>The in-game sets for 95% of all Pokemon is stab + coverage + maybe a boosting move
You can get creative every now and then with status moves but it's usually the preferred style, aye.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 12:05:54 No.38145939 Report

Quoted By: >>38146035

>>38145836
The thing is almost all Pokémon run that setup in game, it is not an exclusive relation between regular and Alolan variants, by your logic almost all Pokémon play the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 12:25:32 No.38146035 Report

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>>38145939
The difference in types, stats, abilities and movepools is creating a good enough variety. You are generalizing too much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 13:54:24 No.38146645 Report

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>>38145602
>a. You replace numbers with letters which don't solve the problem.
They actually do
>b. You need to accustom yourself to completely new system of numbering
And?
>c. It will mix Pokemon with different generations.
That would be good

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Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 14:42:18 No.38147044 Report

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>>38145602
>a. You replace numbers with letters which don't solve the problem
Are you implying they need to remove Pokémon to prevent an oversized Pokédex? Letters help to order Pokémon inside the line.

>b. You need to accustom yourself to completely new system of numbering
>My brain cannot process new information easily
Sorry, I forgot what was the point of this thread

>c. It will mix Pokemon with different generations
Yes. If you think reading an evolutionary line as 001a>001b>001c is worse and dirtier than 475>065>299 you are completely retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 14:50:14 No.38147104 Report

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>>38143626
if anything regional forms were one of the only good things about sm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 16:16:24 No.38147752 Report

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>>38141231
Regional Forms were the best thing about S&M.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 16:48:08 No.38147954 Report

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>>38141231
They are new Pokemon retard, just because isn't pants on head retarded Magnemite but gears doesn't mean they aren't new

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 16:56:18 No.38147997 Report

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>>38145620
Alolan Raichu feels like it was a leftover mega design but made it an alolan form to promote the new gimmick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Mar 2019 17:51:51 No.38148446 Report

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>>38145035
>2019
>wont-get-megaposting
Nothing is ever getting a mega ever again regardless

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