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Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2019 06:20:48 No.38220299 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>38220322 >>38220389

How to improve the Ice type.

-keep its super-effective against list
-change its not very effective against Water to normal damage
-remove its Rock-type weakness
-change Normal, Fighting, and Water to not very effective against it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2019 06:24:11 No.38220322 Report

Quoted By: >>38220377

>>38220299
More offensive less defensive, and more physical moves for more mons, only real useful ones are only icepunch and icicle crash, only accessible to 4 lines of Pokemon, for some stupid ass reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2019 06:31:33 No.38220370 Report

Quoted By: >>38220392

Remove Rock an Steel weakness for just Ground
Make it super effective to Bug
Make it resist Water, Normal, Ghost,Psychic and Dark

All ice type moves hav an extra 5 percent chance to inflict frozen status when it's hailing

Physical 90, 100 and 110 BST moves
Make Ice Hammer a TM or an Egg move or Move tutor move along with Aurora Veil

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2019 06:32:35 No.38220377 Report

Quoted By: >>38220393

>>38220322
More physical options that are widespread, definitely.

Glacial Drift: creates and pushes a large ice block at the opponent, 10% chance to either freeze or flinch, 90 power 10 PP

Ice Volley: throws 2-5 snowballs at the target, 25 power 15 PP

Frost Charge: a full-body tackle with an ice-covered body, has a 10% chance to either freeze or paralyze, 85 power 15 PP

Icicle Spear: fires a large icicle at the target, has a 30% chance to lower defense, 80 power 10 PP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2019 06:34:04 No.38220389 Report

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>>38220299
Or, hear me out... we can just make it resist ground and flying and call it a day

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2019 06:35:07 No.38220392 Report

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>>38220370

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2019 06:35:17 No.38220393 Report

Quoted By: >>38220406

>>38220377
>Ice Volley: throws 2-5 snowballs at the target, 25 power 15 PP
Isn't this just Icicle Spear?
>Icicle Spear: fires a large icicle at the target, has a 30% chance to lower defense, 80 power 10 PP
Okay dude no

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2019 06:37:20 No.38220405 Report

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Put Snow Warning on Kyerum, Articuno, Regice, there's no reason why the pokemon said to cause blizzards doesn't have fucking Snow Warning as it's hidden nor does it make sense for Kyreum to not have it while it's in it's normal state

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2019 06:38:18 No.38220406 Report

Quoted By: >>38220412

>>38220393
>Isn't this just Icicle Spear?
I completely forgot that move existed, which is normal for nearly all Ice-type moves not named Ice Beam or Blizzard.
>Okay dude no
What's wrong with it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2019 06:40:39 No.38220412 Report

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>>38220406
>What's wrong with it?
It's Icicle Spear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2019 06:45:29 No.38220448 Report

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Stop fucking locking them to the last 20% of the game.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2019 06:49:35 No.38220472 Report

Quoted By: >>38220483

we just had this thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2019 06:51:17 No.38220483 Report

Quoted By: >>38220503

>>38220472
The hail buff is dumb

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Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2019 06:55:10 No.38220503 Report

Quoted By: >>38220521

>>38220483
You're dumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2019 06:58:33 No.38220521 Report

Quoted By: >>38220557

>>38220503
I’m not. People never address the real issue with hail as a weather

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Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2019 07:08:05 No.38220557 Report

Quoted By: >>38221973

>>38220521
Ok dummy, hit me with your hot take on fixing Hail since people "never address the real issue".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2019 10:15:06 No.38221124 Report

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Try throwing a rock at an ice sheet and see what happens

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2019 13:56:33 No.38221973 Report

Quoted By:

>>38220557
>>38220557
While I do agree that ice itself needs some benefits (such as a defense boost) the real problem with hail is that it’s exclusive to ice types. Look at other weathers. In addition to boosting fire moves, sun activates abilities used by grass Pokémon and weakens water moves, which is great for mons that don’t do well against them like rock types. Rain also weakens fire moves which is great for steel and grass types (and ice too). Sand has 3 types of Pokémon that doesn’t take damage from it and has abilities they can use to activate in sandstorm. Even other Pokémon like Stoutland and Cacturne can benefit from sand, and this is on top of giving rock types a Sp. Def boost. So in order to make hail a good weather is to make changes that benefits ice and other types as well. Something like making weakening flying and ground type moves. Give other Pokémon Slush Rush and Ice body. That way people could see that hail is a thing for ice types and could actually be good

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