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Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 18:50:38 No.38252877 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>38252886 >>38253009 >>38253125 >>38253384 >>38253396 >>38253542

>Ice now resists water and normal
>stealth rock and Sticky web last for 5 turns now
>freeze ailment now saps your health by 1/10th each turn in addition to immobility while frozen
>being afflicted by FREEZE, PARALYZE or SLEEP forces flying types to land for it's duration

how does this affect the metagame?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 18:51:34 No.38252885 Report

Quoted By: >>38253365 >>38253642 >>38253836

No, you can't nerf fucking normal

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 18:52:00 No.38252886 Report

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>>38252877
stop spamming your fucking ice type threads you retard.
congratz to make ice broken overpowered now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 18:56:02 No.38252911 Report

Quoted By: >>38253061

Honestly makes pretty good sense. Kinda surprised Ice doesn't resist water already.

Only thing I don't care for is Ice resisting Normal. Normal as a whole doesn't need to be touched. Maybe make Ice resistant to something else?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 19:10:44 No.38253009 Report

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>>38252877
THANK FUCK THIS STUPID NIGGER GETS NO SAY

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 19:16:25 No.38253061 Report

Quoted By: >>38253086 >>38253093 >>38253226 >>38253238 >>38253679

>>38252911
>DURRRR why doesn't Ice resist Water?
>has no fucking clue how ice and water interact in real life
Because water generally melts ice, because it's warmer? Because if water was cold enough not to melt ice, it'd be FUCKING ICE?
Why doesn't Water resist Electric? Why does Flying beat Bug? DURRRRRRR HURRRRRR
Kill yourself. I'm so fucking sick of these retarded know-nothing niggers shitting up this board with their fucking stupid "balance" ideas. I want you to fucking hang yourself right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 19:18:17 No.38253086 Report

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>>38253061
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 19:19:31 No.38253093 Report

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>>38253061
This doesn't seem like a proportionate response.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 19:22:55 No.38253125 Report

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>>38252877
Normal doesn’t need s nerf

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 19:34:50 No.38253226 Report

Quoted By: >>38253238 >>38253256 >>38254466

>>38253061
Counterargument: Ice as a type also encompasses cold air, which when cold enough can freeze water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 19:36:21 No.38253238 Report

Quoted By: >>38253256

>>38253061
>>38253226
Forgot to also say that we can meet at a middle ground. Have them resist each other.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 19:39:21 No.38253256 Report

Quoted By: >>38253346

>>38253238
>>38253226
No. Freeze-Dry already exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 19:50:37 No.38253346 Report

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>>38253256
Freeze-Dry's gimmick stays intact though. I'm just saying have Water and Ice resist each other since an argument can be made for why both have an advantage over each other.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 19:52:50 No.38253365 Report

Quoted By: >>38253374

>>38252885
Why not?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 19:54:27 No.38253374 Report

Quoted By: >>38254358

>>38253365
because it's already shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 19:56:05 No.38253384 Report

Quoted By: >>38253494 >>38253647

>>38252877
>Nerfing fucking normal of all things

>stealth rock and Sticky web last for 5 turns now
Just use fucking defog already. Why are people so bad at this game?

>freeze ailment now saps your health by 1/10th each turn in addition to immobility while frozen
no

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 19:57:08 No.38253396 Report

Quoted By: >>38253453

>>38252877
Replace Normal with Fairy and you're golden.
Fairies are weak to COLD iron after all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 20:03:28 No.38253453 Report

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>>38253396
cold iron means non-magical, plain iron. It has nothing to do with the temperature of the weapon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 20:07:49 No.38253485 Report

Quoted By: >>38253531

Eh, freeze status is already insanely OP, there's a reason why there's such a low chance(10%) of it happening. Can you imagine if there was a T-Wave equivalent of freeze? They could nerf it so that fire&ice types cant be frozen like grass immune to powders.

I always though ice should be super effect to water because ice freezes water but that'd just make ice moves too OP, and we already have freeze dry to cover that now.

Either way, the best way to balance ice is for GF to just stop making slow tanky ice types because they have one of the worst typings next to rock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 20:08:35 No.38253494 Report

Quoted By: >>38253753

>>38253384
2 moves in the whole fucking game can remove hazards. You really don't see the problem with having one of these on your team pretty much being a requirement?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 20:13:29 No.38253531 Report

Quoted By: >>38253596

>>38253485
Water also melts ice faster than it does in air, so it should go both ways

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 20:15:35 No.38253542 Report

Quoted By: >>38253564

>>38252877
stop trying to change ice types. they were always meant to be an offensive typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 20:18:12 No.38253564 Report

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>>38253542
Yeah? Is that why GF keeps making them slow and bulky?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 20:22:46 No.38253596 Report

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>>38253531
I think it only works that way if water is boiling hot, maybe Scald would be the water version of freeze-dry. But either way I also think they should just resist each other..

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 20:25:01 No.38253616 Report

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>Ice now resists water, electric, fairy, ground
>Ice types now receive a 50% defense boost in hail
>Freeze has a 20% chance of thawing the user every turn
Okay fixed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 20:27:51 No.38253642 Report

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>>38252885
Fpbp, only problem with OP's proposition

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 20:28:18 No.38253647 Report

Quoted By: >>38253712 >>38253753

>>38253384
defog is a waste of a move slot in an otherwise primarily offensive metagame

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 20:31:18 No.38253679 Report

Quoted By: >>38253702

>>38253061
Yeah but what if the water is colder than the ice dumbass. You can't just fucking assume that the temperature of the water is warmer than ice because it suits your argument. Lmfao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 20:34:02 No.38253702 Report

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>>38253679
You can also have water colder than freezing point that doesn’t freeze.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 20:35:07 No.38253712 Report

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>>38253647
It's sucks using a slot on Defog and rapid spin but it's the only way to counter all the spike/stealth rock/web spammers. But defog is infinitely better because it also gets rid of screens, veils and lowers evasion.

I often face people who spend several turn setting up a bunch of entry hazards, only to rage quit once I defog them all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 20:39:49 No.38253753 Report

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>>38253494
No. Have you forgotten there are ways to prevent hazards? And a shit ton of pokemon learn defog anyway. Sticky webs isn't even good atm

>>38253647
Oh well. Have fun with rocks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 20:50:53 No.38253836 Report

Quoted By: >>38253859 >>38253865 >>38253883

>>38252885
Why? I think this slight nerf to normal worth buffing ice. Ice is so shit right now it really needs all the help it can get, and with normal being such a common move type, it really helps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 20:54:00 No.38253859 Report

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>>38253836
It’s definitely not that common.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 20:54:28 No.38253865 Report

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>>38253836
Because normal is already resisted by 2 types and one type that's immune to it. You looked at the whole type chart and thought NORMAL was the most appropriate one? Great job OP. You're really fucking smart aren't you

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 20:57:22 No.38253883 Report

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>>38253836
Normal moves are not common, unless you're talking about the rarely used ambipom, porygon, or rapid spin lol. The biggest offensive normal threat in the game is prob staraptor, and it relies more on flying moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 21:47:03 No.38254358 Report

Quoted By: >>38254441

>>38253374
No it isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 21:55:28 No.38254441 Report

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>>38254358
It’s mediocre and not commonly used at all aside from niche moves like Fake Out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Apr 2019 21:58:25 No.38254466 Report

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>>38253226
But it doesn't. Ice type is the Ice type not the cold type.

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