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>Mewtwo is cloned/genetically altered with Mew's DNA
>Mew is considered the ancestor of all Pokemon
>Mega Stones have Infinity Energy within them
>Certain Stones resonate with Mewtwo because they would probably resonate with Mew
>Mega Evolution occurs
Of course, this is just speculation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 05:08:40 No.38267639 Report

Quoted By: >>38267719 >>38269232

>>38267606
Perhaps it’s only named mewtwonite because it was discovered to have an effect on Mewtwo. It came long before Mewtwo. Chicken and the egg anon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 05:09:58 No.38267651 Report

Quoted By: >>38267662 >>38269473 >>38269603

>>38267635
>Certain Stones resonate with Mewtwo because they would probably resonate with Mew
Yet there's no Mega Mew Y and no Mega Mew X

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 05:12:30 No.38267662 Report

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>>38267651
I know, that's really the best explanation I can think of, considering that Mega Mews wouldn't probably exist because Mewtwo's DNA was altered at the right points to cause a reaction when it normally wouldn't with Mew.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 05:12:36 No.38267665 Report

Quoted By: >>38267719 >>38269232 >>38269254

Dude megastones are just stones that happen to interact with some pokemon they didn't come out of the pokemon in any way so why does it matter if mewtwo was born in an experiment? Hell, didn't ORAS megastones come from space or some shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 05:18:55 No.38267691 Report

Quoted By: >>38269312

>>38267606
Toys come first

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 05:21:16 No.38267705 Report

Quoted By: >>38269314

Didn't they retcon Mr. Fuji into making it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 05:22:42 No.38267715 Report

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>>38267606
Because remember how much money the mewtwo movie made us? We like money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 05:23:06 No.38267719 Report

Quoted By: >>38269232

>>38267639
>>38267665
this, it's not hard to understand
the radiation produced by mewtwonite resonates with mewtwo and no one else
there are probably a lot of mega stones that seemingly do nothing because no one has exposed the right species to them yet

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 05:24:24 No.38267723 Report

Quoted By: >>38269612

All in all I think it's pretty hilarious that they look like random marbles

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 05:26:20 No.38267727 Report

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>>38267606
Lore has been being raped since 2006, no use pondering about them now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 05:28:43 No.38267735 Report

Quoted By: >>38267743

>>38267606
Why not just 2 or 3 mega stones instead of having one for every mega pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 05:31:22 No.38267743 Report

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>>38267735
to give you something else to collect
same reason species-specific Z-Moves require their own Z-Crystal

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 05:32:11 No.38267749 Report

Quoted By: >>38267758

>>38267606
My guess is that it was in the area when the flower canon went off, but being strong enough to not die from it Mewtwo still needed to rest, so the stray pokemon took him to the cave you end up finding him in along with the Mega Stone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 05:33:06 No.38267758 Report

Quoted By: >>38269266

>>38267749
what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 08:00:27 No.38268445 Report

Quoted By: >>38269232

>>38267606
It's a natural mineral that happens to react to Mewtwo. The name comes after the observation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 09:32:02 No.38268802 Report

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>>38267606
Never understood this retarded argument. What the fuck does that even mean? How do you even know how a Pokemon associates to a stone? Retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 11:50:39 No.38269232 Report

Quoted By: >>38269276 >>38269330

>>38267639
>>38267665
>>38267719
>>38268445
But why and how does the stone have an effect with Mewtwo in the first place?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 11:55:53 No.38269254 Report

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>>38267665
There isn't really a single explanation for where Mega Stones come from. In X and Y it's said they came from the Ultimate Weapon irradiating evolution stones, and in ORAS it's said they fell to Earth whenever Rayquaza destroyed an asteroid. The easiest explanation is that both the Ultimate Weapon and Rayquaza infused existing stones with Infinity Energy, turning them into Mega Stones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 11:56:44 No.38269256 Report

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>>38267633
because it's not

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 11:57:59 No.38269266 Report

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>>38267758
I think they're trying to imply that Mewtwo was in the vicinity when Lysandre fired off the Ultimate weapon, and his energy signature being nearby caused the creation of a stone that reacts to him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 11:59:53 No.38269276 Report

Quoted By: >>38269283

>>38269232
It could be a number of reasons. The simplest explanation is that by random coincidence a stone was created by the Ultimate weapon that resonates with Mewtwo's DNA or some shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:01:25 No.38269282 Report

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>implying mega shits make sense in the first place

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:01:31 No.38269283 Report

Quoted By: >>38269295

>>38269276
HOW? It didn’t even exist yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:03:43 No.38269295 Report

Quoted By: >>38269332

>>38269283
Like I said, by complete random chance. I know it's not a great comparison, but think of it as a Sword in the Stone-type scenario. The sword and mega stone existed first, but the only individual who could use it didn't come along until much later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:06:55 No.38269312 Report

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>>38267691
This guy gets it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:07:16 No.38269313 Report

Quoted By: >>38269339

How does any Mega stone exist? Like, what makes a Blazikenite work specifically on Blaziken?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:07:54 No.38269314 Report

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>>38267705
>retcon
Wasn't it always heavily implied?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:09:41 No.38269323 Report

Quoted By: >>38269615

>>38267606
The scientist made it you stupid idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:12:16 No.38269330 Report

Quoted By: >>38269335

>>38269232
Same way Mega Stones affect any Pokémon mate. Whether products of artificial or natural selection, certain species apparently just react to stones imbued with certain radiation signatures. Doesn't make any more or less sense if the species is artificial.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:12:43 No.38269332 Report

Quoted By: >>38269335 >>38269349

>>38269295
But how does it react to Mewtwo specifically? Mega stones only work with one Pokémon, so how is there one that specifically works with Mewtwo, a Pokémon that hasn’t even existed yet? And I’m not taking the “random chance” reason, because that’s bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:13:47 No.38269335 Report

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>>38269330
>>38269332

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:14:06 No.38269338 Report

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>>38267606
Mr. Fuji made it, or it's just a natural rock that was renamed that that just happened to work with Mewtwo.
>>38267633
Team Rocket didn't make Mewtwo in the games, Mr. Fuji and a bunch of scientists did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:14:57 No.38269339 Report

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>>38269313
The wording in the various media implies that the stone and the Pokemon have compatible or similar "energy signatures". So maybe it's just some kind of energy that only reacts to a certain Pokemon's DNA or fuck maybe their aura.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:17:21 No.38269349 Report

Quoted By: >>38269365 >>38269515

>>38269332
Same way Blazikenite works on Blaziken, it just carries the right amount or type of radiation. In most cases the Pokémon likely came before their stone match, but for Mewtwonite there simply wasn't a Pokémon match until the modern era.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:18:14 No.38269353 Report

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Or, it's actually Mewnite and Mew is just so rare and barely seen that they had to name it Mewtwonite because he's seen more regularly by comparison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:20:46 No.38269365 Report

Quoted By: >>38269404 >>38269440 >>38269450 >>38269465 >>38269644

>>38269349
So there was a stone specifically for a Pokémon that hasn’t existed yet? That makes no fucking sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:21:06 No.38269368 Report

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Megas were a mistake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:23:01 No.38269378 Report

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>>38267606
The question I asked myself when Mega Mewtwo XandY was debuted. The only answer I can come up with using the "Mega Stones are life energy of Pokemon" line is Mewtwo did exist but they went extinct around the time of the war.

Mewtwo may not be as artificial as we are lead to believe, just a clone of an extinct Pokemon that did battle in the war.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:24:25 No.38269386 Report

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>>38267606
Because Mewtwo is becoming competitively irrelevant and we need to buff it
Plot structure and common sense comes later

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:25:24 No.38269394 Report

Quoted By: >>38269421

>>38267606
I had always wondered about this, All the stones being found underground or some shit and this fucker isn't even a real pokemon and earth just shits out 2 mega stones for him

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:27:12 No.38269404 Report

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>>38269365
If the stones were created by the ultimate weapon then how does Mewtwo existing before the stone change anything? It still managed to create a stone that reacts to Mewtwo's specific energy signature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:28:30 No.38269408 Report

Quoted By: >>38269437

People trying to come up with all these elaborate reasons, when people forget Occam's Razor.

simpler solutions are more likely to be correct than complex ones.

The most likely answer is that Game Freak fucked up their lore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:30:43 No.38269421 Report

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>>38269394
The stones were seemingly created by infusing existing minerals with infinity energy, and we have four confirmed occurrences that created mega stones: Both times the ultimate weapon was fired off, and both times Rayquaza destroyed an incoming asteroid. It just so happens that infinity energy was able to create a stone with an energy signature that matched a Pokemon that didn't exist yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:35:27 No.38269437 Report

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>>38269408
More like they don't give a damn anymore, that's why they had to pull the multiverse card so that no matter what retarded shit slips by them they can blame it on being from the multiverse

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:36:02 No.38269440 Report

Quoted By: >>38269463 >>38269515

>>38269365
It makes no less sense than there being stones for Pokémon that did exist anon. It's not like the stones evolved in parallel with the naturally selected species, the stones were randomly created by extreme bursts of energy and some species simply happened to react to some stones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:38:23 No.38269450 Report

Quoted By: >>38269455 >>38269464

>>38269365
It's entirely possible there's a ton of stones out there that were created that are considered useless because they haven't found a Pokemon that it works on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:40:42 No.38269455 Report

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>>38269450
Exactly this. A new Pokémon could emerge in a million years with just the right DNA to react to a stone that might be no more significant than granite in our era.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:42:56 No.38269463 Report

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>>38269440
Thank you for explaining it better than I did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:43:11 No.38269464 Report

Quoted By: >>38269501

>>38269450
What if key stones are just mega stones that didn't react to any pokemon?
We don't really have any origin for them either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:43:17 No.38269465 Report

Quoted By: >>38269487

>>38269365
Fate did it.
This is really fucking simple, dude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:44:49 No.38269473 Report

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>>38267651
Because despite being a clone of Mew, Mewtwo is still a different Pokemon. There's a reason why the random rocks on the side of the road don't work as Mega Stones, because Charizartwo hasn't been created yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:48:18 No.38269487 Report

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>>38269465
Fuck that

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:51:51 No.38269501 Report

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>>38269464
It's likely a lot that is the case. Just like stones exist for the sole purpose of fucking with genetic code. Moon Stones, Fire Stones, Leaf/Glaceon's stones, etc.

Just just reacts differently because of how it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:55:04 No.38269515 Report

Quoted By: >>38269531 >>38269551 >>38269568

>>38269349
>>38269440
But how can it react specifically to a Pokémon that wasn’t even a thing? How can it know its exact genetic structure to be compatible with it?
And there are TWO of these things

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 12:59:25 No.38269531 Report

Quoted By: >>38269549

>>38269515
It doesn't "know" shit. By sheer random chance and/or fate, the stones were imbued with radiation that reacts with Mewtwo.
Mawilite doesn't "know" what a Mawile is, either. It just produces a radiation signature that reacts to Mawile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 13:02:57 No.38269549 Report

Quoted By: >>38269557

>>38269531
>It’s random lol
Bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 13:03:09 No.38269551 Report

Quoted By: >>38269564

>>38269515
Again anon, the stones didn't specifically appear to affect a certain Pokémon. What came first, the elemental stones or Eevee, Pikachu, etc? It just so happens that certain energy signatures cause certain Pokémon's DNA to accelerate in unprecedented ways. Blazikenite would have existed without Blaziken (albeit as a seemingly insignificant mineral) and Blaziken would have existed without Blazikenite, but since both exist the interaction is possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 13:04:25 No.38269557 Report

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>>38269549
That's a bit reductionist of you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 13:05:23 No.38269564 Report

Quoted By: >>38269571

>>38269551
So what you’re saying is that there are some mega stones that can react to more than one Pokémon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 13:05:56 No.38269568 Report

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>>38269515
A megastone activates when a pokemon takes a piss on a magic rock, mewtwo got drunk and pissed on one of this rocks or two. Now go see a doctor so he can tell you what the fuck is wrong with your brain and you will get welfare bucks or some shit. You need it and it shows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 13:06:34 No.38269571 Report

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>>38269564
That's obviously up to Game Freak, but based on what we know about evolutionary stones of any kind it wouldn't be out of the ordinary for the franchise

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 13:09:34 No.38269584 Report

Quoted By: >>38269590

>>38267606
Remember that in pokémon conquest there is mewtwo
In the movies there are 2 mewtwo (1 of the first film, the other one is in the 6th gen film)
So it's not just made from team rocket/mr fuji

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 13:11:29 No.38269590 Report

Quoted By: >>38269599

>>38269584
Spin-off games and the anime don't share a canon with the core series games

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 13:14:15 No.38269599 Report

Quoted By: >>38269605

>>38269590
Ranger does, and there's a Mewtwo in the third.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 13:15:17 No.38269603 Report

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>>38267651
In my head at least, the X and the Y stones react to Mewtwo because its X/Y chromosomes are all jumbled about and mutated or something. Maybe Y is traditionally male and X is female, dunno what that says about Charizard though...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 13:15:47 No.38269605 Report

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>>38269599
There's never been a game with more than one Mewtwo in-game though, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 13:17:41 No.38269612 Report

Quoted By: >>38269625

>>38267723
Pretty sure there was gonna be a Mega Bracelet toy or something that came with maybe, a 'Mega Stone' and a TCG card for that Mega maybe. Can buy packs of the marbles and cards seperately. That's just my opinion anyway, otherwise they could've looked like ANYTHING

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 13:18:12 No.38269615 Report

Quoted By:

>>38269323
t. mewtwocuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 13:20:28 No.38269625 Report

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>>38269612
Knowing Game Freak you'll probably need the $40 Mega Bracelet toy and the corresponding marbles to use Megas when we inevitably get Pokémon Let's Go Togepi and Marill

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 13:23:14 No.38269644 Report

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>>38269365
It's Pokemon you fucking autist, their very existence doesn't make sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 14:21:37 No.38269951 Report

Quoted By: >>38270049

God I hate Mewtwo's megas so much. Ugly as sin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2019 14:39:00 No.38270049 Report

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>>38269951
I think Mewtwo Y and Charizard X are the reason I hated megas for so long. They're just so ugly, and they were front-and-center in the marketing.
A lot of the other designs suck, but those two are especially bad (and were especially shilled).

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