>>38388800Yeah this thread isn't about Water types but every time it's yet another thread about Ice Pokemon, they keep focussing on nerfing Water or resist it, and I don't understand it. The Water/Ice relations is fine. We should focus on Ice types in general, and the fact Freeze Dry exists is enough for some Ice mons to deal with Water.
Real problem with Ice are:
* lack of resistances (Ground resist and Flying resist are more than enough to be a boon: slow and bulky isn't being helped by this)
* shallow movepool (more physical Ice moves needed, and some nice signature moves on Ice legends, such as buffing Glaciate to a - 2 speed attack and not a slightly stronger Icy Wind, and repurposing the other two signature moves of Kyurem)
* Hail specific abilities that are of little purpose (why does everything need Snow Cloak and Icy Body as a Hidden Ability? One of those abilities can be innate to all Ice mons if they keep refusing to + 50% defence boost, but things like Slush Rush is a lot better and more suitable for many)
Plenty more of that actually but it seems Gamefreak "paid attention" to Ice types more these days, but are too dumb to give them actual buffs.
