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>>38406263
>lose in the first round of every tournament
>first rival to lose to a friend of ash
>final match with ash is a 1v1
>replaced by some dude with a riolu
All the unova rivals were pretty bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Apr 2019 22:32:37 No.38406286 Report

Quoted By: >>38406289

>>38406258
Who?
I honestly don't remember this guy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Apr 2019 22:33:15 No.38406289 Report

Quoted By: >>38406301 >>38406309

>>38406286
its paul but white

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Apr 2019 22:35:50 No.38406301 Report

Quoted By: >>38406350 >>38411613

>>38406289
Why do you think he's white?
Most characters in unova have japanese names.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Apr 2019 22:36:52 No.38406308 Report

Quoted By: >>38406331

Certainly the one with the most anti-climactic ending. Ash beats the Pokémon he's defeated before in a 1 on 1 battle, it was so obvious the writers didn't care about him and just wanted to get to the N arc as soon as possible.

Still at least he got an ending. The other Unova rivals were just abandoned with an ending theme cameo as the closest thing to a goodbye they got.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Apr 2019 22:37:06 No.38406309 Report

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>>38406289
Paul is based but this kid sucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Apr 2019 22:40:01 No.38406331 Report

Quoted By: >>38408795 >>38413873

>>38406308
Who was that guy with the eevees who wins the entire tournament with 3 mons?
How shitty are unova trainers if they lose to that...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Apr 2019 22:42:01 No.38406346 Report

Quoted By: >>38406364 >>38406365

>>38406258
Trip was just a boring smug racist who likes trivial things like taking pitures well unova is based on the U.S so that not uncommon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Apr 2019 22:42:16 No.38406350 Report

Quoted By: >>38406369 >>38406374

>>38406301
do you think hilda and hilbert are japanese names

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Apr 2019 22:44:34 No.38406364 Report

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>>38406346
Based on the U.S. while also having japanese school uniforms and taoism?
And no based kinda off of N.Y. in the sense that multiple cultures mix together.
Although I don't think there was any mixing in unova, everything seemed separate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Apr 2019 22:44:40 No.38406365 Report

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>>38406346
Based factposter

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Apr 2019 22:45:36 No.38406369 Report

Quoted By: >>38408820

>>38406350
their real names are touko and touya, the dub is no canon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Apr 2019 22:46:00 No.38406374 Report

Quoted By: >>38408820

>>38406350
No but tokou and toya are, which are the canon names.
Serena however actually has a western name in the japanese versions.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 Apr 2019 22:52:45 No.38406424 Report

Quoted By: >>38406470 >>38411565

Is he the best rival in the franchise?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Apr 2019 22:58:18 No.38406470 Report

Quoted By: >>38406476

>>38406424
Who?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Apr 2019 23:00:04 No.38406476 Report

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>>38406470
Stuven.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 Apr 2019 23:01:42 No.38406485 Report

Quoted By: >>38408457 >>38408698 >>38413458 >>38417705

Here is the real, most indisputably shit rival in the entire series.
>Ash, but blander and nicer
>Ash, but his Pokemon are stronger
>Uses stickers and nicknames his mons like an autist
>Gets an undeserved victory on a technicality
>Ash never resolves their rivalry and beats him, despite meeting up with again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Apr 2019 23:19:57 No.38406577 Report

Quoted By: >>38408851

>>38406258
As much I like Hau I can't stop thinking that he can take this place easily.

> Appear in only one episode. Win his first battle with Ash and lose after 6 minutes of training by le comedy relief bird.
>Maybe the only kid who don't gate a Z-Ring.
>He will probably have only Decidueye or some random mon like Alain
>Le comedy relief Bird can beat his ace with Brave Bird.

Trip did nothing but Hau is just irrelevant in the anime

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 03:49:36 No.38408255 Report

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>>38406272
shit taste

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 04:04:04 No.38408325 Report

Quoted By: >>38408797

Anyone remember Trevor from XY? Yeah, I don't either

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 04:05:42 No.38408335 Report

Quoted By: >>38408355

>>38406277
> Replaced by some retard with a Riolu
Fixed it for you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 04:07:12 No.38408344 Report

Quoted By: >>38414620

Why can't the writers create a rival as good as Paul? Was Paul the peak of character writing for a rival?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 04:08:37 No.38408355 Report

Quoted By: >>38413486

>>38408335
Why was gen 5 just so fucking awful in general?
>worst selling mainline games
>worst pmd
>worst anime season

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 04:30:46 No.38408457 Report

Quoted By: >>38409331 >>38414717

>>38406485
how is nicknaming pokemon autistic?
also richie was the reason i started doing it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 05:22:23 No.38408698 Report

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>>38406485
I liked when Misty beat the shit of him though, that was hot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 05:50:14 No.38408789 Report

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>>38406277
stephen was based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 05:51:22 No.38408795 Report

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>>38406331
you're mixing up virgil and cameron, virgil was the guy with all the eevees, and cameron was the retard who showed up with five mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 05:52:02 No.38408797 Report

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>>38408325
i do, because charizard y deserved better than getting utterly stomped by alain, i hate that guy and his stupidly OP zard x

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 05:59:01 No.38408820 Report

Quoted By: >>38408835 >>38411673

>>38406369
>>38406374
Jap names get retconned the moment localization happens. Sorry bud.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 06:01:40 No.38408835 Report

Quoted By: >>38408844

>>38408820
It's a japanese series, the only canon that matters is the japanese canon.
Sorry mutt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 06:02:56 No.38408844 Report

Quoted By: >>38408850

>>38408835
Dumb weeb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 06:04:11 No.38408850 Report

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>>38408844
>he says while also playing a japanese series

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 06:04:43 No.38408851 Report

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>>38406577
Hau isn't even a rival nor is his arc finished

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 08:24:35 No.38409331 Report

Quoted By:

>>38408457
It's dumb when practically no one does it in the series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 08:32:47 No.38409358 Report

Quoted By: >>38409413

>>38406258
>Let's take Cheren but change his design to some generic anime NPC
What were they thinking of?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 08:56:01 No.38409413 Report

Quoted By: >>38409429

>>38409358
Why didn't they just use Cheren?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 09:00:14 No.38409429 Report

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>>38409413
Cheren ended up getting an episode to shill his character from B2W2, but I doubt the producers knew that was going to happen when they wrote Trip, so I don't know why we couldn't just have Cheren.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 10:28:46 No.38409741 Report

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>>38406258
I forgot he existed honestly

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 11:23:03 No.38409907 Report

Quoted By: >>38409999 >>38410018

>>38406258
Something had to be sacrificed. Afterall, a series can't have best rival and best girl at once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 11:49:08 No.38409999 Report

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>>38409907
Iris was sort of also a rival to Ash at the same time as she traveled with him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 11:54:40 No.38410018 Report

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>>38409907
Only BEST gen V anime had was the word in the anime title - BEST WISHES, everything else was utter shit, especially plot, art style and animation

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 17:05:26 No.38411480 Report

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>>38406258
>Best Wishes is shit
More news at 11

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 17:06:39 No.38411489 Report

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>>38406258
Yeah he was bad. For all the shit he said about Kanto you would think he would do 6v6 with Ash in the league with Ash using his old kanto mons to stomp
>>38406272
He was more of a friend than a rival

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 17:12:46 No.38411531 Report

Quoted By: >>38412027 >>38413505

It makes me wonder why people complain Ash has no rival at all like AG or the first 2/3rd's of XY when BW tried a new rival and it was shit. The fact that even after all these years, only Gary and Paul really stood out of all the rivals Ash has had in the series, really puts into perspective how hard it is to make a good rival. And for Gary it's mostly just the nostalgia surrounding him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 17:19:26 No.38411565 Report

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>>38406424
He was probably one of the best parts of BW. He and Bianca were the only competent recurring rivals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 17:28:00 No.38411613 Report

Quoted By: >>38412016

>>38406301
>implying names are an indication of race
If people didn’t have names, how would you know their race retard?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 17:39:03 No.38411673 Report

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>>38408820
>retconned
you don't know what that word means.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 18:32:50 No.38412016 Report

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>>38411613
They are...
Most white people don't have asian names and vice versa.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 18:35:36 No.38412027 Report

Quoted By: >>38412138 >>38412149

>>38411531
Gary and Ash honestly had a shit rivalry, their episodes together in DP were way better and they were friends then. Ash and Gary only fought like twice in Kanto and Johto and he only showed up once every 20 episodes to say something rude and leave, he's really overrated

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 18:52:01 No.38412138 Report

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>>38412027
Gary getting his rude awakening from a random one of non established character in the Indigo league to just to scare Ash was also kind of a waste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 18:53:20 No.38412149 Report

Quoted By: >>38412175

>>38412027
Gary was only in 3 Johto eps prior to the start of the league. Can you imagine a 150+ ep saga and Gary only appeared in 3 episodes before the actual league conference? Goddamn. And for the first one in the Hoot Hoot episode, Gary is only there for like the first 2 minutes of the episode and disappears.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 18:57:04 No.38412175 Report

Quoted By: >>38412380

>>38412149
Seems like a waste to not use Gary more considering how little even went on in Jhoto. Instead we got a drawn out whirl Island arc, the starter trio doing cute shit episodes and the return of one off filler characters

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 19:25:10 No.38412380 Report

Quoted By: >>38412394

>>38412175
I remember a theory going around the fandom a decade ago that Gary's Japanese VA never liked the character and that's why he has so few appearances in the series, but I don't know if that was ever proven though. Even when he came back for the DP series, Gary only appeared in 3 episodes out of a 191 ep series. They didn't even have Gary meet Paul which feels like a missed opportunity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 19:27:17 No.38412394 Report

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>>38412380
That sounds like a hear say rumour. I saw the writers didn't really know what to do with Gary and only ever brought him back for fan service

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 19:38:02 No.38412460 Report

Quoted By: >>38412490

Even in Sun/Moon the writers didn't bring Gary back for any of the Kanto nostalgia eps with Misty/Brock, so he'll probably never appear in the series again. His last appearance was 11 years ago in 2009 during the Team galactic finale.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 19:42:35 No.38412490 Report

Quoted By: >>38412518 >>38413457

>>38412460
In Sinnoh hell, like Botch and Cassidy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 19:46:51 No.38412518 Report

Quoted By: >>38412786

>>38412490
DP was basically the end of the road for most of the older main characters, besides Oak/Delia. Even Brock barely appeared since 2010...I think he has just 6 episodes since then (the 4 SM eps, his DP special at his Gym, and he appeared in a Cilan special in 2013)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 20:28:51 No.38412786 Report

Quoted By: >>38413333

>>38412518
This makes sense since DP was the end of Ash's OS-DP arc. BW was essentially an entire reset.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 21:35:34 No.38413333 Report

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>>38412786
Last time to since we properly saw any of Ash's mons that aren't Bulbasaur, Charizard the 30 Touras

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 21:47:56 No.38413457 Report

Quoted By: >>38413907

>>38412490
His name is Bipp

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 21:48:00 No.38413458 Report

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>>38406485

they should've brought Ritchie back for XY as a parallel Ash rival

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 21:51:08 No.38413486 Report

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>>38408355

they went all-in on the reboot idea which off-put a bunch of people. Anime especially.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 21:53:53 No.38413505 Report

Quoted By: >>38413511 >>38413548

>>38411531
>when BW tried a new rival

literally a Paul knock-off in design and personality is not trying something new. It's lazy rehashing.

I'd actually like a different rival from Paul and Gary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 21:54:29 No.38413511 Report

Quoted By: >>38413614

>>38413505
Alan?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 21:57:58 No.38413548 Report

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>>38413505
>I'd actually like a different rival from Paul and Gary.
And that is how the monkey paw gave us Cameron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 22:06:08 No.38413614 Report

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>>38413511
A lawn is mediocre. Introduced far too late and was just there to be the more developed Tobias of the Kalos League.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 22:36:59 No.38413873 Report

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>>38406331
He never even got a Sylveon which was the only understandable reason to have a trainer who only used Eeveelutions when X and Y was around the corner. Almost everything about that league was a joke.

The battle with Stephan was alright though, in any other league it wouldn't be the best fight but considering the competition not being terrible was enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2019 22:40:30 No.38413907 Report

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>>38413457
You mean buff

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 00:04:22 No.38414620 Report

Quoted By: >>38415991

>>38408344
Gladion and Gary are great rivals you dumbass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 00:18:03 No.38414717 Report

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>>38408457
>also richie was the reason i started doing it
then you inherited his autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 03:19:52 No.38415991 Report

Quoted By: >>38417623

>>38414620
But nowhere near as good as Paul. Did you not read what I said?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 05:16:53 No.38416638 Report

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>>38406258
the better question is,
>Was B/W the worst series in the franchise?
the answer is a resounding "yes"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 09:49:50 No.38417623 Report

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>>38415991
They both developed amazingly and had great battles with Ash. You should be glad that they weren’t bullied and harassed so much like Paul but he did deserve it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 10:15:39 No.38417705 Report

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>>38406485
We should have gotten an Alolan Ash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 10:28:30 No.38417736 Report

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>>38406258

>uses a serperior vs a DARMANITAN
>uses LEER
>OHKO's with SOLAR BEAM
>champion praises him for his FLAWLESS strategy

still one of the most hilarious things to happen in the pokeanime.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 13:12:06 No.38418328 Report

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>>38406258

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