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Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2019 20:23:44 No.38438002 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>38438018 >>38438026 >>38438087 >>38438096 >>38438100 >>38438102 >>38438121 >>38438140 >>38438144 >>38439749 >>38440938 >>38441948 >>38442153 >>38442182

>Gym puzzle punishes failure with a forced trainer battle
>Everyone intentionally fails so they can battle the trainer for exp and gold
How do we fix this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2019 20:25:50 No.38438018 Report

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>>38438002
we don't

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2019 20:26:15 No.38438019 Report

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>gold
go back pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2019 20:26:47 No.38438026 Report

Quoted By: >>38438033 >>38438035 >>38438039 >>38438104 >>38438349 >>38438605 >>38442059 >>38442126

>>38438002
Let's just fix grinding all together:

>Battling wild pokemon and trainers that are *insert arbitrary number* of levels below you triggers a text box prompting you to either auto-win or to battle them normally

Yes or no?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2019 20:28:30 No.38438033 Report

Quoted By: >>38438049

>>38438026
no, adding more babby features is the opposite way this series should go

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2019 20:28:39 No.38438035 Report

Quoted By: >>38438049

>>38438026
are you trying to change pokémon to a fucking mobile game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2019 20:29:01 No.38438039 Report

Quoted By: >>38438049

>>38438026
no

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2019 20:30:29 No.38438049 Report

Quoted By: >>38438299 >>38442059

>>38438033
>>38438035
>>38438039

I was thinking more of an Earthbound or Super Mario RPG when you got the starman kind of feel, But I guess not.

Thanks for being honest

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2019 20:32:04 No.38438063 Report

Quoted By: >>38441948

everytime you fail a gym puzzle, the forced battle will not give you anything. no xp, no money, nothing. only a fucking headache and tired mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2019 20:34:29 No.38438083 Report

Quoted By: >>38439749 >>38441896

Maybe a focus on puzzles that afflict your Pokemon with damaging effects could work - failure in an Electric Gym might result in paralysing your team (or at least the first pokemon in your team; the scope of damage could scale based on the number Gym) before you are forced to undertake a battle. Other status conditions, or damage to PP/HP could also be factors, depending on the puzzle. The puzzle itself would then just need to somehow be tasteful in doing this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2019 20:35:06 No.38438087 Report

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>>38438002
Man this map is great even if it’s trade server only.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2019 20:36:03 No.38438096 Report

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>>38438002
>golds

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2019 20:36:09 No.38438100 Report

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>>38438002
By making trials in every other game, gyms are lame and basically just some free exp and money from beating up easy shit with a set theme

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2019 20:36:18 No.38438102 Report

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>>38438002
After beating the Gym Leader, talking to underlings you didn't battle rewards a Rare Candy/Nugget/Whatever

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2019 20:36:40 No.38438104 Report

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>>38438026
>auto-win

Me thinks not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2019 20:39:46 No.38438121 Report

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>>38438002
Make it so if you fail the question, the trainer you battle doesn't give you exp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2019 20:40:51 No.38438127 Report

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No more levels or exp

All battles are decided by wits

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2019 20:42:13 No.38438140 Report

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>>38438002
We force a path that hits all the trainers on the way, of course.
Only retards skip trainer battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2019 20:43:03 No.38438142 Report

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Do what gen 5 did and scale exp

The higher level you were vs the pokemon you fought determined how much exp you received. It made it hard to over grind bc you eventually got too little exp from low leveled pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2019 20:43:15 No.38438144 Report

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>>38438002
We only allow to fight gym leaders once all trainers have been defeated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2019 20:59:09 No.38438268 Report

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exp gained from things that aren;t battling? the only reason to avoid trainers in a maze is if it awarded xp and maybe buffs to speed or evasion, or if answering quizzes correctly awared xp plus buffs relevant to the question.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2019 21:02:07 No.38438299 Report

Quoted By: >>38442059

>>38438049
I really doubt they've played them or the Dragon Quest games that use that type of encounter system

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2019 21:08:59 No.38438349 Report

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>>38438026
Naw, son.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2019 21:27:18 No.38438537 Report

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Missable trainer battles are a mistake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2019 21:36:39 No.38438605 Report

Quoted By: >>38441883

>>38438026
better: just create a hard level cap based on your gym badges

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2019 22:21:41 No.38438933 Report

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>>38438102
seems like the best approach. good idea!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2019 00:04:32 No.38439749 Report

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>>38438002
give equivalent XP and Poke for completing the gym puzzle
alternatively, >>38438083

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2019 02:50:31 No.38440938 Report

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>>38438002
Gyms should have level restrictions like with online play or with battle facilities, where every Pokemon is automatically set to a level that scales along with the pacing of the game (so maybe level 10 for the first gym, level 20 for the second gym, etc.) The only fight that grants EXP would be the leader, and it isn't applied to any of your Pokemon until after the match is over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2019 05:30:04 No.38441883 Report

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>>38438605
PokeMMO did this, and it works well

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2019 05:32:31 No.38441896 Report

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>>38438083
Imagine if Skyla's gym had a bunch of walls in it and if you launched out of cannons at the wrong time/direction, your entire team took a minor chunk of damage (1/8 at absolute worst)

This is a pain in the ass to heal off, but not significant enough that 1 or 2 mistakes costs you a trip to the Pokemon center.

Or, you know the simple answer >>38438121

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2019 05:45:59 No.38441948 Report

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>>38438002

Fix it with either this:
>>38438063

OR

You CANNOT exit a gym once you enter. Can be taken further to disallow healing items in/out of battle. But I think forcing you to use your healing items is fine because then you actually use them and spend your money. Not to mention no one will want to use their low PP moves or want to use up their PP max items.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2019 06:16:11 No.38442059 Report

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>>38438026
>>38438049
>>38438299
The anon calling it a babby feature is a retard, but the Earthbound system wouldn't really work in a game that's almost entirely based around the random encounters. It's also not really necessary since the game's solution is to make many grass patches avoidable. Earthbound doesn't do it to fix grinding, it does it to stop low level random encounters being annoying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2019 06:37:11 No.38442126 Report

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>>38438026
That already exists for wild pokemon, its called "run", or better yet just use fucking repels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2019 06:45:30 No.38442153 Report

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>>38438002
Have it set up so that you either start at the beginning or battle someone

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2019 06:52:15 No.38442182 Report

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>>38438002
the ghost quiz gym in plat was awesome for messing the maths up to fight extra trainers

same as the quiz show gym in X/Y in the Eiffel tower

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