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Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 16:38:02 No.38453265 View View Reply Original Report

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Whats /vp/'s opinion about evolve by trade?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 16:38:47 No.38453270 Report

Quoted By: >>38453282 >>38456260

>>38453265
It's shit, and nearly ever Mon that evos by it is fairly based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 16:39:10 No.38453274 Report

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In itself, it's fine. It gives you strong pokemon early in the story.
With a hold item is when it sucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 16:40:15 No.38453282 Report

Quoted By: >>38453512 >>38455036

>>38453270
>Good Pokemon being harder to get

Who could have foreseen this turn of events

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 16:40:27 No.38453284 Report

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>>38453265
shouldnt exist for switch

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 16:40:28 No.38453285 Report

Quoted By: >>38453818 >>38460568

>>38453265
Doesn't make any sense lorewise and why the fuck some of them need completely artificial items?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 16:42:32 No.38453301 Report

Quoted By: >>38453420 >>38454284

It's an archaic system and it's clear since they haven't used it since Gen 4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 16:42:44 No.38453304 Report

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>>38453265
I wish there was a way to get them without trading while also keeping them trade evolutions

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 16:43:39 No.38453309 Report

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>>38453265
it made sense in the first game when you had a small number of very strong pokemon that you got through trading, but they jumped the shark when they added items into the mix

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 16:44:13 No.38453314 Report

Quoted By: >>38454703

outdated mechanic added because of a technical limitation only kept around because it's TWADITION THEY CANT CHANGE IT like all the shitty outdated mechanics in the game still

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 16:45:10 No.38453318 Report

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it became redundant with the GTS

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 16:56:44 No.38453402 Report

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>>38453265
I hate it because I have no friends. The GTC in DPPt was great and I was excited when I first discovered it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 16:59:49 No.38453420 Report

Quoted By: >>38459875

>>38453301
Only Gen 7 doesn't have any.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 17:01:31 No.38453433 Report

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I think trade evolutions SUCK

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 17:05:04 No.38453453 Report

Quoted By: >>38453459

LITERALLY designed to force you to buy more shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 17:05:58 No.38453459 Report

Quoted By: >>38453499 >>38454653

>>38453453
i thought it was so kids would bug their friends into buying the games

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 17:06:51 No.38453465 Report

Quoted By: >>38453514

It's extremely outdated. At this point, trade evos should be reworked to evolve at a slightly higher level (Machoke to Machamp at 48, for example), and trade evos that require held items should be reworked to just be a level up while holding the required item. The only thing I can't figure out how it would work is Shelmet and Karrablast evolving, since they needed to be traded with each other to evolve.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 17:07:21 No.38453469 Report

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Retarded and only makes sense in-game. It's even more retarded in the Ashnime because a Pokémon only considers you its new owner after trading through a trading machine, like the one that Ash and Dawn used.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 17:12:37 No.38453499 Report

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>>38453459
You have to buy the fucking cable dude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 17:14:19 No.38453512 Report

Quoted By: >>38460628

>>38453282
>Needing to have a second device in order to evolve a Pokemon
Too far. Something like evolving gligar at night with a razor fang is appropriate since gliscor is fucking amazing. Better than that lando biTch

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 17:14:46 No.38453514 Report

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>>38453465
Just have Shelmet evolve when it levels up with a Karablast in the party and vice versa.
Mantyke already does a similar thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 17:23:43 No.38453576 Report

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>>38453265
It used to be even shittier before the wifi connectivity

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 18:02:35 No.38453818 Report

Quoted By: >>38454259 >>38454669 >>38455907 >>38458482

>>38453285
Because all of them are cross-gen evo (with exception of Huntail and Gorebyss) and wanted to give us a reason of why they weren't available on previous gens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 18:04:23 No.38453830 Report

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>>38453265
There should have been more of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 19:12:23 No.38454259 Report

Quoted By: >>38454721

>>38453818
Uh, Machamp? Golem? Alakazam? Trevenant? Gigalith? Everyone else?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 19:15:37 No.38454284 Report

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>>38453301

Gen 6 had it, and gen 5 introduced the worst version of it, needing 2 specific species to trade

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 19:26:28 No.38454375 Report

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>>38453265
There should be an NPC somewhere late-mid game who you can trade back and forth with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 20:04:13 No.38454653 Report

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>>38453459
It was clearly so kids would bug their parents into buying a second Gameboy and a copy of the other game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 20:06:32 No.38454669 Report

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>>38453818
Sneasel ALREADY fixed this problem by evolving into Weavile with while holding a Razor Claw into the night two gens apart
There's literally NO excuse besides the fact that Gamefreak wanted to bait people into buying the two versions at the same time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 20:11:14 No.38454703 Report

Quoted By: >>38455935

>>38453314
Or that they wanted to make money by getting you to buy both versions or have a friend?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 20:13:59 No.38454721 Report

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>>38454259
Dumbass?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 20:15:06 No.38454733 Report

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We don't like it because we have no friends

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 20:53:05 No.38455036 Report

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>>38453282
>hard
Oh yes I love the challenge of trading

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 22:42:19 No.38455907 Report

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>>38453818
>wanted to give us a reason of why they weren't available on previous gens
Honestly, drawing attention to the game mechanics like that makes things worse more often than better.
Like in Gen 2 when NPCs talked about how Steel-type was "recently discovered" as if a couple of weeks before the events of GSC everybody woke up one morning and Magnemite was suddenly weak to Fire-type attacks for some reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 22:45:06 No.38455935 Report

Quoted By: >>38455982

>>38454703

Version exclusives already exist. Getting rid of trade evolution would still mean needing both versions if you're a friendless loser.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 22:45:47 No.38455938 Report

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>evolve by trade
ok

>evolve by trade holding item
pointless bullshit and it should be level up while holding item instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 22:45:50 No.38455939 Report

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>>38453265
I hate how games just assume that I have friends.

>But the gts
But then it isn't MY pokemon, it's someone else's. Trade evos are garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 22:48:39 No.38455963 Report

Quoted By: >>38456046 >>38456231 >>38459967 >>38460076 >>38460553 >>38460652

I didn't expect this much resistance to trade evolutions. How difficult is it to organize a trade online? You're all literally already posting in a Pokémon community

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 22:51:26 No.38455982 Report

Quoted By: >>38457494

>>38455935
I don't get why GF still has multiple versions of the same game. It was literally designed as a cashgrab to get more money out of people who want the version exclusives. If I pay for a full game, I want the full game. At least RSE did something interesting with it, but still.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 22:59:18 No.38456046 Report

Quoted By: >>38456071

>>38455963
I don't trust you faggots and I wouldn't want to spend one second with any of you homos outside of an anonymous platform

fuck you

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 23:03:00 No.38456071 Report

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>>38456046

I didn't want your faggy Alakazam anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 23:25:09 No.38456231 Report

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>>38455963
Pretty difficult for my Ruby cartridge

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 23:28:27 No.38456252 Report

Quoted By: >>38457507

The whole concept of trading away the pokemon you want to evolve in order to evolve it is counter-intuitive, most people don't want a traded pokemon on their team while playing singleplayer, and it leads to the awkward situation of trading and then immediately trading back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 23:29:14 No.38456260 Report

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>>38453270
Exactly. They don't let me have my Scizor bro live in peace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2019 23:30:00 No.38456271 Report

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A pain when my friend doesn't have his 3ds

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 01:50:17 No.38457494 Report

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>>38455982
Because they want you to play with other people,nobody has ever expected you to buy both versions

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 01:51:45 No.38457507 Report

Quoted By: >>38459873

>>38456252
This is the real big problem, and really only Karrablast and Escavalier actually use the trading aspect to any effect. The others would work fine as a level or item evolution with nothing lost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 01:52:20 No.38457510 Report

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People say that trade evos are made so that you and a friend trade and get an evo, but... how many people actually do that? Even then, most of the time you're gonna wanna trade back because it's YOUR Pokemon and you most likely want its evolved form now...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 02:17:55 No.38457767 Report

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I think they should keep them but also add another method to evolve them if they don't have someone to trade with.

Reaper Cloth, Up-Grade, etc. are stupid and should be usable like a Fire Stone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 03:38:47 No.38458482 Report

Quoted By: >>38458573

>>38453818
Yes, because Gamefreak is so very worried about continuity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 03:42:03 No.38458513 Report

Quoted By:

>38454721
>le no argument
kill yourself faggot, not even worth a (you)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 03:49:09 No.38458573 Report

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>>38458482
They are, it is in fact a problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 06:05:28 No.38459515 Report

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What GF thinks:
>hey i'll trade my machoke for your haunter
>wow it evolved you can use that machamp and i'll use gengar

in practice:
>completely halt the game as machop evolves
>"hey stop whatever you're doing to turn on pokemon, i need to evolve this machoke"
>friend searches around for game and loads it
>spend more time doing the pokemon equivalent of passing a ball around
>move on because you're not going to trade off a pokemon you took the time to level

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 07:29:42 No.38459873 Report

Quoted By: >>38461368

>>38457507
>level up Kadabra with Metal Spoon
>level up Machoke with...
>level up Graveler with...
>level up A-Graveler with...
>level up Haunter with...
>level up Roggenrola with...
>level up Timburr with Concrete Pillars
>level up Phantump with...
>level up Pumpkaboo with...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 07:30:45 No.38459875 Report

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>>38453420
Alolan Golem

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 07:56:45 No.38459947 Report

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>>38453265
Shitty mechanic. Easily abused early on, screws over people wanting to do replays years after release, and often clutters bags with useless items.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 08:01:49 No.38459967 Report

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>>38455963
>I didn't expect this much resistance to trade evolutions.
Why? Are you new to this? Everybody hated trade evos even when we were kids with friends in the Gameboy days because it was still a hassle. There was never a circumstance where someone went, "Yes, I'd like for you to keep this pokemon I raised that just evolved by trade."

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 08:20:01 No.38460076 Report

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>>38455963
let me line out the minimum amount of effort i would have to go through in gen 6 or 7 to evolve something like a Swirlix right now

>have to catch swirlix (obvious)
>have to find the whipped dream because some fucking idiot decided to make a trade evo item for a brand new pokemon
>if i already used the one ingame, would have to Maison grind for one
>have to connect online
>have to pm one of my online friends to find their 3ds and waste time connecting online, interrupting anything they were already doing
>turns out they haven't played their 3ds in like a year so they cant connect online without updating the system
>after waiting even longer they finally get online
>trade the swirlix to them
>wait even longer than normal after a trade because it evolves and probably learns new moves
>if it learns new moves on evo i have to tell them what moves i do and dont want
>trade it back
>and finally now i can continue with the game

I understand they dont want everything to evolve through normal leveling up, but wasn't the Whipped Dream enough?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 10:32:45 No.38460514 Report

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>>38453265
hated it, even as a kid I had friends with a link cable. even then it was a bitch to arrange a trade.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 10:36:13 No.38460534 Report

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>>38453265
It’s cool in theory but in practice it sucks dick. Doubly so when it requires a hold item too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 10:38:09 No.38460544 Report

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I never owned a legit scizor. the one I got on the gts in gen 7 was so obviously injected

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 10:40:17 No.38460551 Report

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Trade evolution is the ultimate and final cuck.
Think about it logically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 10:40:45 No.38460553 Report

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>>38455963
>having social skills
eww lol what

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 10:40:49 No.38460555 Report

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>>38453265
It's shit. Just watch GameFreak be jew enough to introduce a bunch of new ones in Sword and Shield so people will need to pay for online to get them all. Or hack them in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 10:43:32 No.38460568 Report

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>>38453285
Well lore wise it can make sense since the energy used during trade may cause certain Pokemon with the potential to evolve to adapt to whatever is in it's environment.

Scyther probably has the capability of evolution but can't reach it naturally anymore thus is never seen, Scizor might not be the same evolution it could have had naturally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 11:01:59 No.38460628 Report

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>>38453512
It's about a concept you might probably never comperhend anon.
Having friends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 11:07:12 No.38460640 Report

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>>38453265
Awful, cancerous way to evolve that needs to be removed and replaced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 11:10:25 No.38460652 Report

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>>38455963
>How difficult is it to organize a trade online?

Quite difficult for my emerald playthrough retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 13:07:45 No.38461098 Report

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I just wonder if there’s two kidd out there who discovered a hold item trade evolution on accident.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 13:09:21 No.38461113 Report

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>>38453265
Cancer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 13:10:00 No.38461115 Report

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>>38453265
It’s based and every mon that evolve that way is based as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 13:36:29 No.38461260 Report

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>>38453265
Every pokemon should be evolvable by trading in addition to however they normally evolve.

Nuzlock Trainer Izan

Nuzlock Trainer Izan Fri 03 May 2019 13:41:14 No.38461284 Report

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>>38453265
Honestly i hope it's done away with i understand trading incentive but they can come up with better incentive then this. Plus most people just trade back and forth to evolve anyway it's not like they actually trade for haunter or the kadabra

Nuzlock Trainer Izan

Nuzlock Trainer Izan Fri 03 May 2019 13:52:45 No.38461368 Report

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>>38459873
>Machoke w champions belt or make him have to beat the elite 4 to evolve
>Gravler with a stone polish or a hard stone if you think they won't add items ever again
>A gravler hold lightning rod get hit for 1000 electric damage while holding.
> Haunter with a poke doll
> Roggenrola hard stone or rock gem
>Phantump feed energy root / hold energy root or make an item called mulch
>Pumpkaboo feed / hold honey or make an item called mulch
Pumpkaboo or Phantump could also hold/eat luminous moss.

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