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Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 01:38:54 No.38457374 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>38458937 >>38459753 >>38460673 >>38462290 >>38463239 >>38467008

>can't learn Drain punch
>can't learn aqua jet
>can't learn close combat
>honestly just a shit movepool overall
>terrible stats all around
>literally just a buffer Poliwhirl
>despite basically being a bigger Poliwhirl it still looks like garbage
>JUSTED by Politoed just a generation later

What was GF thinking?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 01:57:04 No.38457556 Report

Quoted By: >>38457751 >>38460639 >>38460704 >>38462107 >>38467008

Not even joking, everything about it screams GF gave up on it as a concept and Pokemon.
Going by the original design and the final result, the designer had an idea (tadpole -> frog king) but couldn't get the ball really rolling, and just gave up on it and made it a bigger, angrier Poliwhirl.
Politoed is simply a second try done right. Even its Pokedex entries reference it as a leader among Poliwags and Whirls while Wrath's entries say it just swims well.
I'd feel bad for anyone who actually likes Poliwrath, because it seems to me like GF straight up considers it a failure of a Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 01:59:02 No.38457580 Report

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would you look at that, a Pokemon that could actually use a Mega and is even fully-evolved to boot

Can we go back and revoke Rayquaza's mega pass

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 02:15:59 No.38457751 Report

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>>38457556
>Snorlax now with a Swirl Edition

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 02:39:38 No.38457936 Report

Quoted By: >>38462063

I fixed its design

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 02:58:07 No.38458137 Report

Quoted By: >>38462035 >>38462107 >>38462282 >>38462295

Poliwrath fans, I am training a Poliwrath in Crystal right now. This is its moveset:
Surf
Body Slam
Hypnosis
Belly Drum

I want to teach it Mind Reader and Dynamic Punch. Should I? Which moves should I replace?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 04:26:52 No.38458923 Report

Quoted By: >>38460797 >>38460801 >>38461943 >>38462063

How did I do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 04:29:10 No.38458937 Report

Quoted By: >>38460621

>>38457374
And let's not forget that Poliwrath just got Low Kick and Superpower in LGPE, meaning that for most of its existence it didn't even get THOSE moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 06:59:50 No.38459753 Report

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>>38457374
You would think that the final evolution of the first pokemon of the protagonist of the manga endorsed by the creator of Pokemon itself would get more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 10:59:39 No.38460621 Report

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>>38458937
Let's just hope it actually keeps them in the transition to Gen 8. I'm still worried on that front that moveset changes in Let's Go will be ignored.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 11:07:05 No.38460639 Report

Quoted By: >>38460681

>>38457556
Its decent in PoGo.
All it needs is subbmision buff

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 11:19:21 No.38460673 Report

Quoted By: >>38460706

>>38457374
This thing with maxed def/hp EVs and impish nature holding a sitrus berry in battle tree is probably the only counter to the truant durant/+6 cloyster cheese, so long as the sash broke when the entrainmened mon hit cloyster with a Z move

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 11:20:57 No.38460681 Report

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>>38460639
Gamefreak hasn't touched Submission with a ten-foot pole since Gen 1. Okay well they did touch it by slightly NERFING it with a reduction of PP in Gen 6.

Why they think the once most powerful widely distributed Fighting move in Gen 1 is only worthy of 80 attack and 80 accuracy with recoil damage is beyond me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 11:30:41 No.38460704 Report

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>>38457556
Probably right, especially considering how Politoed evolves using a King's Rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 11:31:52 No.38460706 Report

Quoted By: >>38460776

>>38460673
Explain the cheese

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 11:53:49 No.38460776 Report

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>>38460706
Use entrainment to make your opponent a true ant. Set up for free with protect on cloyster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 12:00:29 No.38460797 Report

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>>38458923
Seems nice. Good job

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 12:00:46 No.38460801 Report

Quoted By: >>38462842

>>38458923
I like everything except the eyes. Makes me wish they did polibro any justice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 14:01:28 No.38461424 Report

Quoted By: >>38462041

Most gen 1 mons have horrible movesets in general.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 15:15:29 No.38461802 Report

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This thread is rather poliamarous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 15:40:45 No.38461943 Report

Quoted By: >>38462842

>>38458923

Justified or Iron Fist instead of anger point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 15:52:16 No.38462035 Report

Quoted By: >>38463180

>>38458137
It’s not really worth it. I’d just run brick break or basedelse if you want a fighting move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 15:52:31 No.38462041 Report

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>>38461424
it's a 50/50, they either have laughable movepools are godly ones

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 15:55:42 No.38462063 Report

Quoted By: >>38462842

>>38457936
>>38458923
I don't really like how you guys like giving poliwrath a defined mouth. I find it charming and a defining trait that your brain thinks the swirl is the mouth at first. I like how it's not exactly clear if it even has a visible mouth

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 16:02:50 No.38462107 Report

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>>38458137

Storymode-wise I personally don't trust Hypnosis so if it were up to me I'd take out Belly Drum/Hypnosis. Otherwise it'd be Body Slam/Belly Drum. Unless you have another Water-type to offload Surf to, but then it'll have no Water STAB.

>>38457556
Even just on conceptual design I feel bad for it because it seems like there is always a Pokemon that does a fisticuffs concept better than it.

>Machamp as the ultima flex machine
>Hitmons/Sawk/Throh/Hariyama have their niche as martial artists (especially Hariyama and Throh which make the inclusion of Circle Throw on Poliwrath look like a weak attempt at judo)
>Conkeldurr as the tough weathered strongman
>etc etc

For almost as many generations have existed Poliwrath was just "Water-type but also your friendly neighbourhood tough guy". But then again here I am in Yellow training a Poliwrath anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 16:29:44 No.38462282 Report

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>>38458137
I fell in love with poliwrath after reading the Red Blue and Yellow pokemon adventures manga
I'm currently using one in fire red, he's pretty cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 16:30:35 No.38462290 Report

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>>38457374
Most Pokemon are just dex filler that is useless and forgotten.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 16:31:43 No.38462295 Report

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>>38458137
Teach it DynamicPunch. Use an X accuracy in battle, and it will hit 100% of the time. Strange Gen 2 quirk.
t. used it with my Ursaring

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 16:50:27 No.38462416 Report

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>What was GF thinking?
How they usually think, not at all
They should at least change/buff Poliwrath's stats and movepool in the next games (that goes with many other Pokemon as well, especially older ones from pre-powercreep generations)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 17:53:59 No.38462842 Report

Quoted By: >>38463130

>>38462063
I understand that, but in my mind Poliwhirl already has that goin' for it. When I drew it, I thought that it should at least develop SOMETHING that bridges the gap between tadpole and frog. Poliwhirl gains arms, but Poliwrath's changes are too minuscule. I wanted it to look closer to a frog (as is natural), but retain its state as a tadpole. A frog-like mouth was the best way of going about that.
.>>38461943
Anger Point was just a funny nod to Poliwrath literally just being an angry Poliwhirl, but I understand Iron Fist is more practical.
>>38460801
Sure, I'll put the eyes back. Is it just the shape or was it the extra detail in the iris that you didn't like? Both?

If you guys have any more suggestions, do tell. Fixing wonky or bland features on Pokemon is something I like to do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 18:37:51 No.38463130 Report

Quoted By: >>38463661

>>38462842
Looks great, otherwise just
>remove developed mouth

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 18:44:29 No.38463180 Report

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>>38462035
dumbass

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 18:51:15 No.38463239 Report

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>>38457374
It's like one of those "forgotten evolved gen 1" Pokémon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 19:47:20 No.38463661 Report

Quoted By: >>38465197

>>38463130
Sorry no can do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2019 23:19:01 No.38465197 Report

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>>38463661
It's the only really memorable and unique thing from the original design. There is almost always a slight furrow in it anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 03:51:42 No.38467008 Report

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>>38457374
>>38457556
>not appreciating Quappo

Into the oven you go.

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