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>Stealth rock is balanced they said

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 09:08:55 No.38468331 View View Reply Original Report

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Go to turn 21 for absolute shithousery

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 09:10:57 No.38468336 Report

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Congrats, you’re both autistic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 09:20:51 No.38468363 Report

Quoted By: >>38468383

>waaaah why did thing that damages me damage me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 09:25:22 No.38468383 Report

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>>38468363
Watch the replay then tell me it's balanced

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 09:27:49 No.38468391 Report

Quoted By: >>38468401 >>38469466

>>38468331
Anon, your pokemon were already dead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 09:28:19 No.38468394 Report

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>>38468383
>dude I'm going to substitute my pokemon low on health even though I know rocks are on the field lmao

stop blaming the game for you being bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 09:31:06 No.38468401 Report

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>>38468391
They'd still be alive if it weren't for stealth rock...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 10:35:21 No.38468597 Report

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>>38468331
>Necrozma down at one percent
>rocks up
>hurr better switch it out instead of actually attacking
You're a grade A retard and that's why you lost

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 10:50:16 No.38468637 Report

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>>38468331
Not gonna lie that was pretty amusing. Based opponent

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 11:01:37 No.38468686 Report

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>>38468331
Anon, have you ever heard of "sacking a mon?"
It usually means there is no use in switching a Pokemon out so you'd be best served by getting some damage off and dying so you can have a fresh switch-in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 11:05:11 No.38468699 Report

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OP has zero self awareness

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 11:11:22 No.38468723 Report

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>>38468331
youre just bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 11:12:18 No.38468727 Report

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>>38468723
My opponent was worse but he won because rocks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 11:39:26 No.38468826 Report

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>Hur I had 5 pokemon with 2% hp why did I lose

You are one gigantic retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 11:40:45 No.38468831 Report

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>>38468826
They would have lived and I would have won if it weren’t for rocks, idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 11:42:43 No.38468837 Report

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>>38468727
>switching out mons at red health when you know Stealth Rocks are in play
Adapt or don't advance, your opponent made questionable plays, but you definitely were worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 11:48:06 No.38468856 Report

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>>38468831
You would have won if you'd played better you retard. You know your low HP shitmon will take damage and die when it switches back in. Instead, you choose to let another Pokémon take damage just so this one can die a little later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 11:48:35 No.38468857 Report

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>>38468727
>I got completely smashed
>My opponent was worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 11:57:25 No.38468887 Report

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>>38468837
Not him but what did his opponent do wrong besides not stwching out his Umbreon during the 1st turn?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 12:03:04 No.38468917 Report

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>>38468331
>low hp pokémon
>switches
>"REEEEEEEEEEE STEALTH ROCKS UNBALANCED!!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 12:07:32 No.38468936 Report

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>>38468331
Then you're an idiot for not knowing how to prevent or remove hazards. You're just bad, accept it.

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Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 12:13:13 No.38468963 Report

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>>38468331
lol good replay you shouldnt have allowed your pokemone to get low enough for that to happen, stealth rock is fine.
what isn't fine is stacking it with toxic, spikes and sandstorm

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 12:16:09 No.38468972 Report

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Thanks OP, I really needed that laugh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 12:35:20 No.38469046 Report

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>>38468331
>high jump kicking twice on an umbreon who almost always carries protect in randoms, instead of power whipping the second time to catch a possible ghost or u-turning for momentum
>revealing a koko when you already know the opponent has a palossand which koko can't possibly kill from full so by going koko this early you're potentially giving palo a free turn
>having DW necro and going for heat wave instead of STAB moongeist beam as if they're gonna let you hit their cobalion for free, and switching out of a 80% palossand when moongeist would have killed it AND EVEN IF you were the min speed trick room DW necro set you were STILL faster than palo
>not sacking your DW necro do deal a large chunk on lurantis to revenge kill it after LO recoil, despite you KNEW you'd struggle with it
It wasn't rocks that made you lose. And you know it too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 13:02:58 No.38469175 Report

Quoted By: >>38469672

>>38468936
Stealth should be banned because bad players like you love to abuse it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 13:10:19 No.38469202 Report

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>>38468887
Switching out to Palossand when a Kyurem is out. Not the bigger blunder than OP's atrocious moves, but Palossand is a good for walling Tapu Koko and has a Normal/Fighting immunity. Cobalion was the better switch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 13:13:16 No.38469215 Report

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>>38468331
>literally a sub 1100 shitter
>Playing Rabdombats competitively
>Switches out Pokemon that are 9% hp while stealth rocks are up
>Sometimes doesn’t even attack, just switches around an incredibly slow Pokemon as it sets up

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 13:17:22 No.38469232 Report

Quoted By: >>38469417

>>38468331
Adama 87823863: Good job

harhote forfeited.

Adama 87823863 won the battle!
harhote left.
harhote's rating: 1102 1077
(-25 for losing)
Adama 87823863's rating: 1101 1126
(+25 for winning)

Why is it that literally every shitter hates Stealth Rocks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 13:48:13 No.38469348 Report

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Very informative thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 13:57:46 No.38469394 Report

Quoted By: >>38469404

>>38468331
>switching out ~9% mons while SR is up
>implying ranbats is competitive to start with
OP you're a moron.

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Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 13:58:26 No.38469401 Report

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>>38468331
Op is pic related
Also,
>a thread died for this failed abortion of a post
It was funny as fuck, though, I'll give you that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 13:58:58 No.38469404 Report

Quoted By: >>38469416 >>38469423

>>38469394
Random battles are more fair than any other meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 14:00:31 No.38469416 Report

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>>38469404
t. too dumb for team building

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 14:00:32 No.38469417 Report

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>>38469232
>good job

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 14:01:25 No.38469423 Report

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>>38469404
>Ranbats
Somebody post it. You all know the one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 14:05:55 No.38469442 Report

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>>38469423
no I don't?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 14:07:54 No.38469455 Report

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>Turns 1-5
>stay in while badly poisoned for 4 turns, then click Life Orb U-turn, putting you into SR range
>Turns 14-15
>stay in vs the Cobalion that can OHKO you with Close Combat, live because he fucked up and clicked Iron Head, then kill yourself by switching out instead of attacking again
>Turns 17-18
>switch into almost-lethal Knock Off, then kill yourself by switching out instead of just attacking even when you're almost certainly faster
>waste your Z-move in the process
>he even clicked Synthesis, meaning you would have gotten off at least 2 attacks if you had just stayed in
>Turn 19
>stay in and click Dazzling Gleam because what else are you going to do at this point

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 14:10:08 No.38469466 Report

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>>38468391
N-NANI?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 14:10:37 No.38469471 Report

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>>38469442
Perfectly healthy arcane canine

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 14:11:24 No.38469475 Report

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>>38468727
Not really, you fucked up many other times too:
turn 21, using Nasty plot against a +2 Luramantis with full healft, what did you expect?
turn 3, not switching to change your status badly poisoned in normal poison istead of using Synthesis.
turn 1, but maybe it's just me because Im used to the stall set of Umbreon, but I would never High jump kick an Umbreon risking to hit a protect.

Other than that is fine, you will need to learn to make your switches less obvious and read your opponent swithches.

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Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 14:13:38 No.38469485 Report

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>stealth rock is a punishment for switching
>switches anyway
>how could this happen to me???

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 14:16:42 No.38469501 Report

Quoted By: >>38469543

>>38469475
>not switching to change your status badly poisoned in normal poison istead of using Synthesis.
Switching doesn't turn bad poison into normal poison, hasn't worked that way since GSC. He still should have switched though, since switching resets the counter and you don't want to stay in for so long while badly poisoned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 14:24:45 No.38469543 Report

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>>38469501
>since switching resets the counter
I assumed that's what he meant, switching out before your third turn of bad poison so that it essentially behaves the same as if it were normal poison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 14:31:36 No.38469583 Report

Quoted By: >>38469993

>>38468331
>Filename
>Randbats
>Sub 1100s
>Waits until his Pokemon are under 12% and then switches
BASED retard anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 14:32:19 No.38469586 Report

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>>38468723
>>38468723
fuck off

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Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 14:34:38 No.38469593 Report

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>>38468331
>Switching out your mons at extremely low HP while hazards are up
Watching you get your shit wrecked at the end was funny though, I'll give you that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 14:39:00 No.38469618 Report

Quoted By: >>38469628

>>38469586
you're just bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 14:39:51 No.38469622 Report

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>>38469586
youre just bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 14:40:47 No.38469628 Report

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>>38469622
>>38469618
Spamming is against the rules

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 14:44:00 No.38469644 Report

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>>38469628
so is being bad at battles

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 14:47:17 No.38469665 Report

Quoted By: >>38469716

>>38469628
you're just bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 14:47:24 No.38469666 Report

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>1-11%health
>stealth rocks on your side
>switch out anyway
Yep, it’s retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 14:49:02 No.38469672 Report

Quoted By: >>38469709 >>38469716

>>38468331
>>38468727
>>38469175
>>38469586
>>38469628
you're just bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 14:52:50 No.38469685 Report

Quoted By: >>38469709 >>38469716

>>38469628
you're just bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 14:57:13 No.38469701 Report

Quoted By: >>38469709 >>38469716

>>38469628
youre just bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 14:59:55 No.38469709 Report

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>>38469672
>>38469685
>>38469701
STOP IT !!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 15:01:53 No.38469716 Report

Quoted By: >>38469876 >>38470045 >>38470528

>>38469672
>>38469685
>>38469701
>>38469665

>samefagging this hard

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Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 15:02:57 No.38469723 Report

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pssssh...nuthin personnel, kid...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 15:05:58 No.38469737 Report

Quoted By: >>38469763

>no one has realized that OP is Adama

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 15:06:25 No.38469741 Report

Quoted By: >>38469751 >>38469756 >>38470142 >>38470166 >>38470367

If I wanted to get into battling is there a good starting point? Or is it just a case of jumping in on and learning from your fuck ups?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 15:07:44 No.38469747 Report

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>>38468831
>would have won if it weren't for rocks
you mean you'd win if gamefreak removed a gameplay mechanic that can be utilised by both sides and easily removed?
yeah you're right, total bullshit to allow entry hazards

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 15:08:41 No.38469751 Report

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>>38469741
random battles are good because they force you to think about your options and demonstrate a wide variety of type/move/effect combinations. just dive in and experiment, and don't be a sensitive faggot like OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 15:09:55 No.38469756 Report

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>>38469741
Take a sample team and jump in on whatever meta you want to play.
Don't make your own team to start off with, that's a pretty big mistake most new players do. It's like trying to write a song without even knowing how to play an instrument, if you get what I mean.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 15:10:54 No.38469763 Report

Quoted By: >>38469871

>>38469737
they said they would've won if not for stealth rocks numerous times in thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 15:29:17 No.38469871 Report

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>>38469763
>they

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 15:30:19 No.38469876 Report

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>>38469716
you're just bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 15:56:47 No.38469993 Report

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>>38469583
>>38469583
>>38469583
>>38469583
The absolute state of shitter waifufags

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 16:06:36 No.38470045 Report

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>>38469716
you’re just bad bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 16:23:14 No.38470142 Report

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>>38469741
Play maingame, then do some battle frontier things and then random battle. Afterwards experimenting would be a good idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 16:28:10 No.38470166 Report

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>>38469741
just copy smogon approved sample teams and play ou. 90% of the playerbase consists of brazilian children so you won't get your ass kicked by experienced players.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 16:33:37 No.38470200 Report

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>switching out low hp, but faster pokemon when it's already at 2%
>not even trying to predict any switch ins
>using high jumpkick twice not expecting for opponent to have a trick up his sleeve
Based retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 16:52:26 No.38470304 Report

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>>38468727
Are you the Arcaninefag?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 16:58:11 No.38470347 Report

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>>38468331
this is why /vp/'s opinions on competitive don't matter LMAO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 17:01:02 No.38470367 Report

Quoted By: >>38470661 >>38473095

>>38469741
Start with OU since its the most populated and popular format.
go here: https://www.smogon.com/forums/forums/overused.387/ and read.
Then once you get an understanding of team comps, team cores, threats, play styles, and watching other players replays/battles, etc you can jump in a match. ELO starts at 1000 and most players at 1000 are retarded so you can easily learn from their mistakes and yours as well. 1500 ELO is when people start to use that brain in their heads. Once you get a good grasp of prediction and how people play, you can play other formats. Be wary that the more niche you go in formats, the better people will be at the starting ELO (1000).

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Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 17:01:48 No.38470374 Report

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>>38468331
I agree rocks are retarded, however
>setting your entire team up to die in a single turn
That takes some skill and a half.

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Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 17:08:42 No.38470427 Report

Quoted By: >>38470582 >>38470633 >>38470690 >>38471824 >>38473468

>>38469423
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/randombattle-247965078

Got you covered ;)

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Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 17:10:45 No.38470442 Report

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>>38469417
>good job

monowhite

monowhite Sat 04 May 2019 17:18:18 No.38470496 Report

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You're an idiot lmao.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 17:20:11 No.38470518 Report

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>>38468331
>person who shits on stealth rock is a retarded casual
every time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 17:21:29 No.38470528 Report

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>>38469716
you're just bad

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 17:28:51 No.38470582 Report

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>>38470427
That was an amusing turn of events-- holy shit that argument at the end

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 17:35:54 No.38470633 Report

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>>38470427
>getting this fucking anal blasted that his bug/fire dies to a rock move
Holy shit that wall of text on the final turn as well was something else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 17:38:23 No.38470661 Report

Quoted By: >>38473053

>>38470367
>1500 ELO is when people start to use that brain in their heads
>reach 1500 ELO for the first time
>lose ten matches in a row
>actually start crying

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 17:41:58 No.38470690 Report

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>>38470427
>I still see a perfectly healthy Arcanine on the field of play.
Gets me every time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 20:06:26 No.38471630 Report

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>>38468394
This, OP is literally the worst player I've ever witnessed. Proved that at the beginning by using HJK twice consecutively against a Pokemon that ALWAYS has Protect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 20:31:59 No.38471824 Report

Quoted By: >>38472031

>>38470427
Other guy shouldn't have sunk to his level. Should have just said something like
>Okay enjoy sub 1100
and left after time out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 20:50:40 No.38472031 Report

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>>38471824
If they hadn't kept going we wouldn't have had the 'perfectly healt arcanine' line. And suddenly seeing that wall of text appear when watching the replay adds to the comedic value.

But yes the actual conversation becomes bland and a bit cringe for all parts once the mitel guy joins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 21:59:17 No.38472598 Report

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>>38468331
I hate Stealth Rocks like everyone should but that's not a good example of it being unbalanced.
You were just playing like a retard by switching your pokemon like normal despite having nothing to get rid of the rocks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 22:03:49 No.38472640 Report

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>>38468331
>Using HJK twice on Umbreon instead of predicting an obvious switch
>Using toxic twice after a protect while the opponent still has a steel type
I don't know which one of you that was but good damn whoever that is sucks ass.

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Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 22:11:03 No.38472697 Report

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one of the best laughs I've had in a while OP, thanks

protip: when there's surreptitious geoliths on the field don't bother swapping out when your mon is low enough health to be knocked out by swapping back in.
it's like, how the move works and shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 22:52:30 No.38473053 Report

Quoted By: >>38473246 >>38473524

>>38470661
how long do those matches last if I may ask?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 22:56:42 No.38473095 Report

Quoted By: >>38473121

>>38470367
It's crazy how much faster you encounter good players on lower tiers, I'd argue NU 1300s is easily equal to OU 1500s

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 22:59:18 No.38473121 Report

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>>38473095
NU top 500 starts at 1490 and top 10 is 1600
OU top 500 starts at 1740 and top 10 is 2000.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 23:10:17 No.38473225 Report

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>>38468331
That was dirty. But you can't blame SR for that, you should've planned better than to have 4 mons with 10 HP each.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 23:12:56 No.38473246 Report

Quoted By: >>38473309

>>38473053
that's a very strange question because it depends on a bunch of stuff like what style of team you're using, what style of team the opponent is using, how even the matchup is, and how long they're taking to select their moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 23:18:56 No.38473309 Report

Quoted By: >>38473405

>>38473246
yeah it all matters except for the move selection delay because usually when they ask about time it's usually the number of turns

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 23:29:49 No.38473405 Report

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>>38473309
you're right but I hate playing against people that take way too long to click a move.
It can make a 25 turn match feel like a 50 turn match.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 23:38:28 No.38473468 Report

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>>38470427
Holy fuck what the fuck did I just read this is some top quality autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 23:45:35 No.38473503 Report

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Showdown has some mega retards, I remember getting back into competitive and below 1200 you go from normal retarded to they may not actually have eyes retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 23:49:54 No.38473524 Report

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>>38473053
More or less the same

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 23:52:47 No.38473542 Report

Quoted By: >>38473553 >>38473554 >>38473776

Stealth Rock should last 5 turns

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 23:54:41 No.38473553 Report

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>>38473542
t. stallfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 May 2019 23:55:39 No.38473554 Report

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>>38473542
nah

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Anonymous Sun 05 May 2019 00:28:45 No.38473776 Report

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>>38473542

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Anonymous Sun 05 May 2019 04:36:22 No.38475362 Report

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>>38468331
>1100s
BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA

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