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Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 08:10:39 No.38527460 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>38527468 >>38527480 >>38527501 >>38527528 >>38527722 >>38531452 >>38532522 >>38534391

Behold, the designated Pokémon for the biggest fucking faggots on planet earth

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 08:13:56 No.38527468 Report

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>>38527460
>t. Gengar or Wigglytuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 08:15:03 No.38527480 Report

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>>38527460
*block your path*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 08:19:20 No.38527501 Report

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>>38527460
Nothing but respect for MY fairy type president! Stay mad

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 08:26:15 No.38527528 Report

Quoted By: >>38527594

>>38527460
You got walled by one on Showdown, didn't you anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 08:50:51 No.38527594 Report

Quoted By: >>38527655 >>38527722 >>38527725 >>38527831 >>38527964 >>38533452 >>38533795 >>38534798

>>38527528
>have both of a fucking steelium doom desire jirachi and an alolan muk
>neither can do enough damage to it after only a single cosmic power boost
Yes, and I feel no shame because fuck that broken fat tranny piece of shit
Fairy type was a mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 09:18:52 No.38527655 Report

Quoted By: >>38527687 >>38527698

>>38527594
you were a mistake, if you can't get past a clefairy and come to VP to cry about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 09:33:04 No.38527687 Report

Quoted By: >>38527690 >>38527722

>>38527655
>hurr durr just bring a choice band/specs poison or fairy type every single fucking game so easy XD
Kill yourself my man

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 09:34:08 No.38527690 Report

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>>38527687
Poison or steel*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 09:36:03 No.38527698 Report

Quoted By: >>38527722

>>38527655
>"VP"
Newfag spotted
Also no, OP is spot on cosmic power clef is a cancer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 09:49:58 No.38527722 Report

Quoted By: >>38527732

>>38527460
>>38527594
>>38527687
>>38527698
Shit like this is allowed in OU
>Not Arena Trap
>Not Blaziken
>Sleep clause
>Anything that hurts Smogons precious stall gets banned into Ubers
Smogon needs to re-evaluate the tiers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 09:51:45 No.38527725 Report

Quoted By: >>38527736

>>38527594
And this is why you run choice band Rhyperior.

Fuck stall and fuck Clefable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 09:53:04 No.38527730 Report

Quoted By: >>38527734 >>38527736

just poison it lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 09:54:19 No.38527732 Report

Quoted By: >>38527745

>>38527722
I agree with everything except not wanting sleep clause.
Sleep is a broken status and should be limited. Gamefreak has even had their own sleep clause in some of their own formats and are retarded for removing it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 09:55:21 No.38527734 Report

Quoted By: >>38527746

>>38527730
>clefable
>giving a shit about status, no matter what ability it runs
This better be an ironic shitpost

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 09:55:51 No.38527736 Report

Quoted By: >>38527746 >>38533452

>>38527725
Calculations?
>>38527730
>Clefable used Aromatherapy
>Clefable used Softboiled

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 09:59:18 No.38527745 Report

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>>38527732
I’m still mad that Blaziken is still banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 09:59:42 No.38527746 Report

Quoted By: >>38527762 >>38527763 >>38527765 >>38527769 >>38527772

>>38527736
>>38527734
>Clefable used Aromatherapy
8 pp vs 16 pp
>Clefable used Softboiled
softboiled is a momentum sink and quickly gets made irrelevant by the rising poison damage anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 10:04:01 No.38527762 Report

Quoted By: >>38527765 >>38527801

>>38527746
Dumbass it has magic guard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 10:04:11 No.38527763 Report

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>>38527746
Clefable can still outstall Toxic poisoning and setup Calm Mind. Not to mention that it can switch out (assuming your opponent is down to one). You better have a strong special wall or physical attacker to fight back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 10:06:35 No.38527765 Report

Quoted By: >>38527801

>>38527746
Oh man better just let it set up for 8-10 fucking turns as I desperately try to poison it, I'm sure that will to well
Also >>38527762

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 10:07:29 No.38527769 Report

Quoted By: >>38527776 >>38527801

>>38527746
>rising poison damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 10:08:29 No.38527772 Report

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>>38527746
imagine using toxic on one clefable 8 (eight) times
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Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 10:08:54 No.38527773 Report

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>thread was dismissed on /v/
>shit here too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 10:10:04 No.38527776 Report

Quoted By: >>38527801

>>38527769
Actually hurts you in this case because it starts out miniscule and the clef can heal it off on the third turn before it takes any significant damage while continuing to boost/heal on the turns between
Boy, of all the arguments against this mon being retarded "poison it" might just be the worst one I've ever heard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 10:18:38 No.38527801 Report

Quoted By: >>38527810 >>38527820 >>38527845 >>38527915

>>38527762
then you bring it your setup sweeper. it can't have both.
besides, you know it's ability on switch in
>>38527765
>>38527776
>>38527769
>15/16 (1)
>11/16 (2)
>6/16 (3)
>7/16 (heal)
>heal until it dies
that's 3 turns, assuming leftovers and your attacks doing 3/16. what is a clef supposed to do in that time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 10:21:38 No.38527810 Report

Quoted By: >>38527816

>>38527801
>heal until it dies
That's fucking wrong though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 10:23:22 No.38527816 Report

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>>38527810
maybe it gets a fourth turn, but it does die at the end of that turn if it chooses to attack due to the poison damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 10:25:48 No.38527820 Report

Quoted By: >>38527826

>>38527801
>then you bring it your setup sweeper
>Clefable used Aromatherapy
>Clefable regained it’s health with Leftovers
>switches back to Toxic user
>Clefable used Calm Mind
>Clefable regained it’s health with Leftovers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 10:27:53 No.38527826 Report

Quoted By: >>38527849

>>38527820
holy shit you're retarded.
you know if it's toxic or unaware the second it switches in due to entry hazards.
if it's magic guard, you don't even bother to toxic it. you just instantly set up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 10:32:18 No.38527831 Report

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>>38527594
That set loses to Taunt. How do you lose to it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 10:38:16 No.38527845 Report

Quoted By: >>38527871

>>38527801
holy shit you retard
you are using damage for regular poison not toxic poison
NO ONE USES REGULAR POISON ITS OBJECTIVELY WORSE THAN TOXIC POISON
net toxic + lefties looks like
>Turn 1: 0 dmg
>Turn 2: 1/16
>Turn 3: 2/16

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 10:39:35 No.38527849 Report

Quoted By: >>38527871

>>38527826
>entry hazards
Entry hazards aren’t going to do shit regardless of what ability it has and Unaware ignores stat increases from the opponent.
You truly think “setting up” or poisoning is going to matter?
>Magic Guard
Doesn’t care about poison
Entry hazards are meaningless
Steel-Types hate Flamethrower
Moonblast
Leftovers
Only needs two Calm Mind boosts to seriously takedown your team
You’re fucked if you don’t have a physical sweeper who’s strong and fast enough to OHKO or bulky enough to take whatever Clefable throws.
>Unaware
My opponent is boosting its stats? Pffft. I can stall it.
Toxic, Flamethrower for pesky Steel types, and Moonblast for STAB.
Protect, Softboiled, Wish, etc.
Aromatherapy

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Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 10:43:40 No.38527855 Report

Quoted By: >>38527866 >>38532522

>it's another "/vp/ doesn't know shit about competitive Pokemon" episode

This sucks. Change the channel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 10:47:44 No.38527866 Report

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>>38527855
Nobody asked you to watch. gtfo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 10:50:45 No.38527871 Report

Quoted By: >>38527915

>>38527845
NIGGER GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND LEARN MATH
my calculations already used that formula, you forgot that toxic triggers after leftovers.
>>38527849
again, for the third time, hazards are there to determine the ability of clef. the damage isn't really relevant.
unaware gets destroyed by toxic (which wins the pp war), magic guard gets destroyed by any setup, toxapex or heatran. (plus a few stallbreakers)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 11:07:09 No.38527915 Report

Quoted By: >>38527950 >>38529198

>>38527871
>Fight stall with stall
>“Stallbreakers”
So now your previous solution “setup a sweeper” >>38527801 is invalid?
All that explanation just for you to fall and rely on more stall. “Stallbreakers” is another term for stall.
>wins the pp war
Are you forgetting that you need to keep in your Toxic user and hope it’s bulky enough to take on repeated Moonblasts? Clefable can setup and heal before Toxic does considerable damage. Heatran is the only viable counter at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 11:20:48 No.38527950 Report

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>>38527915
all three methods are valid.
>Clefable can setup and heal before Toxic does considerable damage. Heatran is the only viable counter at this point.
so it has only one attack? (aroma/cm/moonlight/moonblast)
just send any steel type in then

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 11:23:22 No.38527964 Report

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>>38527594
The only tranny here is you if you aren't man enough to beat a clefable faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 15:54:05 No.38529198 Report

Quoted By: >>38529566 >>38532352

>>38527915
>“Stallbreakers” is another term for stall
what

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 17:08:26 No.38529566 Report

Quoted By: >>38532352

>>38529198
Some retards (the average /vp/ poster) think anything straight up not attacking is stall. Are you using a bulky set up sweeper that relies on boosting both offense and defense and recovering? Stall. Are you using Taunt? Stall. Are you using 5 offensive mons and a wall just to do hazards control? Stall.

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Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 17:08:46 No.38529569 Report

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It's like the pokemon equivalent of kirby. Without a doubt my favorite mon in this series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 17:55:22 No.38529874 Report

Quoted By: >>38531430

I love clefable!

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Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 20:55:59 No.38531430 Report

Quoted By: >>38532445

>>38529874
Ah, you too are a man of culture I see.

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Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 20:59:31 No.38531452 Report

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>>38527460
Alright OP, now show us where on the doll this fairy touched you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 22:35:19 No.38532352 Report

Quoted By: >>38532418 >>38535601

>>38529198
>>38529566
It’s because half the time “Stallbreaker” is used to define a Stallbreaker, it’s literally another Stall mon.

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Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 22:42:29 No.38532418 Report

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>>38532352
what

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 22:45:42 No.38532445 Report

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>>38531430
sexually

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 22:53:08 No.38532522 Report

Quoted By: >>38533071

>>38527855
>gives zero suggestions, but acts like his IQ is 2000
>>38527460
Keep seething. Clef's been my favorite since my first game. Just use Zard X or Landorus

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 May 2019 23:43:36 No.38533071 Report

Quoted By: >>38534386

>>38532522
To be fair Landorus isn't always a super safe bet against Clefable, especially if it has cosmic power.

Of course, Clefable is already my favorite so that's just a plus in my book. Fuck them genies man. Except Thundurus, he's cool.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 00:32:03 No.38533452 Report

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>unironically whining about a meme set
>>38527594
>steelium doom desire jirachi
Any Jirachi with Iron Head beats this. Any Jirachi with Leftovers is unkillable for this set. Flash Cannon sets win eventually. Even your retarded set wins with Calm Mind, or at least becomes unkillable for Clefable while fishing for crits. Why bitch about Clefable when you're the one who decided to run a Steel-type without a reliable Steel STAB?
>>38527736
>Aromatherapy
So it doesn't even have Stored Power, it's just Moonblast / Cosmic Power / Softboiled / Aromatherapy with Unaware? Just Toxic it and/or switch back and forth with Steels until they give up, useless set.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 00:34:28 No.38533473 Report

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Clef is cute and OP is a butthurt baby back bitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 01:17:46 No.38533795 Report

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>>38527594
>doom fucking desire jirachi

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 02:31:01 No.38534386 Report

Quoted By: >>38534539

>>38533071
I mean just use any mon with high attack/special attack, but not a fighting type. Karana usually sends it packin5

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 02:31:34 No.38534391 Report

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>>38527460
But that's not Lugia

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 02:51:38 No.38534539 Report

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>>38534386
I've actually managed to net forfeits from people just by using Flamethrower on their Kartana as it switches in. It's pretty funny when it happens. But yeah, most steel types can handle it if it lacks Flamethrower, and even with Flamethrower Celesteela can typically run circles around it if it's got Heavy Slam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 03:27:45 No.38534798 Report

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>>38527594
umad?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 05:16:59 No.38535601 Report

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>>38532352
Stall is a team archetype. You can't have just one stall mon on your team, because that would mean you're not playing stall. At that point it's just a wall.

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