So many absolute morons in this thread, holy shit
Like some of you don't even follow simple logic
ORAS are improved versions of R/S, they aren't actually worse versions, despite how salty you are about them not including your precious battle frontier, they are still improved version of R/S this alone means you have to at minimum put them in the same tier as R/S, even if you think it's the slightest improvement
Then, some of you are putting XY in with Sun and Moon/USM
Really? Are you guys retarded?
Sun and Moon are far worse games. Atleast X and Y aren't stopping you nearly as often, they aren't actually visual novels or tour de kalos
I'm not saying they are good, but they are definitely better than SM/USM
