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Will they get Megas, Primals, or something else entirely?

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 15:59:36 No.38594456 View View Reply Original Report

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Also, Sinnoh remakes when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:03:23 No.38594484 Report

Quoted By: >>38594652

They should get new forms. ORAS already set the precedent. 'Ascended' Arceus should be the most broken thing in the game, btfo mega fug.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:05:13 No.38594501 Report

Quoted By: >>38594581

Giratina and Arceus should. The other two are so buttfuckingly ugly, they'll end up having even worse designs somehow so they probably shouldn't get them.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:06:47 No.38594516 Report

Quoted By: >>38594591 >>38594620 >>38594742 >>38594757 >>38595024 >>38595041

>>38594456
I'm hoping Arceus gets a massive buff a-la Groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza.
Something like, Arceus absorbs all the plates and makes every Judgement super effective against every type while making itself resist every attacks. It IS the God of Pokemon, after all.

Dialga, Palkia and Giratina are fine where they are. The ones who control Time, Space and Antimatter should be left alone in my opinion, BUT it would be interesting if we can see them when they were born (then again, HGSS Arceus event made primal reversion for the Creation Trio impossible).

Lastly, I do NOT want to see Sinnoh remakes. ORAS should be the last remake ever. DPPt mons can still be transferred all the way up to gen VII.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:08:21 No.38594530 Report

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How bout the lake trio gets new power that allow them to combine into one powerful being, they're also arceus's creations yet rarely get talk about

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:13:38 No.38594559 Report

Quoted By: >>38594598

>>38594456
Arceus 1000, and maybe a dark type regigias, keeping the weak to fighting theme but adding a new counterpart that's evil or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:14:14 No.38594564 Report

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Primals are Megas with another name.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:16:19 No.38594581 Report

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>>38594501
Primal reversion improved and stylized Groudon and Kyogre

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:17:22 No.38594591 Report

Quoted By: >>38594671 >>38594885

>>38594516
>Lastly, I do NOT want to see Sinnoh remakes. ORAS should be the last remake ever. DPPt mons can still be transferred all the way up to gen VII.
Yeah, you need
>DS
>1 Gen IV game
>1 Gen V game
>3DS
>1 eShop app
>1 Gen IV game
>Switch
>1 Gen VIII game
WOW I LOVE IT THANKS

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:17:43 No.38594598 Report

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>>38594559
Regicide

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:18:44 No.38594608 Report

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>>38594456
Arceus should get a Ultra-Burst like form that it can change to during battle if it knows Judgement. 140/140/140/140/140/140 stat spread should make it toppest of top tiers again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:20:08 No.38594620 Report

Quoted By: >>38594653 >>38594671 >>38595167

>>38594516
I wasn't aware that Giratina had power over antimatter, for me he was a god of death (or destruction, kinda opposite on how Arceus is the creator)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:20:28 No.38594622 Report

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>>38594598
The a on regigigas is kinda stretching it tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:20:42 No.38594625 Report

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>>38594456
>Will they get Megas, Primals, or something else entirely?
We can only hope not. I'm just praying that GF realise how dumb that whole mechanic was and retcon it in future instalments.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:22:52 No.38594637 Report

Quoted By: >>38594671

>>38594456
Primal Dialga already exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:23:51 No.38594645 Report

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>>38594456
They all get origin formes like giratina
Make their orbs function as mega stones

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:24:33 No.38594652 Report

Quoted By: >>38594671

>>38594484
Primal Arceus (Or as you said Ascended Arceus)
>Is all types
>Maxed out in all stats
>Has Unown arms around it
>Can only be obtained by 100%ing the game(Catching every pokemon, battling every trainer, finishing the battle facility on the highest difficulty, and then he sees you as "worthy" or whatever and you suddenly feel the azure flute unexplainable appeared in your bag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:24:41 No.38594653 Report

Quoted By: >>38594671 >>38595130

>>38594620
>god of destruction
>not yveltal
Dude

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:26:26 No.38594671 Report

Quoted By: >>38594701 >>38594743 >>38594752

>>38594620
Time and Space make up the matter plane we are living now. Matter must be balanced with Antimatter, which is Giratina's domain.
We could argue that since Giratina rules all of Antimatter, it should make it stronger than Dialga and Palkia, but they have the same BST, which is mildly infuriating.
>>38594591
Do you not collect all when you play throughout the year? I'm sorry if you're poor, I don't mean to demean you.
Anyway, it's pointless to remake the same game AGAIN. Let DPPt be a timeless classic.
>>38594637
Only in the US version that Dialga is called Primal.
>>38594652
I can get behind this.
>>38594653
Yveltal wasn't a thing when Giratina was known.

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Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:27:46 No.38594682 Report

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>>38594456
Mega Arceus
+20 to all stats
Ability: Protean

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:29:51 No.38594701 Report

Quoted By: >>38594717

>>38594671
>yveltal wasnt around the time giratina was introduce
Yeah i know, just jokin abit, but seriously my boy giratina should have done so much more, he could have delet the whole fucking planet if he wanted to, yet all he does is open some portal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:34:07 No.38594717 Report

Quoted By: >>38594738

>>38594701
>he could have delet the whole fucking planet if he wanted to, yet all he does is open some portal
I KNOW, RIGHT???
Cyrus is fucking insane, he should have created some kind of mind control thing to agitate Giratina and make it go berserk inside the Distortion World, which in turn would create an imbalance in the matter realm and threatened reality, then it would force the protag and Cynthia to look for Dialga and Palkia to call out Arceus and make things right. That would be epic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:34:18 No.38594720 Report

Quoted By: >>38594803

>>38594456
If they ever get any just expect them to centralize the meta and/or go to anything goes. We all know GF would just break them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:37:11 No.38594738 Report

Quoted By: >>38594803

>>38594717
After this vid, i just realize how insane the power creep of legendary pokemon have became, because the things that control the law of the universe is weaker than most of the things on the planet

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:37:27 No.38594742 Report

Quoted By: >>38594803

>>38594516
>DPPt mons can still be transferred all the way up to gen VII.

So can RSE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:37:29 No.38594743 Report

Quoted By: >>38594768 >>38594771 >>38594803

>>38594671
Do pokemon even have a canon for their pantheon? Seems like every time they create a new game they're like "hey, the other gods are not a thing in this region, new legendaries created the world"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:39:05 No.38594752 Report

Quoted By: >>38594803

>>38594671
Why should that make Giratina stronger than Dialga or Palkia? It makes sense for them to all be equal strength.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:39:41 No.38594757 Report

Quoted By: >>38594803

>>38594516
>DPPt mons can still be transferred all the way up to gen VII.
But RSE mons can too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:41:01 No.38594768 Report

Quoted By: >>38594803

>>38594743
Nah, but they do acknowledge arceus is the god of pokemon so that a start

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:41:11 No.38594771 Report

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>>38594743
The new legendaries usually only apply to their respective regions. Really only Gen 3, 4, and 6 had legendaries that apply to the entire planet or universe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:42:04 No.38594779 Report

Quoted By: >>38594803

>>38594456
They have to get some sort of Mega equivalent or they would look lackluster compared the Hoenn Legends, Zygarde, and Ultra Necrozma. I'm pretty sure Gamefreak will give them a boosted form, but it'll have to do with Gen 8's new battle mechanic (like how Ultra Burst is basically a Mega with a Z-Move).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:45:32 No.38594803 Report

Quoted By: >>38594849 >>38595051

>>38594742
>>38594757
Yes, that's why ORAS was a mistake, yet they did it anyway.
I expected Emerald-tier story, HGSS-tier content, but what I got was RS-tier content with XY slapped as the main engine.
>>38594738
>>38594743
They fucked up after DPPt by creating Arceus, and pretended it never existed when they create the Tao Trio.
>>38594752
Dialga control Time alone
Palkia control space alone
Giratina have to balance both in Distortion world, which, in hindsight, probably not a good thing since time and space are all fucked up in there.
>>38594768
^
>>38594779
see
>>38594720

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:52:02 No.38594849 Report

Quoted By: >>38594903

>>38594803
The inevitable DP remakes will have to tell the entire history of the Pokemon Universe. From beginning to present. Also, Arceus should be a part of the main storyline and not be cucked out of the game like GF did in DPPt. If they go the route of sequels instead of remakes, then that is what should happen. Neo Team Galactic summons Dialga and Palkia again, but are ready for Giratina and stop it too. It is up to Arceus itself to fight the Creation Trio and stop Team Galactic from destroying the universe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:57:16 No.38594885 Report

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>>38594591
>He doesn't have all of that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 16:59:04 No.38594903 Report

Quoted By: >>38594932

>>38594849
Honestly, I don't want Gen IV remakes for two reasons:
1. Remakes remade the initial games instead of the third version.
2. I was disappointed by ORAS (FUCK YOU OHMORI)
HGSS was an anomaly, as it brings in the storyline from Crystal, but ORAS completely ignores Emerald.
IF Gen IV got a remake, I am 90% sure we will get DP storyline instead of Platinum.
I agree with everything you said, but I have no hope for GF to do it.
>It is up to Arceus itself to fight the Creation Trio and stop Team Galactic from destroying the universe.
Yeah, see, this is fucking incredible, but it's unlikely to happen.

It's gonna be,
Cyrus - GRR, I'M EVIL, I'M GOING TO USE DIALGA/PALKIA
OH NO YOU BEAT ME
BETTER TURN MY WAYS AND START ANEW
HERE'S A MASTERBALL
Fuck...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:03:20 No.38594932 Report

Quoted By: >>38594946

>>38594903
I see them going the Platinum route, honestly. The Distortion World was an iconic part of Platinum and something GF would be retarded to leave out. And considering Platinum is the true canonical version of Gen 4 then it makes sense to go that route. The only problem I see is that they will release two games when they really only need to release one.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:05:09 No.38594946 Report

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>>38594932
>The only problem I see is that they will release two games when they really only need to release one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:05:24 No.38594947 Report

Quoted By: >>38594954

>>38594456
The Arceus in the current games is the Avatar of the true creator and gets 180 in every stat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:06:24 No.38594954 Report

Quoted By: >>38594988

>>38594947
>Arceus faster, stronger, more durable than any other pokemon
YES

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:06:59 No.38594956 Report

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>>38594456
Hopefully never. This retarded power level jump form thing is dumb as shit and I’m sick of remakes. Give me a sequel or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:13:19 No.38594988 Report

Quoted By: >>38595017 >>38595026 >>38595042

>>38594954
>Gamefreak introduces Limitless Mewtwo form with 106/180/170/255/180/229 stats and Psychic/Steel/Dragon/Fairy typing
>Ability "Infinity" makes Psychic attacks double in power

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:16:39 No.38595017 Report

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>>38594988
I know you're being baity,
but I like it
lel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:18:39 No.38595024 Report

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>>38594516
But money, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:18:53 No.38595026 Report

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>>38594988
yikes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:19:01 No.38595029 Report

Quoted By: >>38595040

I don't want Gen 4 remakes. nu-GameFreak would ruin them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:20:29 No.38595040 Report

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>>38595029
I'm afraid they would go with a 1-1 tile based region for a Sinnoh remake instead of making it match Sword/Shield.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:20:31 No.38595041 Report

Quoted By: >>38595059 >>38595084 >>38595349

>>38594516
Arceus should be left completely alone. Dialga and Palkia need buffs more than Giratina and Arceus. Especially fucking Arceus, wanting buffs for him is literally being a power level obsessed child.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:20:36 No.38595042 Report

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>>38594988
>+6 252+ SpA Choice Specs Infinity Limitless Mewtwo Psychic vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Chansey: 381-448 (54.1 - 63.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:21:15 No.38595051 Report

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>>38594803
>They fucked up after DPPt by creating Arceus, and pretended it never existed when they create the Tao Trio.
There is a direct reference to Giratina, also I don't see how the Trio Tao affects Arceus or the CT in any way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:21:44 No.38595059 Report

Quoted By: >>38595106

>>38595041
Why shouldn’t the literal God of all Pokemon have at least the highest BST?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:24:19 No.38595084 Report

Quoted By: >>38595106

>>38595041
>wanting buffs for him is literally being a power level obsessed child.
How come the God of all Pokemon shouldn't have the highest BST / strongest ability?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:27:46 No.38595106 Report

Quoted By: >>38595124 >>38595353

>>38595059
>>38595084
Both because it doesn’t need them and because Arceus isn’t an abrahamic god. I also don’t want more power creep to shit up Ubers. The primals are already stupid enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:28:01 No.38595108 Report

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>>38594456
Mega/Primal/Whatever arcues is going to be the most busted shit
>Treates as all types
>All stats are now 180
>Already has god tier movepool
>Will most likely have a new move like a physical judgement to stop special walls

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:29:42 No.38595121 Report

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>>38594456
give Arceus a fairy move

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:30:04 No.38595124 Report

Quoted By: >>38595151

>>38595106
Those type of power creep will most likely get ban and move to AG tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:31:01 No.38595130 Report

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>>38594653
Yveltal is necessary destruction as to retain the balance between life and death (similar to a God of Destruction from DBS). Giratina was a chaotic being and it's destruction disrupted the balance between life and death, which is the reason why Arceus banished it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:33:00 No.38595151 Report

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>>38595124
Or - god fucking forbid - we get a situation that lets Mega Fug come back down. On second thought, if we must get a alternate form of Arceus, I hope it's also broken while not competing with Mega Fug so both of them get their asses stuck in AG.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:34:57 No.38595167 Report

Quoted By: >>38595211 >>38595372

>>38594620
Giratina doesn't actually have power over antimatter. Gamefreak is retarded though and gave it that title because it sounded cool. Honestly, it should've had power of gravity.
>gravity distorts time and space
>gravity causes its forms to shift
>distortion world has unusual gravity

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:38:40 No.38595211 Report

Quoted By: >>38595249

>>38595167
>listening to cuckstin
Tell me anon, how tf does gravity completely destroy matter

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:38:53 No.38595212 Report

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Whatever they make, it’ll be shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:39:46 No.38595220 Report

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>>38594598
Woulbe be neat not gonna lie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:42:22 No.38595249 Report

Quoted By: >>38595304

>>38595211
>listening to cuckstin
Who? If this is some random poketuber then I'm not going to know. I don't watch that shit.
>how tf does gravity completely destroy matter
I mean, singularities effectively destroy matter. In any case, Giratina doesn't have that power. The Distortion World doesnt annhilate matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:48:13 No.38595304 Report

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>>38595249
Cuckstin made the same theory about gravity and giratina a while back, so his fan kinda run rampage. So sorry if i mistake you for them.
Also maybe it's both who tf know at this point, giratina have been stuff into the closet for god fucking how long and yet gamefreak still very indecisive about his power, always call him the god of antimatter, yet his entire ability revolves around gravity manipulation, guess all we can do is wait for the DP remake to confirm this shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:53:41 No.38595349 Report

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>>38595041
I don’t want anything more than maybe a form that gives him an ability that lets Judgement (Or maybe a new signature move) be super effective on all opponents regardless of the plate that it’s holding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:54:11 No.38595353 Report

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>>38595106
It's literally the avatar of a cosmic abstraction of which all things, humans and pokémon are a part.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 17:56:11 No.38595372 Report

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>>38595167
I think that the connection between antimatter and Giratina is like the connection between Dialga/Palkia and matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 May 2019 18:06:05 No.38595465 Report

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>>38594456
The Trio fuse but Palkia turns into a pair of earrings and Dialga turns into a necklace and Giratina Wears them and now has a Burial kimono.

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