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Anonymous Mon 20 May 2019 19:12:36 No.38614972 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>38614987 >>38615006 >>38615036 >>38615081 >>38616265 >>38617046 >>38620826 >>38622574 >>38622624 >>38622747

How strong would the original dragon be, both in-game and lore wise?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 May 2019 19:14:49 No.38614987 Report

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>>38614972
Not as strong as some of the other legends. The ones that reshape planet’s surface would be stronger but in-game wise it might be really good. Maybe. If they ever gave Kyurem a fucking movepool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 May 2019 19:16:39 No.38615006 Report

Quoted By: >>38615036 >>38620766 >>38621163

>>38614972
125/170/100/170/100/95 (760)
Dragon/Normal

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 May 2019 19:17:36 No.38615012 Report

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About as strong as Ultra Necrozma, maybe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 May 2019 19:20:50 No.38615036 Report

Quoted By: >>38616119 >>38620766 >>38621163

>>38614972
Pure Dragon with >>38615006 stats
an ability thats mold breaker + bonus damage on fire and electric attacks

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 May 2019 19:27:05 No.38615081 Report

Quoted By: >>38617054

>>38614972
Dragon/Dragon

Double the STAB, double the weaknesses

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 May 2019 21:32:39 No.38616119 Report

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>>38615036 is obvious, but has too many effects. What about abilities like:
>Everything on the field becomes mono-Dragon type
>Use the higher of Atk/SpAtk and Def/SpDef
>Increase the power of non-Dragon moves by 50%
>When it would be struck by a super-effective move, it heals 1/4 its total HP instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 May 2019 21:50:01 No.38616265 Report

Quoted By: >>38616961 >>38621163

>>38614972
I'd argue that being able to manipulate both truth and people's ideals would at the very least give it some reality-warping powers. Lorewise I'd put it on par with the creation trio.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 May 2019 23:07:59 No.38616961 Report

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>>38616265
No one manipulates those, they just represent them, and was never really seen outside of games

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 May 2019 23:16:18 No.38617046 Report

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>>38614972
That design is cool desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 May 2019 23:17:27 No.38617054 Report

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>>38615081
Would be dope

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 May 2019 03:15:01 No.38619139 Report

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just buff Kyurem

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 May 2019 06:51:13 No.38620766 Report

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>>38615006
>>38615036
I like it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 May 2019 06:53:29 No.38620780 Report

Quoted By: >>38620817 >>38620841

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 May 2019 06:58:38 No.38620817 Report

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>>38620780
>steel
What? Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 May 2019 07:00:08 No.38620826 Report

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>>38614972
I like to think that the original dragon is actually part of the creation trio and that it was the "giant" arceus defeat with all its plate.
Think about it: eache member of the creation represent a state of the matter but one is missing (Maybe it have something with the name team "Plasma")
So I guess it could possibly be very strong maybe stronger than the sinnoh's legend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 May 2019 07:02:03 No.38620841 Report

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>>38620780
>Random Steel typing
>Draws too much from Zekrom and hardly anything from Reshiram

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 May 2019 08:00:49 No.38621163 Report

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>>38615036
>Pure Dragon with >>38615006 stats
>an ability thats mold breaker + bonus damage on fire and electric attacks
This.
This shit right here.
I dunno if full Stab on Fire+Electric is overkill, or if a more reasonable 1.3x would be better, but either way, this shit.
Tell me it gets a move that is both Fire and Electric. I know that move would probably be shit, I just need it to exist.

>>38616265
It would be inferior to the Lake Trio. Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf have greater power over people's minds than the Original Dragon would. In another sense, Truth is a part of Uxie+a twinge of Mesprit, Ideals is a part of Azelf+a twinge of Mesprit.
Uxie fucking off completely shuts down Truth, Azelf fucking off completely shuts down ideals, and Mesprit fucking off kind of kneecaps both, even if it doesn't quite have the final word with either of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 May 2019 13:05:45 No.38622527 Report

Quoted By: >>38622664

Since reshiram represent truth and enforce it, while zekrom do the same with with ideal, and kyurem is the empty husk that you can mold into truth or idea as you please, maybe the origin dragon have the ability to enforce which ever ideology their user chooses
Stat while, since kyurem to kyurem-b or kyurem-w
Go from 660 to 700, the og dragon's stat could be 740
And its typing could be pure dragon since resh and zek's fire and lightning is said to have the ability to scorch the earth while kyurem's ice reach absolute zero, they should cancel each other out, or maybe dragon/water cause melting ice

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 May 2019 13:17:10 No.38622574 Report

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>>38614972
Original dragon should be at most as strong as weather trio but not a reality warper
It could scorch the planet with fire and electricity but can't really create anything so it's pure destructive power which is impressive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 May 2019 13:34:13 No.38622624 Report

Quoted By: >>38622664

>>38614972
Reminder they have never created original dragon even for splitting designs for tao duo and kyurem.
Whenntgey will make gen5 remake they will design it and it will look like shit just like necrozma forms

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 May 2019 13:44:10 No.38622664 Report

Quoted By: >>38622684 >>38622690 >>38622756

>>38622527
kyurem is only ice because it's lost the heat from reshi and zekrom and is literally an empty husk. the original form should have their heat powers

>>38622624
ultra necrozma looks good tho
kys genwun

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 May 2019 13:51:06 No.38622684 Report

Quoted By: >>38622716

>>38622664
So what typing should it have? Pure dragon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 May 2019 13:52:28 No.38622690 Report

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>>38622664
>Use dragonhead as torso
>no tail piece in sight

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 May 2019 13:58:17 No.38622716 Report

Quoted By: >>38622738

>>38622684
IMO, pure Dragon with an ability to give it Electric and Fire type traits, or Dragon/Psychic, because I see Psychic as the highest form of energy manipulation, and Fire+ Electricity seems like some crazy shit on par with plasma.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 May 2019 14:07:08 No.38622738 Report

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>>38622716
>dragon/psychic
Necrozma already have that tho, so how about dragon/steel, since metal is good at conducting heat and electricity

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 May 2019 14:09:05 No.38622747 Report

Quoted By: >>38622761

>>38614972
as retarded as it is it'll probably have a lower bst than the weather trio because gamefreak has some weird bias for them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 May 2019 14:11:02 No.38622756 Report

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>>38622664
>ultra necrozma looks good

AHAHAHAHAHAHA no

Its literally a toddlers rendition of galaxy eyes photon dragon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 May 2019 14:11:39 No.38622761 Report

Quoted By: >>38622981

>>38622747
>titans who created the earth
Vs
>ideology dragon
No shit anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 May 2019 14:53:38 No.38622981 Report

Quoted By: >>38623042

>>38622761
>lorefagging
Why doesn't Arceus have 9999999999 BST?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 May 2019 15:01:49 No.38623042 Report

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>>38622981
Give it 3 years faggot

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