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Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:25:07 No.38635077 View View Reply Original Report

>forced to catch a water shitmon to use surf and waste a party slot
>every single fucking gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:26:27 No.38635090 Report

Quoted By: >>38635123

>>38635077
Have you tried catching a good water type? Surf is still really good.
Also have you tried using Pokerides?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:26:57 No.38635096 Report

Quoted By: >>38635886

>>38635077
>>every single fucking gen
Not gen 7

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:26:58 No.38635097 Report

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>>38635077
a-anon..?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:27:14 No.38635100 Report

Quoted By: >>38635109

gens 5+ block your path

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:27:24 No.38635101 Report

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>>38635077
>Every single gen
>Pokeride in gen 7

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:27:36 No.38635103 Report

Quoted By: >>38635572 >>38636770

>want to use a cool Water mon like Kingler or Poliwrath
>It's physical so I can't stick Surf on it and call it a day
>Need another water shitmon

Why the FUCK are HMs not just something inherent to my Pokemon? If I have a water mon in my party I should be able to Surf with the required badge.
Why do I need a magic CD and a badge to teach my fish Pokemon to swim? Or my bird to fly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:27:59 No.38635104 Report

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>>38635077
based SuMo and Ultra SuMo killed the HM menace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:28:20 No.38635109 Report

Quoted By: >>38635121

>>38635100
BW2 disagrees.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:29:40 No.38635121 Report

Quoted By: >>38638619 >>38641616

>>38635109
Wrong, you need it to reach seaside cave. Maybe in victory road too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:29:58 No.38635123 Report

Quoted By: >>38636756

>>38635090
I've committed to countless playthroughs of pokemon games and I always catch a good water type, some of my favorite types are water, my favorite starters are Piplup and Totodile.

but the ONE playthrough of BW2 where I don't want to train a water type, I already have five mons I really like (none can learn surf) and an HM slave that can't learn surf, now I need to catch panpour or some bullshit and waste a slot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:30:35 No.38635126 Report

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>>38635077
Yes anon HMs are shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:31:30 No.38635133 Report

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>>38635077
NOT IN SUN AND MOON BABY!!!!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:31:47 No.38635136 Report

Quoted By: >>38635288

I totally understand the whole "ability and/or item-based overworld progression" thing. Loads of games do that. But the issue with HMs is that you can't get rid of them without the Move Deleter, and that really stinks. Do they not trust the player or something??? Yeah I could get myself softlocked, but that's how I learn shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:32:08 No.38635139 Report

Quoted By: >>38635159 >>38635173

>not puting Surf for coverage
Surf, Fly and Waterfall are good, ingame, moves.

The shit is Cut or Brick Break.

Fuck this bait thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:34:18 No.38635159 Report

Quoted By: >>38635196

>>38635139
>Brick Break.
>Shit
Are you okay anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:35:02 No.38635173 Report

Quoted By: >>38635299 >>38635339 >>38635576

>>38635139
yes anon but what if I do not want to train a water or flying type pokemon. I am sick of allotting a position in my party for a flyer/surfer for the past 18 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:36:31 No.38635196 Report

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>>38635159
He is confusing Brick Break and Rock Smash

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:37:09 No.38635207 Report

Quoted By: >>38635213

>Only Water types can learn Surf

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:37:48 No.38635213 Report

Quoted By: >>38635576

>>38635207
>oh yeah lemme just train my Aron to level 42 before the sixth gym

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:38:39 No.38635220 Report

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>>38635077
>not catching Rhyhorn

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:42:36 No.38635253 Report

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any water pokemon should be able to ferry you across the water if they're large enough. but keep HMs like surf for mons that are other types. have it add variety so if you want to surf on a snorlax or a lotad they need to be trained to. just my two cents you kissless virgin

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:44:21 No.38635269 Report

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>>38635077
This is why Gen 5 and Gen 7 are the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:47:30 No.38635288 Report

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>>38635136
HMs were always re-usable, so softlocking isn't an issue. Just arbitrary restriction

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:48:46 No.38635299 Report

Quoted By: >>38635307

>>38635173
>he thinks only water tipes can learn surf
>dont know about Rhyhorn coverage or a shitton of others that surf
Also in ANY game you are forced to fly. Total "skip-able" move.

Actualy looks like you never played any Pokémon game at all. Did you at least earned a badge in a game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:49:17 No.38635304 Report

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>2019
>Game Freak is still forcing me to use Pokemon to progress and traverse the region

baka

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:50:15 No.38635307 Report

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>>38635299
who are you quoting?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:50:17 No.38635308 Report

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hai

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:53:03 No.38635334 Report

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>>38635077
>wojak posting
Off to reddit with you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:53:31 No.38635339 Report

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>>38635173
bro literally just swap them out at the PC what are you doing bro?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 21:00:08 No.38635397 Report

Quoted By: >>38635413

>>38635077
>exploud
>"water type"

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 21:02:00 No.38635413 Report

Quoted By: >>38635432 >>38638874

>>38635397
>he didn't give his whismur an everstone

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 21:03:34 No.38635423 Report

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>>38635077
I can accept getting a decent water type for my team.
but not a fan of waterfall and Dive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 21:04:21 No.38635432 Report

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>>38635413
I want to motorboat zinnia

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 21:18:03 No.38635535 Report

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not in LGPE :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 21:23:28 No.38635572 Report

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>>38635103
It'd make more sense if the trainer was instead taught how to ride on a pokemon safely, or gained enough respect from them via badges, in order to use their abilities in the overworld safely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 21:23:42 No.38635576 Report

Quoted By: >>38635625

>>38635173
>"Ur dur if I do not want to train a water pkm dur"
Nidoqueen, Nidoking, Licktung, Rhydon, Kangaskhan, Tauros, Snorlax, Dratine-line, Mew, Sentret, Sneasel, Miltank, Tyranitar....
This in Kanto/Johto. There still more 6 regions/generations to post but i don't care this much.

>"I am sick of having a flyer pkm"
You don't have to. You are not forced in any gen.

Like i said, its like you never played pokemon before. Probably just an PokemonGo enthusiast.

>>38635213
>Zigzagoon, Makuhita, Exploud and basicaly every earlymon can
You are just a shit trainner. I'm suprised you made it to the sixth gym.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 21:31:03 No.38635625 Report

Quoted By: >>38636589

>>38635576
I don't think you're understanding the overall point which is that you are being forced to choose certain mons. it breaks the game's immersion and is just a tedious artifact. I can't imagine not sharing this gripe. I've played these games dozens of times and I've trained over half those mons and I just don't want to do it anymore. it's really not that hard to understand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 21:35:15 No.38635653 Report

Quoted By: >>38635684 >>38635692 >>38635807

Gen 1 has lapras, ryhorn, nidoking/queen and vaporeon

Gen 2 has gyarados, quagsire and ryhorn

Gen 3 has wishcash, sharpedo and hariyama

Gen 4 has vaporeon, munchlax, weavile, rampardos, garchomp, gastrodon

Gen 5 had tirtouga, alomomola, tympole audino and simipour which is is a handout

Stop whining. The game being harder is a good thing anyways

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 21:38:34 No.38635671 Report

Quoted By: >>38636589

imagine if cut had always been a bug 80bp move

so many issues solved on a single package, bugs get a good STAB from gen 1, a move that is not a waste of a slot, it would have helped tons of mons deal with OP psychic in old gens, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 21:39:54 No.38635684 Report

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>>38635653
How is that harder?
It's just a chore, really, there's no challenge in keeping a pokemon for surf around, it's just boring and repetitive to do, if you play the Pokemon games a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 21:41:15 No.38635692 Report

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>>38635653
>Gen 1 has lapras, ryhorn, nidoking/queen and vaporeon
used them all before
>Gen 2 has gyarados, quagsire and ryhorn
used them all before
>Gen 4 has vaporeon, munchlax, weavile, rampardos, garchomp, gastrodon
used them all before

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 21:47:14 No.38635752 Report

Quoted By: >>38635766

I never understood why people dont just box their HM slaves until they are needed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 21:48:34 No.38635766 Report

Quoted By: >>38635791

>>38635752
switching between a pokemon and a hm slave can be tedious as fuck. it's just better to keep them on hand since you need them a lot of the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 21:52:28 No.38635791 Report

Quoted By: >>38635804

>>38635766
>since you need them a lot of the time
You really don't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 21:54:09 No.38635804 Report

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>>38635791
yes you do. don't bother replying since i'm right and you're wrong.

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Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 21:55:25 No.38635807 Report

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>>38635653
backtracking to a pokemon center increases the difficulty level!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 21:55:31 No.38635808 Report

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Yes HMs are a meme, but idk why you're complaining now since the last couple of games basically removed them, so they definitely understand nobody wants them anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 21:56:32 No.38635817 Report

Quoted By: >>38635827

>>38635077
>forced to use one of the better types and one of the best water moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 21:58:37 No.38635827 Report

Quoted By: >>38635879

>>38635817
Being forced to use anything is bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 22:03:18 No.38635859 Report

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this is why bibarel is the king of all HM slaves
>HGSS
>RSE
>being forced to use two HM slaves
vomit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 22:05:05 No.38635879 Report

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>>38635827
How else do you go across a body of water? By having a 10 year old buy a boat or something? Sorry kid, but some things in life have to be done by force

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 22:05:39 No.38635886 Report

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>>38635096
Based gen7

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 22:07:27 No.38635902 Report

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>>38635077
play USUM you tit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 22:11:28 No.38635940 Report

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But can it learn surf, whirlpool, waterfall AND dive?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 22:18:03 No.38635984 Report

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One pokemon for surf, waterfall and dive
One pokemon for cut, strength, headbutt and rocksmash
One pokemon for fly
One pokemon for dig and flash and rockclimb
One pokemon for teleport and sweet scent

Am i missing anything here

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 22:19:32 No.38636000 Report

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I just stick Fly and Surf on the Latios that the game gave me and never use it in battle.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 22:46:28 No.38636202 Report

Quoted By: >>38636242

>Have to use a water and flying type on my team every gen (except for 7) for the HM's
What was GF smoking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 22:52:18 No.38636242 Report

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>>38636202
You can just leave your Flymon in the PC, it's not that important to have on you 24/7

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 22:59:07 No.38636294 Report

Quoted By:

>>38635077
Why do people think you need to use fly to beat the game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 23:35:33 No.38636589 Report

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>>38635625
>i played tons of pokemon before and get bored of pokemon gameplay, now i want it to be in my very personal way
So just get out of this franchise or get a hackrom.

>>38635671
THIS is a good complain. Cut and rock smash get outclassed early, but still bearable since at some point you dont need cut anymore.
Complain about strong moves like surf/fly/dive its stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 23:56:26 No.38636756 Report

Quoted By: >>38638099

>>38635123
>Not using Seismitoad or Carracosta
Both of these are pretty solid anon.
>inb4 4× gras weakness ewwwww
Grass is literally one of the easiest typse to have coverage for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 23:58:07 No.38636770 Report

Quoted By:

>>38635103
>Caring about physical/special split in game

Suck less?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 23:59:07 No.38636783 Report

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>>38635077
Surf isn't so bad of a move though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 00:00:05 No.38636796 Report

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>>38635077
You could have complained about teaching Cut, Strength, Flash, Rock Smash, Flash, Defog, Dive or Whirlpool, but Surf?

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Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 00:10:18 No.38636874 Report

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>>38635077

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 00:16:57 No.38636927 Report

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HM's wouldn't be so bad if you could just delete them from your movepool like a normal move.
I always thought it was stupid how the Machine type that has unlimited uses was the one they chose to make the moves unforgettable without NPC help

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 02:29:02 No.38638061 Report

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>>38635077
>not waterfall
At least Nidoking and Aggron and whatever can learn surf. You're basically forced to pick up some water type shitmon to get to the elite four

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 02:35:27 No.38638099 Report

Quoted By: >>38639112

>>38636756
>Seismitoad or Carracosta

I REALLY WANTED to use them but for some reason Gamefreak decided to move the only good Gen 5 water types to the postgame in B2W2. Fucking hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 03:40:02 No.38638619 Report

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>>38635121
I know. That's what I was implying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 04:25:14 No.38638874 Report

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>>38635413
>he can't press the B button

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 04:56:04 No.38639112 Report

Quoted By: >>38640748

>>38638099
Jellicent is better than both and you actually get it during the main game

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 07:55:04 No.38639921 Report

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>>38635077
you are probably the same type of person who shits on LGP/E

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 07:56:24 No.38639927 Report

Quoted By: >>38639935

>>38635077
even Rhydon can Surf
do more research

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 07:57:34 No.38639935 Report

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>>38639927
read the thread newfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 10:42:00 No.38640748 Report

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>>38639112
>Jellicent is better than both
Not really, but by the time you get it it's too late for it to even matter

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 13:34:12 No.38641616 Report

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>>38635121
That's what he is saying... dumbass.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 13:43:09 No.38641654 Report

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>>38635077
>catch a water pokémon
>it will have 3 slot moves taken by dive, surf and waterfall

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