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Ultra Beasts

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:50:27 No.38635310 View View Reply Original Report

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>ultra beasts are just pokemon with different designs
>no triple types
>no dual abilities
>no six move-sloths
>the designs aren't that interesting to begin with
Missed potential.

Also post monsters from other franchises that would have been great ultra beasts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:52:00 No.38635324 Report

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you start

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Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:53:23 No.38635337 Report

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Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:57:26 No.38635370 Report

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One of the first games Game Freak ever made was a Yoshi game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 20:59:17 No.38635387 Report

Quoted By: >>38635592 >>38636709

so basically you think that ultra beasts should have completely broken the game? I do sort of agree in that I hoped they would be more like boss monsters instead of just weird-looking pokemon with minmaxed stats and a steamrolly ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 21:01:09 No.38635403 Report

Quoted By: >>38635415 >>38636361

>>38635310
Ultra Beasts are only interdimentional Pokemon and the shit about "only 4 moves" is just game mechanics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 21:02:18 No.38635415 Report

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>>38635403
All of the adaptations stick to four moves too

The anime's been sticking to the four move limit for quit a while now, and the manga always stuck it it as far as I know

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 21:11:00 No.38635480 Report

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>>38635310
>Also post monsters from other franchises that would have been great ultra beasts.
You start.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 21:27:06 No.38635592 Report

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>>38635387
I think he just wants Ultra Beasts to be deserving of the name, there's nothing really 'Ultra' about them, they're no different from a lot of other pokemon.

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Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 23:03:18 No.38636333 Report

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>>38635310
mangagarurumon idk I think you meant
arcadiamon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 23:06:46 No.38636361 Report

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>>38635403
>the shit about "only 4 moves" is just game mechanics.
OP is a dumbass for wanting UBs to break the game but so are you for not understanding that gameplay and narrative are inherently linked so that breaking established gameplay rules is a valid way to establish something as "alien."

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 23:28:17 No.38636542 Report

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I still firmly belive UB's shouldn't be considered pokemon and shouldn't be in the national dex

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 23:50:42 No.38636709 Report

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>>38635387
>>38636361
None of the things OP said would be game-breaking unless you use the 3 of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 00:06:35 No.38636845 Report

Quoted By: >>38637512 >>38638577

>>38635310
I just peered back at Pokemon and learned these were a thing. That and Mega evolutions. What the fucking fuck did they do to Pokemon? What the fuck happened to the purity of the concept? Why are there 10 different electric rodents?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 01:22:47 No.38637512 Report

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>>38636845
Pokemon evolved since Gen 1
Other dimensions were a thing since Gen 2 (Unown and Togetic)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 02:54:31 No.38638275 Report

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>>38635310
>dude lets mechanize this furry and shit
fuck that cringy furry artist that drew all these designs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 02:57:50 No.38638304 Report

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>>38637512
>b-but Kanto
fuck off

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Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 03:10:15 No.38638425 Report

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>>38635310
Unironically one of the elder dragons from Monster Hunter. I'd think either Valstrax or Gore Magala specifically would be great choices.

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Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 03:21:21 No.38638520 Report

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>>38638275
> fuck that cringy furry artist that drew all these designs
Anon you do realize Pokemon is just as bad, if not worse?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 03:24:42 No.38638541 Report

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My problem with UB is their presentation, They're treated as collectables and nothing else, The only one that actually stood out was Nihilego and that's because Lusamine NTR'd her children for it to the point of nearly flooding the world with UBs, the rest are just for you to finish up a shopping list and have little to no personality or strangeness to them. Compare The Eaters from Digimon or The Septentriones from Devil Survivor, that act odd enough to stand out and in the latter's case, was much more memorable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 03:31:00 No.38638577 Report

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>>38636845
>What the fucking fuck did they do to Pokemon?
The games evolved since Red/Blue.
>What the fuck happened to the purity of the concept?
You mean running around with a team of magical creatures based on a variety of things, from real world animals and plants to ghosts, yokai, robots, and whatever you can think of? It's still that.
>Why are there 10 different electric rodents?
Because Pikachu is the mascot and every game starting with Gen 3 has had a Pikaclone they could market. Dedenne remains the worst of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 03:32:19 No.38638584 Report

Quoted By: >>38638618

>>38638577
Personally I just see it as Gimmick Hell, Digimon went through it, Yugioh went through it, now Pokemon is too, Sword & Shield will be no different.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 03:33:03 No.38638591 Report

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>>38638541
The main issue arises that the UBs have to have elements that look pokemon-ish. Digimon is such a heavily diverse franchise with no real consistent design features between monsters, whereas pokemon more or less tries to maintain elements that can make pokemon easily identifiable as pokemon. I agree that they should have gone weirder, and I think it's criminal that we didn't get to explore the worlds more in-depth outside of the little path provided to us. We really should have gotten more UBs in order to establish just how they function and what role they play, or at the very least provide some more info about them. I'm still confused as to why there are just random japanese guys standing there in Kartana's home world.

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Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 03:34:39 No.38638596 Report

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>>38638520
and it has no anatomy to boot, while digimon have muscles and shit.

Even the scrapped designs are better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 03:40:00 No.38638618 Report

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>>38638584
>Yugioh went through it
"Went" implies it ever stopped. Every series after GX introduced a new Extra Deck mechanic, each progressively more degenerate than the last.

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Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 03:40:49 No.38638622 Report

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>>38638591
That's the thing though, Despite Digimon's non-consistent design features and SMT literally having different art from different eras, The Eaters & Septentriones still stand out in both design and personality, The standard Eater for example doesn't speak, doesn't have motives, it just attacks and eats Humans & Digimon, and while there are Digimon who do not speak, and Digimon who do not eat, they're presented as animalistic, while Eaters are treated as something alien and unable to to be related to, Even as Diverse as SMT is, literally having creatures from all sorts of different religions, The Septentriones are not only unique among them, but unique to each other. Whereas some, if not all UBs could pass as Pokemon, and likewise some Pokemon could pass as UBs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 03:47:47 No.38638665 Report

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>>38638622
That's what I said. GF has never really done anything to really give us more insight into the personality of a pokemon that isn't available at first glance. They're also rather limited by the hardware they choose to work on and aren't really able to make the pokemon feel like real creatures like they should. The show isn't much better, and we don't really get to see any pokemon's personality that isn't a main mon or a shillmon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 03:50:32 No.38638681 Report

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>>38638665
I know, Sorry if it seemed like I was disagreeing with you, I was just adding to what I said, my bad Anon, oddly enough, Cyber Sleuth was limited to, but Habu was aware of it and commented on it, saying that the Vita made it difficult to experiment with areas, and it's why Next Order's International version & future titles will move away from it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 03:58:21 No.38638714 Report

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>>38635310
Most players would never even notice if Ultra Beasts had more than four move slots until after they were caught. It would completely fail at its purpose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 04:44:31 No.38639025 Report

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>>38635310
Unironically looks cooler than any Pokémon.

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