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>>38654960
In Japanese, their word for Blue often means either blue or green. This has persisted until recently where to catch up with the rest of the world, they adapted their word for Grow to mean the color of plants. The old word has persisted for things like green traffic lights, and Green vegetables (but only if you're using that as a noun on it's own instead of a noun and adjective) while as just an adjective, they will tend to use the new one.
So really it's probably just a translation issue, or maybe everyone got it right except fans throwing everything into google translate, and calling it "True localization"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 00:59:39 No.38655953 Report

Quoted By: >>38655959 >>38657669 >>38657809

>>38655814
>>Blue lines
>>Her original name is Blue
>HEY GUYS IM GREEN .---DDD
Kill yourself. America was in the wrong here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 01:01:51 No.38655959 Report

Quoted By: >>38657479 >>38661507 >>38666115

>>38655953
cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 01:04:57 No.38655979 Report

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>>38655911
She's called Blue because in Japan, the rival's name was Green, because the first two games were Red and Green. So "Blue" went to the nameless girl we saw in the promotional art.

You're trying really hard to make it sound like "Green" is the true name, and not just a result of the English localization calling the rival Blue because our first games were Red and Blue, and thus, she had to be named Green.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 01:06:05 No.38655985 Report

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>>38655911
>they adapted their word for Grow to mean the color of plants
so would a better translation of the move Growth now be "Greenth"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 01:11:07 No.38656022 Report

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>>38654960
>Throws pokeballs at you
>Propositions that you become her pokemon
What did she mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 01:49:58 No.38656262 Report

Quoted By: >>38660757

>To this day Leaffags still trying to split the Bulbapedo article on her in two just to have a page with the Leaf name
Faggots get autismical over the darnedest things

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 01:51:50 No.38656271 Report

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It'd make for sense for red to be green because he uses Bulbasaur. Blue to be red because he uses Charmander, and green to be blue because she uses Squirtle

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 02:04:30 No.38656360 Report

Quoted By: >>38656424

>>38654960
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it8xD8j9q5Y

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 02:13:00 No.38656424 Report

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>>38654960
All that matters is she makes my pp hard
>>38656360
>this channel is to this day, still active
What the fuck, that surprises me. I thought the only thing that came out of this channel was that one gummy bear song in 2010 or whenever that happened.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 05:26:31 No.38657479 Report

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>>38655959
I don't need to, because I still call them by their rightful names.
(You) can stay retarded though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 05:35:09 No.38657553 Report

Quoted By: >>38657649 >>38657773

>>38654960
I just don't understand. They had every opportunity to fix this since FRLG was released internationally, but they backed out immediately with HGSS by calling the Red's rival Blue again. We clearly were not being faithful to the original GSC script by changing the Tin Tower into the Bell Tower, so why keep that archaic localization change that was already fixed five or so years beforehand?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 05:51:40 No.38657649 Report

Quoted By: >>38657773

>>38657553
Yeah, I really don't get this. The previous remakes were called Fire Red and Leaf Green, "Green" was kept as the default name for the rival, and the name "Blue" had never appeared outside some super late postgame shit in GSC. It was the perfect opportunity to just declare it an old and outdated localization change just like dozens of other franchises have done.

Instead they insisted on keeping it, and now we not only have a character with a very blatantly green color scheme calling himself "Blue", he's now been joined by a character with a blatantly blue color scheme calling herself "Green". It's retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 05:57:02 No.38657669 Report

Quoted By: >>38657671 >>38657682

>>38654960
>>38655953
Honestly, the localization should have called her Leaf like in her official figure to avoid this retarded confusion.

But I don't expect much from the people who named some moves as "Baddy Bad" and "Buzzy Buzz"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 05:57:41 No.38657671 Report

Quoted By: >>38662019

>>38657669
That official figure is Japan-only. Hell, the localizers probably didn't even know about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 05:59:24 No.38657682 Report

Quoted By: >>38657773

>>38657669
The localization should've called her Blue because the HGSS localization should've been non-retarded and just called the gen 1 rival Green. Keeping the old and outdated "Blue" name is the single dumbest decision the Pokemon localization team has ever made.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 06:19:31 No.38657773 Report

Quoted By: >>38657847 >>38657860 >>38657861

>>38657553
>why keep that archaic localization change
>>38657649
>It was the perfect opportunity to just declare it an old and outdated localization change just like dozens of other franchises have done.
>>38657682
>The localization should've called her Blue because the HGSS localization should've been non-retarded and just called the gen 1 rival Green. Keeping the old and outdated "Blue" name is the single dumbest decision the Pokemon localization team has ever made.
Just as an example, NOA could have had a more faithful localization with the Mother series. With Wii U's VC having Mother 2, they could have released it as such, and given us Mother 1. But they ended up keeping the name "Earthbound" and releasing Mother 1 as "Earthbound Beginnings". They could have released all the Final Fantasy games with their proper title screens, remove the 90s censoring, etc. They could have released Pokémon Red & Green in their original forms on the 3DS VC, along with Blue and Yellow.

They had lots of opportunities to fix old, outdated localization changes and presentation with lots of games, but they never have. They're never going to change on this. The NOA we had in the 90s is the same one we still have now. You're either gonna have to accept nonsensical changes, or start playing the original Japanese games. (Like I am.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 06:27:00 No.38657809 Report

Quoted By: >>38659279 >>38659315

>>38655953
It’s fine, blue and green are the same fucking color in japanese, anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 06:35:02 No.38657847 Report

Quoted By: >>38657898

>>38657773
NOA DID change "Pokey" to "Porky" in Smash Bros Brawl and on because they realized that's what it was supposed to be, and that "Pokey" looks really stupid when the character has an obvious pig theme going on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 06:37:18 No.38657860 Report

Quoted By: >>38657927

>>38657773
The VC releases are MEANT to be identical to the old releases from back in the day. People are talking about remakes and new material featuring the same names, not rereleases of the old games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 06:37:34 No.38657861 Report

Quoted By: >>38657879

>>38657773
But that's the problem. FRLG simply existing retconned RBY at the time. They purposefully went back used the name Blue for Red's rival in HGSS even though they had remakes which fixed the original change. This isn't a matter of releasing RBY or GSC on the Virtual Console; this is missing literally the perfect scenario to undo the change for all future installments. For fuck's sake, his bedroom in HGSS is even color-coded green. At least 90's localization, despite all its butchery, had the good sense to swap graphical assets that don't fit the localization changes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 06:41:37 No.38657879 Report

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>>38657861
They've also changed Tin Tower to Bell Tower and Celadon Mansion to Celadon Condominium after realizing the original localizations were mistranslations. They even finally got off their asses and fixed Faint Attack to Feint Attack.

They have no excuse for this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 06:46:37 No.38657898 Report

Quoted By: >>38657926

>>38657847
The incredible thing is, Pokey isn't even really a mistranslation; it matches the phonetics of ポーキー perfectly fine. There just happened to be a more thematically accurate interpretation of the katakana available that the translators didn't realize at the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 06:51:40 No.38657926 Report

Quoted By: >>38657958

>>38657898
>The incredible thing is, Pokey isn't even really a mistranslation; it matches the phonetics of ポーキー perfectly fine.
That's... not how translation works, anon. Just because something CAN be translated a certain way in certain situations doesn't mean it "isn't really a mistranslation" when translated that way in the wrong context.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 06:51:47 No.38657927 Report

Quoted By: >>38657942 >>38657955

>>38657860
>The VC releases are MEANT to be identical to the old releases from back in the day. People are talking about remakes and new material featuring the same names, not rereleases of the old games.
That excuse would work if they didn't go out of their way to let the Player get the GS Ball in the VC Release of Crystal.

They clearly were ready to do that kind of things if they had to, but you're telling me they couldn't start that window of re-releases by changing a SINGLE. STRING. OF TEXT.?
Nah mate, that's gonna be a "No" from me.

And yes, it's a matter of modifying 1 single line of a single file.
https://github.com/pret/pokered/blob/8addeffe6fb5012113e695b17680734933076e8e/engine/oak_speech2.asm#L209
There. More than 20 fucking years of dragging a literal mistake solved in a single second.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 06:54:27 No.38657942 Report

Quoted By: >>38657961

>>38657927
They also kept "Planet Zebeth" is the VC releases of Metroid even though it's been officially "Zebes" in literally everything released since the 90s. So are you saying they retconned it back to Zebeth because the most recent release of a Metroid video game uses that spelling?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 06:55:54 No.38657955 Report

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>>38657927
>And yes, it's a matter of modifying 1 single line of a single file.
Alright, not a single line, but Ctrl+H exists and any text editor or environment used to develop anything has a Replace function, so the point still stands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 06:56:45 No.38657958 Report

Quoted By: >>38657972

>>38657926
They didn't realize it until Mother 3, though. Nothing outside of his character design gave much indication that "Pokey" was incorrect in the context of EarthBound.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 06:57:06 No.38657961 Report

Quoted By: >>38657990 >>38658044

>>38657942
>So are you saying they retconned it back to Zebeth because the most recent release of a Metroid video game uses that spelling?
No? I don't even like Metroid and idk what you're talking about.
I'm saying that they had literally no excuses not to fix their error with the VC Re-Releases of RBY, after having missed the chance with FRLG or HGSS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 06:59:01 No.38657972 Report

Quoted By: >>38657993

>>38657958
Yeah, and nothing in GS gave much indication that "Tin Tower" was incorrect either. It was the Crystal Bell item in Crystal that made them realize the fuckup.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 07:01:41 No.38657990 Report

Quoted By: >>38658016

>>38657961
The point is that they don't change text in VC releases, even when they're of games that use super fucking outdated localization that were dropped over 20 years ago. They just don't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 07:01:59 No.38657993 Report

Quoted By: >>38658024

>>38657972
Yet they still localized the Burned Tower's true name as the Brass Tower in Crystal. I wonder what HGSS would have corrected that to, if the "Brass Tower" would have ever been referenced to?

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Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 07:03:34 No.38658005 Report

Quoted By: >>38659075

>>38654960
>textbox names the character who is currently speaking
>character introduces themselves anyway

why do they do this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 07:04:54 No.38658016 Report

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>>38657990
And my point is that it is retarded to avoid Ctrl+H'ing a single word, when they already went out of their way to do something far more drastical.

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Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 07:05:28 No.38658024 Report

Quoted By: >>38658033 >>38658065

>>38657993
It's a bit shitty because English doesn't really use different words for kane and suzu.

Kane and suzu CAN mean "brass" and "tin", which is how they were originally localized because that's what the localizers mistakenly assumed the names were supposed to be.

However, "kane" can also mean pic related

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Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 07:07:03 No.38658033 Report

Quoted By: >>38658065

>>38658024
and "suzu" can mean pic related.

Of course, the problem is that normally you'd call them both "bells" in English.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 07:09:35 No.38658044 Report

Quoted By: >>38658057

>>38657961
>No? I don't even like Metroid and idk what you're talking about.
In the Metroid franchise, there's a planet called Zebes. In the first game, and the first game ONLY, it was localized as "Zebeth", every other game starting with Metroid 2 back in 1992 uses "Zebes".

Yet despite this, all VC releases and other rereleases of the original NES Metroid keeps the "Zebeth" spelling. Why? Because the point is to keep the games as close to the original as possible, warts and old mistranslations and shit and all. All VC games are handled like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 07:12:28 No.38658057 Report

Quoted By: >>38658073

>>38658044
>Why? Because the point is to keep the games as close to the original as possible, warts and old mistranslations and shit and all. All VC games are handled like that.
You've already been proven wrong, so idk why you keep saying that, to be quite desu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 07:13:02 No.38658065 Report

Quoted By: >>38658087

>>38658024
>>38658033
It sounds like the better option would have been to just leave them untranslated as the Suzu Tower and Kane Tower respectively. Johto is pretty traditionally Japanese being based on Kyoto, after all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 07:15:25 No.38658073 Report

Quoted By: >>38658092

>>38658057
They occasionally change minor shit. They NEVER change text unless they have to for license reasons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 07:18:34 No.38658087 Report

Quoted By: >>38660722

>>38658065
Should've just gone with Bell Tower and Chime Tower and then just said fuck it to people pointing out that what's now named the "Crystal Chime" isn't technically a chime.

They were just kinda fucked over by the fact that they had already established "Crystal Bell" as a name.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 07:19:16 No.38658092 Report

Quoted By: >>38658113

>>38658073
>They NEVER change text unless they have to for license reasons.
Well yeah, I think that is pretty obvious considering how, as I said earlier, they didn't really fix the mistake even though the chances were there. Even if I didn't understand that, nothing would change though, so I'm not sure what are you trying to tell me at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 07:22:20 No.38658113 Report

Quoted By: >>38658137

>>38658092
The point is that mistranslations not getting corrected in VC releases has nothing to do with remakes and new games. ALL VC games keep all the old mistranslations even if those games have received remakes that have corrected them. VC releases are completely irrelevant to this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 07:27:02 No.38658137 Report

Quoted By: >>38658146

>>38658113
>VC releases are completely irrelevant to this.
We're just running in circles, you know?
This is when I say "But they don't need to, as I already implied.", and then you repeat yourself, and then I repeat myself, etc, etc.

So, yeah, cheers Anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 07:29:46 No.38658146 Report

Quoted By: >>38658163

>>38658137
Not that guy, but come the fuck on anon.
No matter how much you sperg about "but they COULD fix errors in VC releases", it doesn't change the fact that they don't do that, and that that has nothing to do.with the topic at hand because the topic isn't about VC releases.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 07:32:34 No.38658163 Report

Quoted By: >>38658171

>>38658146
>it doesn't change the fact that they don't do that
And I understand that...?
That ALSO doesn't change the fact that THEY COULD. have used the chance to fix the problem in both situations.

That's why we're at a stalemate here and why I decided to back off, because we're not saying anything that we both cannot understand, and nothing we say will change the situation, not here nor with Game Freak and their behavior.

To summarize, there is literally nothing more to be said. I just saluted that Anon politely and moved on.
Well, not yet considering I'm writing this, but yeah, cheers Anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 07:34:33 No.38658171 Report

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>>38658163
The entire point here is that nobody seems to understand why the fuck you're bringing up VC releases as if they have anything to do with anything. Nothing in this thread has anything to do with VC releases. Nobody but you were talking about them

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Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 11:08:07 No.38658929 Report

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Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 12:03:46 No.38659075 Report

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>>38658005
so the character knows their names i guess, in case anyone says 'oh you know green' and the PC can know who it is

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Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 12:07:29 No.38659087 Report

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>>38654960
>green is just the jerk-ish rival green from gen 1 games after the transition
Now s(he) can be may sex slave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 12:36:01 No.38659214 Report

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Does anyone refers the rival anything but Gary?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 12:37:26 No.38659216 Report

Quoted By: >>38659230

>>38654960
"I'm SLUT!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 12:41:33 No.38659230 Report

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>>38659216
fixed bro thanks. She is a slut canonically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 12:41:45 No.38659232 Report

Quoted By: >>38659482

Does the Red version on VC has the original Pokémon sprites from Japanese Red? Or is Just BLUE (j) with other Pokémon exclusives?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 12:51:45 No.38659267 Report

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>>38655911
Maybe, but we can surely assume she was meant to be our kind of "blue" since she is depicted with this kind of color.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 12:54:32 No.38659279 Report

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>>38657809
But in English not. That's the problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 13:03:25 No.38659315 Report

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>>38657809
Having the same name does not mean that something are the samething.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 13:35:30 No.38659482 Report

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>>38659232
Pokemon Red Version, as originally released in America and Europe, is on the American and European VC.
Pocket Monsters Red Version, as originally released in Japan, is on the Japanese VC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 15:31:12 No.38660134 Report

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>>38655911
Cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 16:00:10 No.38660321 Report

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>>38655911
so the japanese are autistic. i got it.

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Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 16:28:54 No.38660570 Report

Quoted By: >>38662269

>swn try to capture you like a pokemon after you've defeated her
>swn then keep stalking you for months, suddenly appearing out of fucking nowhere to try and capture you again with some crazy plan of hers
>ywn give up and accept to follow her around for a while, hoping she'd quickly grow bored of you so you can get back on the road and enjoy the easy life of training pokemons and stealing the money of some poor bug catcher or pre-schooler
>ywn slowly grow closer to her, seeing her as a worthy friend instead of simply an antagonist
>all the while still capturing the rare mons right from under her nose, just to piss her off every now and then
>swn end her frustrated bout with 'whatever, it may be your pokemon now but you're mine too anyways, so it's like it's mine, right?'
>ywn nod with a blush on your face and a heart pounding in your chest, before catching up to her as she goes on her antics some more
good lord why is she so perfect

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 16:44:43 No.38660722 Report

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>>38658087
Alternatively, go with Ring Tower and Jingle Tower to go with the types of sounds each bell makes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 16:49:45 No.38660757 Report

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>>38656262
What?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 18:16:53 No.38661507 Report

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>>38655959
Cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 19:13:41 No.38662019 Report

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>>38657671
>That official figure is Japan-only. Hell, the localizers probably didn't even know about it.
Figures from that line are slowly being brought to the states officially via Pokemon Center.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 19:23:09 No.38662088 Report

Quoted By: >>38662223

>>38655814
She's not wearing panties.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 19:36:24 No.38662223 Report

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>>38662088
what a slut

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 19:40:26 No.38662269 Report

Quoted By: >>38662398

>>38660570
blue pls bully me

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Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 19:55:02 No.38662398 Report

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>>38662269
can't be bullying if you ask for it
not that she'd say no to her favorite slav--pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 21:19:00 No.38663060 Report

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>>38655824
Based english

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 21:37:48 No.38663239 Report

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You guys are speaking English and in English her name is Green. Unless you also call Charizard "Lizardon" or trash and Cherrygrove "Yoshino City", you have no justification to call her Blue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 21:38:42 No.38663245 Report

Quoted By: >>38663483 >>38664170

>>38654960
This bitch being in Lets go was a mistake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 22:03:51 No.38663483 Report

Quoted By: >>38664183

>>38663245
the only mistake is that there's little chance she'll ever appear in any other game, and especially not expressing yandere vibes like she did there

that may actually be let's go's biggest flaw, not enough green

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 22:59:06 No.38663997 Report

Quoted By: >>38664967

>>38655814
I want her to peg me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 23:17:32 No.38664170 Report

Quoted By: >>38664183

>>38663245
She should've been in SM with Red and Blue or at least been there instead of Red if you played as the female MC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 23:18:54 No.38664183 Report

Quoted By: >>38664288 >>38665285

>>38663483
>>38664170
Good she should stay abandoned forever after lets go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 May 2019 23:29:10 No.38664288 Report

Quoted By: >>38667501

>>38664183
Do you think they'll bring her back for Adventures Let's Go chapter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 May 2019 00:54:49 No.38664967 Report

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>>38663997
Based?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 May 2019 01:42:17 No.38665285 Report

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>>38664183
>He doesn't want the most mentally ill yandere to reverse mating press you
Pokemon needs characters like Green and a change of interest in general to actually get more people to buy the games. The last thing they should be doing is leaving behind another feature or idea in their previous games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 May 2019 03:49:43 No.38666115 Report

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>>38655959
Cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 May 2019 08:03:33 No.38667501 Report

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>>38664288
Why the fuck would he do that shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 May 2019 08:14:05 No.38667527 Report

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Cheap Switch when. I want to play Lets Go Pee just for her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 May 2019 08:20:21 No.38667545 Report

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>>38655911
Her actual name is Blue in Japanese. Only reason why the whole blue/green translation nonsense happened in the first place was because Westerners and burgertards like red-blue dichotomy, while Asians use red-green dichotomy. (Blastoise was also much more marketable in the West than Venusaur.)

So Westerners never had a Pokemon Green, so the rival (who should be Green) had his name changed to Blue in the English release. As a result, THIS character, whose name is Blue, is localized to Green.

I mean, the model itself is wearing a blue shirt (same with the character's concept sheets). This character is Blue. The rival is Green.

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