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This monsterous fuck is going to be an absolute beast of war. It has 2 solid abilities, it has a passable typing but most important it has a fucking SHELL. That's it, that's the key to victory right there, just having a fucking shell. Here's how this is going to go down, this fucker right here is going to have access to Shell Smash. It's going to have a high attack stat and more than likely a high defense stat too, special defense I have no idea, it'll probably be subpar but whatever, it is what it is. Speed is the only thing I'm not sure on really. Realistically, if it gets around 75+ speed then it'll probably be a monster, because that combined with Shell Smash will mean it's going first always. So after everything I've said about this fucker you'd think I'm pretty happy with him, and to be fair I am but I have one fucking problem. Just one. If everything I've speculated in terms of its stats turn out correct, what will seperate it from Barbaracle? Because Barbaracle has similar stats to the shit I assume this thing will have, Barbaracle has shell smash, a good move pool, good abilities and the exact same typing. It's kind of of deflating actually. The only thing Drednaw could have different would be maybe some of the fang moves to provide a different set of coverage moves I suppose. Do we think it'll evolve anyway? I'm not so sure, I'm split 50/50 on this guy. Personally, I hope it does and I hope it drops the water typing specifically, but I doubt that will happen, I predict it'll drop the fucking rock typing which I would have prefered for it to keep and instead of that it'll pick up either the steel or dragon typing in conjunction with water. I'm holding out for a rock type move with more accuracy than our current rock type stuff, perhaps a biting move to make use of its Strong Jaw ability?
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>>38856685 >This monsterous fuck is going to be an absolute beast of war. It's going to be mediocre.
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>>38856685 >shit typing >slow it's just carracosta 2.0 i.e. a shitmon
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>>38856923 >shit typing Cringe.
Water Rock is an amazing offensive typing.
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>>38856947 On something that can actually do something with it instead of sitting there like a retard and dying in one turn, maybe.
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>>38856953 It just needs to be Barbaracle tier to be good, aka UU. Something doesn't need to be OU specifically to qualify for that.
If it is more like Carracosta and less like Barbaracle though, then yes, it'll be shit.
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>>38856965 Barbaracle is below RU and Drednaw is guaranteed to be slower than it. It's trash.
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It's fucked because it's gonna be a single stage mon with 350-450 BST. No saving it.
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>>38856979 >Barbaracle is below RU No it isn't, it's UU.
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>>38857004 Nope. It's below RU.
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>>38856685 Dragon/water is desiderable
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>>38857013 Except it isn't you absolute retard. It's factually UU.
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>>38857024 It's factually below RU.
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>>38857026 No amount of tantrums you throw will change the fact that it's in UU.
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>>38857024 He’s baiting you, you moron.
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>>38857004 >>38857013 Barbaracle is below RU, but it has a small niche in UU. I don't follow UU so it might've also been UU at some point, then eventually fell off due to meta changes.
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>>38857044 I literally couldn't give a fuck, it's my thread so if he wants to give me a reason to keep bumping it then I will gladly accept.
>>38857049 It's UU.
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>>38856685 Not every Pokemon that has a shell can learn Shell Smash.
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>>38857038 No amount of tantrums you throw will change the fact that it's below RU. Stop seething so hard that your shitty turtle Temtem is guaranteed to be shit.
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>>38857058 Maybe not but most of them do so it's a reasonable assumption to make.
>>38857069 Loving every laugh, you're the one who came in here crying your eyes out.
Barbaracle is UU. Cope harder nigger lmao
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>>38856685 Realistically, it's not going to be higher than Base 75+ speed if it gets Shell Smash. Nothing on the list of Pokemon with Shell Smash has Speed higher than Cloyster (base 70). Even Huntail and Gorebyss have base 52.
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>>38857157 To be fair it's fine having speeds in the 60s-70s as a shellsmashing IMO. Ideally you wanna go second to soak up the attack by making use of your non lowered defenses as you Shell Smash, and having a base speed in that range is more than good enough to outspeed the vast majority of shit at +2.
What won't be ideal is if it gets a speed in the 30s.
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>>38856685 Please give a stab rock or water biting move
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>>38857192 Anon... It's speed is probably gonna be in the 40s.
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>>38856685 The only way it can be redeemed is if it becomes water/steel or water/dragon
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>>38857267 Nice edit, faggot
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>>38857267 >NUBL not even him but do you even know what that is? for all intensive purposes it's RU. the only reason the usage isnt higher is because the pokemon look ugly.
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>>38857376 >not even him but do you even know what that is? It's below RU.
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>>38857376 >NUBL (NU Banlist) is the banlist for NU and is not a playable tier. NUBL Pokémon are not RU by usage (i.e., they do not have above 3.41% usage in RU) but cannot be used in NU. it's RU.
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>>38856918 >I didn't read the Pokemon's description. Anonymous
>>38857038 what are you trying to prove here? it's NUBL. That means its NU by usage but too strong to be used with other NU mons. It have a viability ranking in RU and UU so it gets an analysis but it isn't used enough in either of those tiers be in them by merit.
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>>38857431 >what are you trying to prove here? That it's UU.
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>>38857489 As
>>38857376 said it's not used by many people because they find it replusive to look at.
For all intensive purposes, Barbaracle is a UU tier Pokemon from a stat + movepool point of view.
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>obsessing this much over smogon tiers Have sex, the both of you.
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>>38857695 Have sex with us.
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>>38857157 Crustle and Omastar have the advantage of Weak Armor, the rest needs like mixed sets or extra Adrenaline Orb help.
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Turtle pokemon don't get shell smash shell smash requires a nominally detachable shell as for stats 80 125 110 55 55 70 only boost move it gets is curse and rock polish
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Honestly it's bizarre that Barbaracle isn't RU proper, Z-Rock + Shell Smash is godly and it's the most viable Shell Smash user overall.
>>38857937 >Turtle pokemon don't get shell smash See
>>38857157 The only turtles who miss out on Shell Smash are the Turtwig line, because their shells aren't hard enough I guess, and the Squirtle line, because Game Freak fucking hates them. Torkoal, the Tirtouga line, and Turtonator can all smash the shell.
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This guy feels like Crawbrawler to me. They are introducing him in a way where you don't think he'll evolve. The statement of emphasizing how hard he is to train gives a way that your training is going to pay off eventually.
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>>38856823 Nigga do you not know what a snapping turtle is
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>>38857937 >Turtle pokemon don't get shell smash What did he mean by this?
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>>38858195 water/steel evo maybe? they did mention it eats rocks AND iron...
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What if it's slow as shit but learns moves like Aqua Jet and Accelrock? Both of which would be stab obviously.
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>>38858195 so his evolution is going to be an Ice/Rock abomination that ruins everything good about the prevo?
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>Another Rock/Water type that I like Lads... Sorry but quite frankly I'm going to have to selfish about this, I would rather deny us all the chance of getting a good mon if it means Drednaw's evo losing the Rock typing. Personally I couldn't give a fuck about it dropping the Water typing, as long as that Rock type sticks I'm fine with any other type complimenting it.
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It would need a miracle for it to be above RU That's sad but unless is a minmaxed, huge movepool and broken ability fiend rock water has it rough asf
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>>38858282 I'm putting my money on this desu.. maybe even sucker punch too
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>>38856918 Still faster than Vikavolt
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>>38858282 I would definitely get behind that
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>>38856685 it will end up outclassed in pu there's not a chance it'll be any good
>>38857425 Escavalier
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>>38856685 What if it's evolution wound up Water/Steel?
Like it ate so much iron it refined it's jaw and rocky shell into metal.
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>>38856923 It's worse
>no sturdy in a stealth rocks meta It's gonna be a low leader used mon with focus sash like Cloyster with worse moves.
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i hope gamefreak never stops making turtles
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>>38859113 I can't see it staying Water/Rock, way too much overlap with Tirtouga and Carracosta
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>>38856923 Caracosta stats are like that because its fossil. This is a survivor so it should have better stats.
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>>38856823 You know an alligator snapping turtle is an actual animal right?
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>>38856685 It will evolve into rock steel
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>>38860379 same, every single turtle pokemon is great
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>>38859435 Isn’t Sturdy less useful in a Stealth Rocks meta???
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>>38860520 Yes, the guy is retarded.
Even if he is implying leading with it, the main stealth rocker culprits are blatantly obvious and can be abused when you know theyre going to lead.
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>>38859435 >sturdy >on pokemon who are bulky enough to survive hits the two abilities Drednaw has already make it superior to carracosta before we even see its stats, and it can't be any slower than that piece of shit.
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>>38856823 brainlet tier post