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Starter and other Pokemon stats

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 20:40:18 No.38904499 View View Reply Original Report

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw_LXidB16M&feature=youtu.be

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 20:46:48 No.38904750 Report

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>>38904499
Even with ev's that's still a pretty high attack stat for the first stage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 20:47:20 No.38904767 Report

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>adamant grookey
based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 20:47:30 No.38904776 Report

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>>38904499
What's dynamax level

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 20:49:11 No.38904837 Report

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Literally who cares? Games are shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 20:49:37 No.38904863 Report

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>>38904750
It's a corgi, yet has shit speed. Wtf have these fuckers never seen a corgi run?
'nother slow electric type. Shit ability too.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 20:50:28 No.38904884 Report

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>>38904837
Here's your (You).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 20:51:40 No.38904931 Report

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>>38904499
corviknight will literally be a better skarmory if it gets hazards

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 20:55:26 No.38905048 Report

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>>38904863
>Using bulbapedia's way of finding base stats it's base speed is 17
OHNONONONO

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 20:56:14 No.38905083 Report

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What is glossifleur doing in a water gym

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 20:56:39 No.38905099 Report

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>>38904837
Fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 20:58:01 No.38905155 Report

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>>38904499
Not a mixed attacker?
That's a pretty high attack though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 20:58:19 No.38905165 Report

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>>38905099
Nah, cunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 20:58:29 No.38905172 Report

Quoted By: >>38905289

>>38904499
>sobble high spa attk low attk
>scorbunny high attk low spa attk
>grookey mixed
so grookey will be the next shillmon?
>greninja was mixed
>inceniroar was mixed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:00:28 No.38905237 Report

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>>38904863
It'll evolve into that racing dog with a lightning tail whose silhouette is used in one of the stadiums. Surely it'll be fast once it evolves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:00:44 No.38905248 Report

Quoted By: >>38905401

>>38905048
>>38904750
Also inb4 "but evs!"
The dog clearly has no evs in speed in the demo, or defense and sp attack
so
Speed : 17
Sp Attack: 24

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:02:13 No.38905289 Report

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>>38905172
Deshitueye was more mixed than Incineroar, though

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:03:07 No.38905328 Report

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>>38904750
i'm no game expert, but aren't these shit stats even for a beginning of the game shitmon? Like base 15 speed, come on that's slowpoke tier. And it has worse attack and defense than rattata.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:03:11 No.38905333 Report

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>>38904750
>low speed
Sad, I wanted it to be good...

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:03:28 No.38905344 Report

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>>38904499
NODDING ANIMATION FROM SUN MOON

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:04:45 No.38905396 Report

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>>38904499
>Dynamax turn 1
>One shot everything
Lmao what a fucking joke, this is worse than Z-moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:04:55 No.38905401 Report

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>>38905328
Extremely bad.
see >>38905248

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:04:57 No.38905405 Report

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>>38905333
Maybe it's the pseudo of this gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:05:14 No.38905417 Report

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>>38905289
yeah my bad. Also I guess it´s safe to assume grookey will end as a drum gorilla. I mean it actually learns uproar.

Still leaning on the fact that grookey will be shill mon
>gen 6 it was second fire evo and last water evo
>gen 7 it´s starter grass and last fire evo
>gen 8 fire and last grass

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:06:24 No.38905460 Report

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>>38904931
It has better HP but its defenses don't look that impressive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:07:16 No.38905489 Report

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So the leaks are now 100%?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:09:11 No.38905553 Report

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>>38905417
adding to this, grookey is also the bulky mon compared to the others.
>sobble and scorbunny have 53/54 def spdef
>grookey has 69 def and 79 def
>speed: grookey 79. sobble 83, scorbunny82
funny how sobble is the fastest.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:09:13 No.38905554 Report

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>>38904499
FAST
FRAIL
HIGH PHYSICAL ATTACK
Feels good to be a Scorfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:09:32 No.38905566 Report

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>>38905396
I think that "dynamax level" gauge is going to be something that builds up over several battles to prevent exactly this.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:10:32 No.38905602 Report

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corviknight

this sht better evolve

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:11:36 No.38905636 Report

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>>38904499
>4:40
>the lass gets startled when you talk to her from behind
C-cute...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:11:36 No.38905637 Report

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>>38904499
Sobble and Scorbunny would have 95 sp.a and atk, respectively, if this were 31IV 0EVs. We can get a sense of what their roles will be, but there’s no way we can get an exact on base stats as these definitely have EVs on them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:12:06 No.38905654 Report

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>>38905602
It won't

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:12:28 No.38905666 Report

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>>38905602
>Two stats good/okay
>Everything else meh/shit
Ah yes, the Sun and Moon treatment.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:12:31 No.38905667 Report

Quoted By: >>38906233 >>38906409 >>38907456 >>38908148

Grookeyfag here.
I think we got screwed.
First of all, both Sobble and Scorbunny are faster and both Sobble and Scorbunny have over 110 in their primary attack stat.
Grookey has less speed and less attack and if I'm honest its defense stats don't seem to make up for it, they seem minor in comparison.
All 3 starters have 149 HP as well so it's not like Grookey is particularly bulky.

I know the Video shows the stats but here they are here just for convenience.

scorbunny
hp - 149
sp.atk 53
attack 115
sp.def 53
def 53
speed 82
hardy nature (neutral)
alert to sounds

sobble
hp 149
sp.atk 114
attack 53
sp.def 53
def 53
speed 83
hardy nature (neutral)
takes plenty of siestas

grookey
hp 149
sp.atk 47
attack 85
sp.def 69
def 79
speed 78
adamant (+atk -sp.atk)
takes plenty of siestas

Also Grookey seems to be grass/dark. I'm quite sure about it now, I wasn't convinced when Taunt was shown because all the monkeys get Taunt, but Grookey now has Knock Off too. I'm 90% sure it's gonna be Grass/Dark which means U-Turn is going to lay waste to us.
I think both Sobble and Scorbunny are gonna be leagues better, but I'm still gonna pick Grookey anyway, I'm just not deluded into thinking we didn't get fucked in the ass in this case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:12:47 No.38905676 Report

Quoted By: >>38905736 >>38905761 >>38905794

>>38904499
Assuming no Ev investment and max IVs, Base stats would be:

Sobble
HP 74 (149 at lv50)
Sp.Atk 94
Speed 56

Scorbunny
HP 74
ATK 95
Speed 55

Grookey

HP 74
ATK 75
DEF 52
Sp.Atk 27
Sp.Def 49
Speed 51

Hmm. These numbers seem off. Did I calculate correctly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:14:23 No.38905729 Report

Quoted By: >>38905843 >>38906006

>>38905602
>>38905666
Anon, those aren't the base stats, the blue things are base plus ev's and there is no way to know if those are low or high iv's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:14:25 No.38905733 Report

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>>38905602
>it’s gen 7 shit mons all over again
Will pay to have someone come and shoot me in the head

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:14:29 No.38905736 Report

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>>38905676
scorbunny will be fire/fighting confirmed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:15:20 No.38905761 Report

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>>38905676
They clearly have EVs and random IVsto avoid people getting the base stats of these pokemons

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:15:56 No.38905778 Report

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>>38904499
These have to be placeholder demo stats. This is like 425 BST. Most starter middle evos don't even have BSTs that high.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:16:21 No.38905794 Report

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>>38905676
IV's and EV's are too random of a variable. Not your fault.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:16:29 No.38905799 Report

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>>38905736
Leaks say it's pure Fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:16:54 No.38905809 Report

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>>38905602
How do you know it has 31 ivs? What if its 0?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:17:13 No.38905817 Report

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>>38905417
It would be Sobble and Grookey full evo patternfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:17:34 No.38905825 Report

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>>38905799
Leak was just talking about first form.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:17:58 No.38905836 Report

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>>38904499
>adds more trainer customization
>also adds mandatory situational outfits for gyms and bike riding
I want to see my trainer do cool things in cool clothes, why does Gamefreak keep railroading simple shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:18:19 No.38905843 Report

Quoted By: >>38906278

>>38905729
>>38905809
Just realized this retard took the exact stats from vid or whatever, whoops

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:20:06 No.38905890 Report

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>>38905165
Virgin alert

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:20:47 No.38905912 Report

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>>38905778
They clearly have EVs and we don't know their IVs.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:21:43 No.38905949 Report

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>>38905333
>>38905328
>>38904863
>>38904750
Reminder

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:22:22 No.38905969 Report

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>>38904499
Ok so the HP and Atk stats are way too big outliers compared to the other stats. So either the stats are modified for demo placeholders, or scorbunny has 255 HP 255 Atk EVs in the demo to make it easier or something.

If it does have max EVs, it'd have around 45/60/45/45/45/75 give or take 5 in each stat for EVs, for 315 BST, which is exactly where starters sit. This spread makes a lot of sense, so it's probably what's going on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:23:06 No.38905998 Report

Quoted By: >>38906242

>>38904837
fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:23:25 No.38906006 Report

Quoted By: >>38906469

>>38905729
>the blue things are base plus ev's
This is a demo so there are no EVs
>there is no way to know if those are low or high iv's
So he calculated the highest possible base stats it can have... and it's still shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:24:18 No.38906038 Report

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>>38904499
>caring about a dead game

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:24:38 No.38906047 Report

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>>38905417
>Punk Rock gorilla girl

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:25:26 No.38906082 Report

Quoted By: >>38906147 >>38906160 >>38906380

So I calculated with 0 IVs and 252 EVs in spatk and HP since other options seem to lead to weird results
Sobble for now
HP:58
Atk:48
Def:48
Spatk:77
Spdef:48
Spdef:46

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:26:18 No.38906107 Report

Quoted By: >>38907023

>>38905825
This. Also all fire/fighting starters gain their fighting type in their first stage. Since the leaker stated he stays pure fire when he evolves to his first stage, I believe he'll be another typing once he evolves. So yeah, fire/electric it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:27:11 No.38906127 Report

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>>38905949
I hope it doesn't become another edgy dog

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:27:54 No.38906147 Report

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>>38906082
Now that I look speed seems the lowest stat so clearly IVs are random and probably EVs too so there's probably no good way to calculate

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:28:01 No.38906157 Report

Quoted By: >>38906242

>>38904837
BACK OFF!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:28:05 No.38906160 Report

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>>38906082
*breaths in*
SLOW

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:29:10 No.38906202 Report

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>>38905554
I for one, hope Scorbunny either ends up as Fire/Steel or Fire/Electric with a good signature move.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:29:27 No.38906210 Report

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>>38905602
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:29:48 No.38906219 Report

Quoted By: >>38906278

>>38905602
Can you tell me how you got those stats? I thought the only thing we knew was his HP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:30:15 No.38906233 Report

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>>38905667
I’m not against grass dark but a lot of non-dark types get knock off too, and that seems like a move a monkey would have. Maybe there’s hope for a better type combo. As long as it gets a decent rock type move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:30:29 No.38906242 Report

Quoted By: >>38906456

>>38904884
>>38905099
>>38905998
>>38906157
>not absolutely loathing the topic of the board you frequent
wtf i thought i was on 4chan(nel)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:31:38 No.38906278 Report

Quoted By: >>38906411

>>38906219
see >>38905843

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:33:56 No.38906360 Report

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>>38905602
Those stats are good though
>hurr my edgebird needs to be AG tier

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:34:34 No.38906380 Report

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>>38904499
>>38906082

does anyone have the monkeys stats?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:35:18 No.38906402 Report

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>>38906380
Watch the video

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:35:23 No.38906409 Report

Quoted By: >>38906482 >>38906526 >>38911105

>>38905667
>GF gives special treatment to fire and water folks while sharting all over grass
Nothing has changed. I'm disappointed even though I expected them to pull this shit again. Part of me hoped they wouldn't do us dirty again but it just keeps fucking happening. The only thing that would save Grookey is a good HA but even then I'm sure they'll just give something better to the rabbit and chameleon.

Fuck GameFreak and Pokémon.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:35:24 No.38906411 Report

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>>38906278
Thanks... but... Now I know it wasn't worth it...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:35:35 No.38906419 Report

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>>38906202
it is literally confirmed for 9042842907 days now that they all stay mono type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:36:48 No.38906455 Report

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>>38906402

i don't want to

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:36:47 No.38906456 Report

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>>38906242
FECK OOF!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:36:49 No.38906457 Report

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>>38906419
A man can dream tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:37:16 No.38906469 Report

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>>38906006
Then what the fuck is the fucking hexagon with the blue shit you blind fuck >>38904499
. There is no way to know shit because the ev's iv's are randomized unless you somehow believe the scorbunny has base 75 HP and 97 Atk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:37:36 No.38906482 Report

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>>38906409
Rowlet just got shilled to death, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:37:36 No.38906483 Report

Quoted By: >>38906595

>>38906419
Only Scorbunny

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:37:59 No.38906494 Report

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>>38906360
Nigga he's not making it to RU with those stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:38:13 No.38906506 Report

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>>38905602
2m tall, I doubt

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:38:58 No.38906526 Report

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>>38906409
Don‘t believe the post, the stats are rigged. Monkey will be bulky and strong.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:40:49 No.38906581 Report

Quoted By: >>38913132

>>38905949
>43

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:41:08 No.38906595 Report

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>>38906419
>>38906483
Only Scorbunny's first form, even.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:42:32 No.38906633 Report

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Recalculated for Sobble. is this ok? BST seems okay at 330 but 33 seems kinda low

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:42:49 No.38906640 Report

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>>38906419
The leak only says Scorbunny stays Mono.

All evidence seems to point to Grookey being Grass/Dark

Sobble will probably also stay Mono tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:43:42 No.38906670 Report

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>Grookey got fucked so hard
B-based?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:44:37 No.38906702 Report

Quoted By: >>38912070

>corviknight is mediocre at best
Yeah fuck off. The little amount of interest I had in this game is gone
Masturbating to Nessa porn will be the extent of my involvement with gen 8

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:45:12 No.38906717 Report

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STATS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:46:36 No.38906764 Report

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>>38905602
Wasn't there a picture of a Corviknight in the demo holding an Everstone? There'd be no reason for GF to give it one if it didn't evolve.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:47:21 No.38906799 Report

Quoted By: >>38906930 >>38910486

>>38906717
Seething t b h
How could they do that to Grookey? Sobble and Scorbunny are gonna be beasts of war. Grookey is PU tier, what the fuck are those stats?
Seriously I'm not even nitpicking here, Sobble and Scorbunny look like minmaxed Pokemon, all their points are in speed and their attack stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:47:56 No.38906815 Report

Quoted By: >>38906898 >>38906960

>>38906717
>All those 33s
Idk I feel like IVs might be random. Do we have multiple sources to see if the stats are identical?

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:48:39 No.38906828 Report

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>>38906717
Press F to pay your respects to monkeyfags

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:48:53 No.38906839 Report

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>>38906717
>95 base stat
>while most 3rd starters have like 100
No

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:48:53 No.38906840 Report

Quoted By: >>38907065

>>38906717
the fuck is going on with Yamper

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:48:56 No.38906844 Report

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>>38906717
>Raven bro is medicre
Whyyyy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:49:10 No.38906855 Report

Quoted By: >>38906945 >>38906967

Im not good with this stat thing so basicaly Scorbunny Sobble and Corvinight are turing to be good state wise?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:49:56 No.38906887 Report

Quoted By: >>38911647 >>38912443

>>38906717
>Infernape 2.0 but pure fire (if the leaker is correct about that)

F

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:50:08 No.38906897 Report

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>>38906717
Kinda confusing because I feel like people are using different calculations/formulas. Using Bulbapedia's, Yamper's speed is 17 and spa is 24.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:50:09 No.38906898 Report

Quoted By: >>38908497 >>38910595

>>38906815
Nothing official, but it looks like everything has 31 IVs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:50:55 No.38906919 Report

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>>38905566
More battles then the gym grunts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:51:06 No.38906930 Report

Quoted By: >>38907307

>>38906799
Scorbunny maybe, Sobble most likely not, it's far easier to succeed as a defensive bulky Water type than a fast special attacker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:51:23 No.38906945 Report

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>>38906855
Corviknight seems to have mediocre stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:51:39 No.38906957 Report

Quoted By: >>38907014

>>38906717
Another retard not taking EVs into account. Starters are never going to have 95 fucking attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:51:44 No.38906960 Report

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>>38906815
No we don't. People are just taking the calcs they saw on the videos and throwing at a calculator with max iv's and zero ev's, we likely to know the real stats only when it leaks but for now its a way to guess which way the mons goes, like Scorbunny Atk, Sobble Sp.Atk and Grookey mixed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:51:55 No.38906967 Report

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>>38906855
Yes to all but Corviknight. He's looking pretty mediocre right now.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:53:21 No.38907014 Report

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>>38906957
This
Too much false data being spread by people that aren't taking everything into account. Not an attack, just saying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:53:40 No.38907023 Report

Quoted By: >>38907867

>>38906107
nope, leak was talking about the whole line, scorbunny is pure fire, sobble will be water/psychic and grookey grass dark.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:54:00 No.38907038 Report

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>>38906210
nah we know it has around base 100 hp from previous trailer, they also usually use 0 ivs and 0 evs in those

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:54:31 No.38907057 Report

Quoted By: >>38907151

>>38906967
Well if those stats are correct with roost and a good moveset it might be decent as a bulky mon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:54:41 No.38907065 Report

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>>38906840
it evovles

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 21:57:11 No.38907151 Report

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>>38907057
Didn't say it was shit, just mediocre. I just feel like other previous pokes are gonna be able to do it's job better than it can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:00:03 No.38907247 Report

Quoted By:

>>38906717
>highest base stat of any unevolved starter from Gen VII or earlier: 71 (Froakie's base Speed)
I'm going to take these numbers with a grain of salt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:01:29 No.38907307 Report

Quoted By: >>38908187 >>38908195

>>38906930
is that why greninja was uber in gen 6 and top of ou in gen 7

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:02:42 No.38907354 Report

Quoted By: >>38907395 >>38907452 >>38907710

Is Grookey any good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:03:59 No.38907395 Report

Quoted By:

>>38907354
looks like its gonna be shit, bulky attacker so unless it gets a good second typing and ha like vensaur itll be trash

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:05:31 No.38907452 Report

Quoted By:

>>38907354
Can't really tell. In the demo all of his stats have EVs, except for his SpA, but he has an adamant nature so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:05:37 No.38907456 Report

Quoted By:

>>38905667
im just hoping for some switcharoo, like how torracat is faster than incinaroar

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:06:15 No.38907485 Report

Quoted By:

Grookey bros...................

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:07:04 No.38907518 Report

Quoted By: >>38907926 >>38912491

Scorbunny punches mountains to dust

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:12:36 No.38907710 Report

Quoted By:

>>38907354
depends on a lot
it's not bonkers min-maxed like the other two but we need hidden ability, moveset, possible second typing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:17:13 No.38907845 Report

Quoted By:

Grookey -
>Those stats
Strike one.
>Grass/Dark
Strike two.

Only thing that has a chance of saving Grookey now is its HA but in all honesty I can't think of a single ability other than something that absolutely isn't gonna happen (like Huge Power), saving it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:18:00 No.38907867 Report

Quoted By:

>>38906419
If you’re going to correct someone, at least be correct yourself

>>38907023
Opposite of Gen 5. I’m okay with this.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:19:50 No.38907926 Report

Quoted By:

>>38907518
yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:20:26 No.38907947 Report

Quoted By: >>38908105 >>38908181 >>38908190 >>38910719

can i just ask one thing.
where the fuck is everybody? is this like smash?
do people not give a shit about stats or movepools or typings? do people only care about the reveal of the pokemon then they stop giving a shit immediately after?

>OH MY GOD BANJO GOT REVEALED WOOOOOOOOOO IVE BEEN WAITING YEARS FOR THIS!
>"yeah dude his landing lag on his neu-"
>Whatever I don't give a fuck lmao, whens the next character?
I always thought discussing usablity and theorycrafting stats and what not was more interesting.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:22:32 No.38908026 Report

Quoted By:

>another whole generation of slowmons

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:25:23 No.38908105 Report

Quoted By: >>38908278

>>38907947
Well we can't tell really tell the stats since they seem kinda screwy like some people's math in this thread have them having a base stat of 95 when not even third forms have stats like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:27:13 No.38908148 Report

Quoted By: >>38912405

>>38905667
>Thinking Grookey is Dark because of 2 moves
Ah, yes. I remember when Tangrowth and Lickilicky became Dark-type because they knew Knock Off... Face it. Grookey has that move because of its stick. While it certainly lends some more credibility that Grookey could be Dark-type when it evolves, it's not confirmed yet. Still, any Grass-type that wasn't Steel was going to suck competitively. That's the risk you take when you have a Grass-type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:27:53 No.38908171 Report

Quoted By:

Scorbunny fast strong physical attacker
Sobble fast strong special attacker
Grookey...well

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:28:27 No.38908181 Report

Quoted By: >>38908278

>>38907947
The whole fanbase is in omni-shambles over the pokedex cut right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:28:39 No.38908187 Report

Quoted By: >>38912245

>>38907307
>what is protean
It literally gets an ability that lets it get rid of it's typing and get free stabs on everything. That thing could as well have been Ice/Rock by default.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:28:41 No.38908190 Report

Quoted By: >>38908278

>>38907947
>discussing usability of a pokemon without knowing what it's totally capable of
you might actually be the dumbest human being alive

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:28:45 No.38908195 Report

Quoted By:

>>38907307
Not to mention the other chameleon Pokemon has Protean

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:31:26 No.38908278 Report

Quoted By: >>38908310 >>38908458 >>38908527 >>38910549

>>38908105
Is there any chance we'll ever be able to decode their actual stats from the info we have or is that impossible?
>>38908181
Didn't that get confirmed to be a mistranslation or was that bullshit?
>>38908190
You don't need to know it's full capability to theorycraft, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:32:23 No.38908310 Report

Quoted By:

>>38908278
>You don't need to know it's full capability to theorycraft, retard.
you do if you want of it to actually be meaningful in any way, shape, or form

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:35:23 No.38908419 Report

Quoted By:

>>38904499
nessa's got a pretty got pitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:36:39 No.38908458 Report

Quoted By:

>>38908278
>Didn't that get confirmed to be a mistranslation or was that bullshit?
No

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:38:01 No.38908497 Report

Quoted By:

>>38906898
I tried calcilating the stats for SM pokpn last gen and I learned that assuming there's some sort of standard for EVs and IVs is a mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:38:59 No.38908527 Report

Quoted By:

>>38908278
Assuming all the demo is all the same it's rather difficult. If they had different stats each time it's played and people recorded/took pictures of the stats then we could get the info more exact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:44:56 No.38908694 Report

Quoted By: >>38908828 >>38915567

They have some EVs in relevant stats
Here are my estimates for Scorbunny:
HP: 65 (128 EVs, 16 IV)
Atk: 82 (100 EVs, 31 IV)
Def: 40 (no EVs, 16 IV)
Satk: 40 (no EVs, 16 IV)
Sdef: 40 (no EVs, 16 IV)
Spd: 58 (32 EVs, 31 IV)
BST: 325
Fucked if I know though

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:47:54 No.38908798 Report

Quoted By:

>>38906717
>19 SPEED
>19 SPEED
>19 SPEED

THE CITY OF YAMPERFAGS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:49:01 No.38908828 Report

Quoted By:

>>38908694
desu speed is honestly giving me some problems, the training meter looks higher than a 30 ev range, closer to 40, but that gives a weird base stat total

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 22:55:55 No.38909020 Report

Quoted By:

>>38904499
Can someone do the calculations for each Stat ranging from 31IV 252EV to 0 IV 0EV?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 23:26:30 No.38909884 Report

Quoted By:

Here are my guesses for Yamper
HP: 74 (128, 16)
Atk: 45 (0, 16)
Def: 50 (0, 16)
satk: 40 (0, 16)
sdef: 50 (0, 16)
spd: 26 (0, 16)
Total: 285

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 23:40:33 No.38910311 Report

Quoted By: >>38911167

>>38904750
Useful in nuzlockes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 23:45:40 No.38910486 Report

Quoted By:

>>38906799
They'll fucking first stage starters, they are always bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 23:47:39 No.38910549 Report

Quoted By:

>>38908278
A couple of retards were spreading misinfornation as usual, it wasn't a mistranslation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 23:48:59 No.38910595 Report

Quoted By:

>>38906898
how can they tell they are max IVs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2019 23:52:42 No.38910719 Report

Quoted By:

>>38907947
>discussing usablity and theorycrafting stats
you're probably literally autistic

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 00:04:12 No.38911105 Report

Quoted By:

>>38906409
Going off what we know, it seems more likely that Grookey will either get a HA in the vein of Popplio (turning sound-based moves into Grass or it's secondary type) or something that aids Grass-types (since the initial promo and website talk about it's plant growing/healing abilities. Of course they could transition these details into unique moves instead and not even give Grookey a new ability, opting for something like Soundproof or something along the lines of Flower Veil.

...Guess it could always get Prankster too...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 00:06:17 No.38911167 Report

Quoted By:

>>38910311
how so?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 00:14:27 No.38911378 Report

Quoted By: >>38911604

>>38905602
100+ HP
98 Def
78 SpD
Steel/Flying
If this thing evolves, the unevolved form is gonna be a nightmare with eviolite.
Thank the stars for Knock Off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 00:22:37 No.38911604 Report

Quoted By:

>>38911378
If this thing evolves, the unevolved form is gonna be a nightmare with eviolite.

And thus it will not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 00:24:28 No.38911647 Report

Quoted By:

>>38906887
>Infernape 2.0 when it has 95 atk in base form and higher attack than speed
Assuming the 95 number isn't nonsense, it has the highest Atk stat of any first stage fire-type to ever exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 00:29:25 No.38911772 Report

Quoted By:

Any stats for dreadnaw?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 00:40:15 No.38912070 Report

Quoted By: >>38912101

>>38906717
>>38906702
I feel like people are writing off Corviknight off too fast.
Those stats compared to Skarmory's:
HP: +37
Attack: Same
Defense: -42
Sp. Atk: +16
Sp. Def: +8
Speed: -10
It has nigh Skarmory tier physical bulk thanks to its HP, and way more special bulk altogether

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 00:41:20 No.38912101 Report

Quoted By: >>38912361

>>38912070
If Corviknight gets all of Skarmory's key moves, it's flat out gonna be better than the old bird.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 00:45:29 No.38912209 Report

Quoted By:

>>38906717
BASED SCORBUNNY BASED SOBBLE!
Competitively viable. Dab on the monkeys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 00:47:01 No.38912245 Report

Quoted By:

>>38908187
>what is protean
>implying Sobble final evo won't get protean.
The other chameleon mon literally gets it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 00:51:28 No.38912361 Report

Quoted By:

>>38912101
HP/Def Corviknight actually has as as much special bulk as a HP/SpD invested Skarmory with the same nature.
If the stats are correct, this thing is gonna be good as long as it gets a good movepool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 00:53:21 No.38912405 Report

Quoted By: >>38912564

>>38908148
mudkip's first learned attack was mud slap. piplup learned metal claw upon evolution into the same-typed prinplup. fennekin learned psybeam. rowlet got astonish, pooplio got disarming voice.

it isn't unprecedented, but it's only slightly reaching for patternfags. I remember seeing people thinking froakie was gonna be /ghost 'cause it learned lick very early on. while that was wrong, ghost and dark have some similarities thematically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 00:54:54 No.38912443 Report

Quoted By: >>38912671

>>38906887
>infernape 2.0
Infernape is mixed, and chimchar's attack was no where near as high as Scorbunny's.
Scorbunny has the highest base physical attack of any 1st form starter. And Sobble has the highest base special attack of any 1st form starter.

Anon

Anon Wed 12 Jun 2019 00:56:48 No.38912480 Report

Quoted By: >>38912779

the leaker stated Scorbunny will look like a fighting type, but will be pure Fire, with fighting type moves, but it wont have the fighting type, we already know this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 00:57:22 No.38912491 Report

Quoted By:

>>38907518
*kicks*

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 00:59:36 No.38912564 Report

Quoted By: >>38912820

>>38912405
lick is only ghost because of the gastly line. for some reason jynx got it in gen 1 as well, but otherwise it was just so gastly line could have a stab move (only others were confuse ray and night shade which is unaffected by stab). so really lick should be a normal type move, which is why it wasn't a real indicator that froakie's line would end up part ghost

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 01:03:07 No.38912671 Report

Quoted By: >>38913104

>>38912443
>Infernape is mixed, and chimchar's attack was no where near as high as Scorbunny's.
Understatement. Scorbunny's Attack is higher than Monferno, Pignite and Combusken's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 01:07:07 No.38912779 Report

Quoted By:

>>38912480
He never said that about the final evo. Read next time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 01:08:55 No.38912820 Report

Quoted By:

>>38912564
yeah, I get that. regardless of move typing reasoning and whether or not it should have stayed (bite went to dark for your example, also making it and crunch the two moves I can think of that went from physical to special, then back to physical when the split happened), it's still ghost. people were looking for any clues, and that was one, even if a bit off the mark.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 01:16:08 No.38913021 Report

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Does anyone have guessimates on Impidimp's HP stat from the demo footage?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 01:19:05 No.38913104 Report

Quoted By: >>38913214 >>38913538

>>38912671
>Scorbunny's Attack is higher than Monferno, Pignite and Combusken's.
Jesus christ.
Can anyone stop this little bunny?
Would be hilarious if despite it's high attack GF for some reason gave it huge power. I mean there's no way that would happen right? That would be absurd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 01:20:12 No.38913132 Report

Quoted By:

>>38906581
This. I swear, Yamper will evolve into another slow electric type just for this again

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 01:20:16 No.38913135 Report

Quoted By:

>>38904884
Pleast stab a fucking stake on your fucking head you motherfucking hothead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 01:22:37 No.38913214 Report

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>>38913104
Honestly, it probably has tuned up atk for the demo, but I think it's fair to assume it'll be a fast, physical sweeper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 01:32:43 No.38913538 Report

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>>38913104
It's a rabbit so that means there is a high chance it'll get huge power because of muh moon bunny pun

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 01:35:38 No.38913618 Report

Quoted By: >>38913644 >>38915040

>19 speed
why GF? He doesn't even look fat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 01:36:55 No.38913644 Report

Quoted By:

>>38913618
short stubby legs

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 01:42:52 No.38913822 Report

Quoted By:

>>38905396
>dynamax turn 1 of a gym battle
>By their fourth pokemon you lose it
>Gym Leader X Dynamaxed their Y
I like it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 01:44:04 No.38913857 Report

Quoted By:

>>38904499
Do they have the stats for the Pokemon they are removing? lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 01:45:05 No.38913895 Report

Quoted By:

>>38904837
This.

Removing Pokemon is NOT ok.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 01:48:21 No.38914009 Report

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>>38904499
Yamper is the corgi's name

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 02:22:46 No.38915040 Report

Quoted By:

>>38913618
>Slower than a literal slug

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 02:40:54 No.38915567 Report

Quoted By:

>>38906717
>>38908694
Just going off BST, those numbers don't make sense.
No starter has more than 320 BST Not to mention the highest single stat if 71 for Froakie's speed.

I set all the IVs to 16 which is half (they're all halfway to level 100) and I got this:
Sobble: 50/40/40/70/40/70 310
Scorbunny: 50/71/40/40/40/69 310
Grookey: 50/50/60/40/50/60 310

310 is more in line with the average starter. Grookey is kind of guessing since its EVs are all over the place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 02:43:30 No.38915632 Report

Quoted By:

>>38904750
This ability implies Pokeballs don't break after failure, trainers are just too lazy to pick them up.

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