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What the absolute fuck are they thinking

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 14:28:19 No.38927301 View View Reply Original Report

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"A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad."
-Shigeru Miyamoto

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 14:30:17 No.38927332 Report

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Duke Nukem Forever is the best game ever.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 14:30:53 No.38927343 Report

Quoted By: >>38928829 >>38929746

>What the absolute fuck are they thinking
The same thing Game Freak has been thinking for a while now - what's the absolute minimum level of work we can get away with while still making bank?

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 14:31:27 No.38927353 Report

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>>38927301
I'll never understand why they don't just hire more people and things like that. With the amount of money the pokémon franchise makes, you'd think they'd be able to pull off the same level of quality as other nintendo franchises.
The only explanation I can find is the yearly releases, but other studios do it fine as long as they can reuse stuff, which game freaks already does.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 14:31:38 No.38927359 Report

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>>38927301
presu gib money stopid gaijin

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 14:33:00 No.38927379 Report

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>>38927332
They didn't delay it, they stopped working on it entirely then started from scratch. Not even the same thing.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 14:33:00 No.38927380 Report

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>>38927301
>muh shitmons
All the popular pokemon are in.
I don't see the problem here.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 14:34:07 No.38927397 Report

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It sucks so bad we'll probably never get the Pokémon game we want. which isn't even asking for much, get us high tier botw graphics, better animations similar to Pokémon stadium on 64,and let us catch em all you fucks

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 14:35:55 No.38927427 Report

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>>38927301
I don't want graphics, I want the Pokemon

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 14:36:46 No.38927440 Report

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>>38927301
It's Game Freak, don't expect quality from that game studio until they replace their entire department with actual talent.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 14:37:13 No.38927452 Report

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>>38927301
They fucked up the cubemap and the rock reflection is a fucking tree, lmao how rookie can a company be

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 14:37:25 No.38927455 Report

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>>38927427
Yeah graphics are whatever to me too, but they could've definitely put a little more love into it.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 14:37:25 No.38927457 Report

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Remember when people were happy we were leaving the underpowered 3DS behind and moved on to the Switch?

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 14:38:11 No.38927470 Report

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>>38927301
Fuck Miyamoto too. He ruined Paper Mario with "muh toads"

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 14:38:21 No.38927474 Report

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 14:38:29 No.38927477 Report

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>>38927301
I don't really care about the graphics though, I just want the content to be in.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 14:38:32 No.38927478 Report

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>>38927427
Good thing you aren't getting neither, right

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 14:40:41 No.38927516 Report

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>>38927474
Literally a Zelda Ocarina tree. what the hell

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 14:41:12 No.38927526 Report

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>>38927474

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 14:43:22 No.38927568 Report

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>>38927516
What thinking the same haha

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 14:54:48 No.38927845 Report

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>>38927301
According to Joe Merrick, a lot of stuff, such as TCG, merchandise, and the anime, have such complicated production cycles that is unfeasible for GF to delay these games.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 14:56:04 No.38927874 Report

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>>38927845
have they ever heard of post-release patches?
who am i kidding, of course not

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 14:57:27 No.38927899 Report

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>>38927845
Then they can cut into their 88395% profit margin and hire a few more workers

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 14:57:29 No.38927900 Report

Quoted By: >>38929352

Game Freak is so backwards, it's sad. They're just living on their past glories at this point.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:03:57 No.38928034 Report

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>>38927874
Of course I do. Point is, the game can't get delayed because so many satellite projects are derived from the main games that delaying one can hurt everything. You're also assuming Game Freak and Creatures *can* update SWSH to include updated texture for every model in 5 months.

>>38927899
Yeah, GF should hire more developers and designers considering how ambitious future projects will be with more Pokemon on increasingly stronger hardware.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:04:12 No.38928040 Report

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>>38927427
Now you are paying for shit graphics and less content. Isn't it nice to be a cuck?

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:09:34 No.38928140 Report

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>>38927301
Whatever your GF shill level might be you CAN NOT defend that berry tree.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:11:30 No.38928176 Report

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>>38928140
I-it looks fine, you're just nitpicking.Graphics don't matter. The game looks fun..

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:25:05 No.38928437 Report

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>>38928140
bub ibs not abuot the grfix!!1

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:27:05 No.38928477 Report

Quoted By: >>38928711 >>38928958 >>38929340

Why are we still spamming graphics thread? There's a way bigger problem now

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:37:30 No.38928711 Report

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>>38928477
People aren't mad just about the graphics.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:43:03 No.38928829 Report

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>>38927343
And I think that minimum level is at least have the decency of including every mon. Whatever Jewfreak, I'm out this shitty franchise now.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:46:28 No.38928902 Report

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>>38927568
>>38927474
>>38927301
At this point GF should just pass the torch to another company for development and maybe a second one for balance. They can maybe, MAYBE, still handle the designs.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:48:33 No.38928958 Report

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>>38928477
It’s the snoyboy spillover from /v/, they’re still reeling from the lack of anything actually fun so they came over here to shitpost. The graphics meme is not a real thing. Disregard

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:49:32 No.38928983 Report

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>>38927353
Also, the decision of making the game engine from scratch is pretty stupid.
They could have significantly reduced the man-hour cost of the games if they used Unreal Engine and overcome most of optimization problems with that in top of adding the games nice little details that would look gorgeous, such as moving trees.
If they have decided not to jew every cent they can, they could have delivered something much, much better, even in the same development time lapse.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:56:02 No.38929148 Report

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>>38928958
I wonder who is behind this post

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:00:10 No.38929237 Report

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>>38928040
>Now you are paying for ---
No I'm not.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:00:16 No.38929239 Report

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>>38927301
>more pogeyman mean game better

have sex bro

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:02:47 No.38929284 Report

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>>38928958
Simple but well done graphics would be fine for me, but we just got N64-tier textures with HD characters, which looks like shit.
Not even mentioning clipping and Pic related.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:05:43 No.38929340 Report

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>>38928477
The excuse before was "they cant work on the graphics when they have to work on 800 mons", but now whe know they dont do that either.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:06:12 No.38929352 Report

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>>38927900

At least they have past glories to live on. You've accomplished literally nothing throughout your entire life that you can think fondly of.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:06:25 No.38929356 Report

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>>38929284
why aren't the shadows connected to the models ??????

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:06:50 No.38929371 Report

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>>38928958
How can someone do the same thing every day all day? Literally the entire Pokemon fanbase is complaining about one thing and then there's this idiot still talking about graphics

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:07:27 No.38929387 Report

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>>38929356
Because he's fucking flying

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:07:37 No.38929393 Report

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>>38927380

kys bootlicker.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:11:23 No.38929484 Report

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I can't believe I prefer the look of the Let's go games than the next "for the fans" game.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:16:02 No.38929582 Report

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>>38927845
The Anime/TCG/Merch can pull an Orange Islands and just make shit up while Gamefreak actually puts in the minimum amount of effort to make the games.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:16:05 No.38929585 Report

Quoted By: >>38929703

>>38927301
How many years GF have for develop pokemon?
How many years SE have for develop DQ?.
Stupid faggot

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:16:39 No.38929597 Report

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>>38927301
Honestly this is what I've been fearing most for the pokemon switch games. The graphics looks so dogshit, the environment looks so bad like that new fire emblem game. And the Dynamax feels like such a weird and out of place gimmick... At least mega evolutions made some sense and was a great way to revamp some pokemon and shill the kanto starters. Sword and Shield just feels so fucking lazy and they're not even trying to hide it.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:16:44 No.38929600 Report

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In all seriousness, this or something like it was an inevitability. You don't have complete 100% retrocompatability forever without some sort of repercussions and they were paying for it in ever increasing scope issues. The reason we never got certain major features or why many new major features reuse existing assets (Alola Photo Club, Refresh) is specifically because making something that can apply universally to everything when "everything" is over 800 different things with their own little personality quirks is A LOT OF WORK.

The only answer to that is to limit the scope eventually. Something they'd previously avoided, but it was inevitable.

They're still letting you carry things forward, they're just not letting everything in Sword and Shield specifically. The games after SS will have their own things.

All that said, I'd be interested to know the specifics of exactly what made them make this decision now. Their reasoning so far is flimsy and doesn't really answer questions.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:17:25 No.38929613 Report

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>>38928040
>Now you are paying for

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:20:54 No.38929668 Report

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>>38929597
I think it's more accurate to say Gamefreak is not fit for making a game that's not FOR handhelds. This is so goddamn bad for a current gen game, for a company this big to make a game like this in 2019.

Seriously why didn't they just outsource the new Pokemon games to some other company if they're really that tired of making Pokemon games? It just reeks of laziness

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:21:08 No.38929676 Report

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It's not fair to compare a Switch game to a PS4 game.

However, it is fair to compare it to a PS2 game.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:21:26 No.38929687 Report

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>>38928983
For what it's worth, the other Switch games that use Unreal seem to have garbage battery life. Yoshi's Crafted World gets less than three hours in undocked mode, compared to a game like Mario Odyssey that could get over four. If they are optimizing for handheld, then Unreal isn't the best choice. That said, one of the first things you learn in software development is to not worry about optimization until you have the minimum viable product; fast code that doesn't work isn't of any use. They should have done it in whatever engine got the game up and running with all the Pokemon first, then later said "welp the only way to make this more optimized would be to recode everything, oh well guess it gets 2 hours of battery life."

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:22:08 No.38929699 Report

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>>38929676
Why not use something that looks good like FF12 instead of that, then?

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:22:15 No.38929703 Report

Quoted By: >>38930049

>>38929585
Delay it
Hire more professionals

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:23:17 No.38929718 Report

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>>38927332
Gearbox didn't delay DNF they just touched up the assets they were handed (very half-assedly) and released it as-is.

There is a reason when they revealed it at PAX, that they went all in on giving people merch and gifts for playing the mediocre demo. they also didn't tell people that demo was completely non-representative of anything in the game, and when you play it, that first part is a shooter Duke is playing before it zooms out to show the rest of the game which looks terrible

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:24:28 No.38929746 Report

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>>38927343

> what's the absolute minimum level of work we can get away with while still making bank?
They seem to have found it, so congrats to them.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:25:14 No.38929754 Report

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>>38927301
"We want to milku this faranchizu, prease understando"
-Masuda

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:25:37 No.38929766 Report

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>>38929699
It wouldn't be fair

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:27:02 No.38929802 Report

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>>38928902
>thinking anyone will make an effort for a franchise of this magnitude
lol gf is still head becasue they are the only one that can shit a new gen every 3 year without increasing too much the budget.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:33:42 No.38929951 Report

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>>38927899
But then Masuda will have 9 million instead of 10 million

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:35:25 No.38929984 Report

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>>38929284
so fucking stupid, they gave us the 'open world' style of game retards fawned over, but they did it entirely wrong. what's the point of having such vast plains if there's nothing to interact with and nothing to climb, so stupid. should've just given us a sun moon style game with an lgpe artstyle instead of this semi realistic empty world with gamecube textures

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:37:36 No.38930049 Report

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>>38929703
How??? Pokemon is not only videogame, is Tcg, anime, merchandise.
So stop It to be stupid

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:40:05 No.38930120 Report

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>>38929984
They should've just went back to pixels and then made a gigantic game with hundreds of hours of content because the Switch is more capable of handling a larger Pokemon game.

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