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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:40:24 No.38928761 View View Reply Original Report

>the year is 2073
>I DEMAND THAT GAMEFREAK AND CYBORGMASUDA LET ME BRING OVER ALL MY 3500 POKEMON AND MY STARTERS BACK FROM EMERALD WHO I STILL FEEL EMOTIONAL FOR
>How DARE they not balance the game around all 3500 Pokémon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:42:37 No.38928812 Report

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>>38928761
>tfw kantochad who hasn't had a single issue with transferring any of the only 151 Pokemon who matter forward into any game ever made

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:42:38 No.38928813 Report

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>>38928761
When you grow old and die you will leave your bros behind in the data chip, alone and forgotten for eternity. He just wants to end that suffering before it begins

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:43:57 No.38928846 Report

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>not wanting to be with your bro for 70 years and counting
Faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:44:47 No.38928864 Report

Quoted By: >>38928954

Pokemon has never, ever been balanced, you cuck. They have never made any real effort, and they never will.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:46:45 No.38928911 Report

Quoted By: >>38929034

>>38928761
It's not "gotta balance them all"
It's "gotta catch em all"

The whole point is that there are more pokemon to catch every time a new game comes out. It's the only good thing about the games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:47:07 No.38928917 Report

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Why can't bootlickers ever argue without using I AM SILLY?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:48:00 No.38928939 Report

Quoted By: >>38930213

>>38928761
>2073
>gen 8 is in 2019, total pokemon will be about 920 (we'll call it 1000 for simple math)
>if we assume three years per gen, and 100 new pokemon per gen this means
>gen 9 is 2022 and brings the total to 1100
>gen 10 in 2025 total to 1200
etc.
>gen 26 in 2013 total comes to 2800
Considering they can reuse models and really only have to remake sufficiently old ones, asking them to make 100 new 3d models every three years isn't that much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:48:04 No.38928944 Report

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>>38928761
Highest grossing franchise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:48:21 No.38928951 Report

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>>38928761
>3500 Pokémon
lol in the year 3000 maybe at the pace they're going

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:48:30 No.38928954 Report

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>>38928864
And yet you guys cry and bitch when new mons from a new gen aren't good and usable in the meta
So GF is forced to powercreep every gen

The only solution to powercreep = remove old stuff or cycle it out

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:51:29 No.38929034 Report

Quoted By: >>38929064

>>38928911
"Gotta catch em all" was never used in Japan, and is almost never used outside of Japan anymore. It was a shortsighted slogan made by people who didn't think the series would last this long.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:52:29 No.38929064 Report

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>>38929034
The slogan also isn't "catch them all in one game". Nothing wrong with catching them all across multiple games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:52:31 No.38929065 Report

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>>38928761
This is why Pokemon should've ended in Gen 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:53:10 No.38929075 Report

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>>38928761
>Pokemon
>balance
lol
If they randomly cut out a third/half of OU the meta will become centralized and solved, killing any remaining variety. If you wanna see what happens when you remove randoms mons check out LGPE meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:53:36 No.38929082 Report

Quoted By: >>38929126 >>38929203 >>38929398

Imagine defending a billion dollar company for free for no reason when they take things away from you out of laziness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:54:39 No.38929111 Report

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>>38928761
They literally have animations and models for all 3500 Pokémon already, and space constraints are not an issue
There is no excuse to not include them ALL in every new game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:55:13 No.38929126 Report

Quoted By: >>38929286 >>38929290

>>38929082
If you didn't expect them to have a "cut off" / fresh start over every ~10 years or so you're entitled and retarded anyway.

How hard can it be for you to re-hunt those shinies and re-breed your competitive pentaperfect pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:56:12 No.38929149 Report

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>>38928761
they are a multi billion dollar franchise.

keep sucking them off tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:57:18 No.38929169 Report

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>>38928954
Actually kill yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:58:41 No.38929203 Report

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>>38929082
You all faggot deserved it Now i can playing a flesh pokemon game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 15:59:56 No.38929234 Report

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>>38928761
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:00:33 No.38929248 Report

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>>38928954
Who the fuck says that? Are you retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:01:52 No.38929270 Report

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>>38929248
/vp/? Were you not here for SM? People bitched to no end.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:02:49 No.38929286 Report

Quoted By: >>38929317

>>38928761
>>38929126
It's been a decade and a half since Hoenn happened and the lockout took a serious toll on the franchise. But even then, you could eventually recatch all those Pokemon after you bought some new games.
Can't do that in SS, some Pokemon just no longer exist for no good reason. Players got absolutely nothing in return. Aside from a new universally applied shader, Pokemon and their animations look just as they did in X/Y 6 years ago and Pokedex 3D 8 years ago. There was no improvement in quality, there was no improvement in balance, you just lost something for no good reason. And you like it this way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:02:59 No.38929287 Report

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>>38928761
>Game barely makes it to like 900 in 25 years
>Thinking they're making 2600 in another 54

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:03:02 No.38929288 Report

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>>38928761
>The year is 2073
>Pokemon as a franchise has grown so massive that its profits now exceed Disney's total yearly income, governments across the globe bend the knee to the electric rodent
>An entire artificial island has been built off the coast of Japan to accomodate R&D on the newest Pokemon games
>There are whispers that artifical creatures are being created to mimic Pokemon in real life in order to create a Jurassic Park-like experience
>Gamefreak still can't put a second fucking region in their games

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:03:08 No.38929290 Report

Quoted By: >>38929625

>>38929126
>How hard can it be for you to re-hunt those shinies and re-breed your competitive pentaperfect pokemon?
Pretty damn hard when they're NOT IN THE FUCKING GAME CODE AT ALL
You stupid failed abortion. How can you be so dumb?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:03:51 No.38929312 Report

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>>38929270
No they didn't. I was here since HGSS and there has never been actual outrage due to competitive shit because most people don't fucking care about that shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:04:06 No.38929317 Report

Quoted By: >>38929348 >>38929475 >>38930842

>>38929286
They'll come back later. Just not yet. Maybe in a patch/DLC, maybe in Ultra Sword and Ultra Shield.

People are way too assmad about all of this. Jesus christ just play with new pokemon for once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:06:08 No.38929348 Report

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>>38929317
>maybe
>maybe
Oh to be young and naive again...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:06:18 No.38929355 Report

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>>38928761
>implying technology in the year 2073 won’t be so advanced that allowing this is an issue

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:06:38 No.38929364 Report

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>>38928761
>Balance around 3500 Pokemon

You are retarded if you think the game is balanced around more than 10% or so of Pokemon. The rest are simply too underpowered to be viable in multiplayer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:06:40 No.38929365 Report

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>>38928761
Why not? Is Game Freak too lazy to mind link with their work sphere and generate the new Pokémon holograms with a thought?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:07:05 No.38929376 Report

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>>38928761
Hopefully Masuda will be dead by then,

Also while the singularity scares the shit out of me at least it can pick up Gamefreak's slack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:07:39 No.38929396 Report

Quoted By: >>38929446 >>38929475

>>38929348
It's pretty obvious that old Pokémon won't be lost forever until the end of time. You just dont get to use them quite yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:07:41 No.38929398 Report

Quoted By: >>38929453

>>38929082
I dont defend their shitty decisions. However, we are approaching 1k pokemon pretty fast. Wouldn't any other series have rebooted by now? It seems their way of handling it is to only focus on the pokemon in the region. This gen may be shitty because they attempted to focus on all 800+.
>"but they could hire more people"
They could but it isn't that simple either. There's no guarantee the quality would improve just because there's more bodies. Management and publishers almost always have unrealistic expectations. Not saying hiring more isn't a good idea, just solutions aren't as easy as people assume.
Fresh people might be a good option, since the current devs sound tired of pokemon. Masuda and Ohmori don't seem to like it anymore either. No passion means poor quality. I dont like gf, but I don't think this is solely their fault either. Nintendo seems to prefer pokemon being a rushed out annual cash cow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:09:59 No.38929446 Report

Quoted By: >>38929487

>>38929396
Oh yeah, that makes everything better. We just have to accept shit games until MAYBE gamefreak decides we deserve good, complete games. Listen to yourself, you cuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:10:06 No.38929453 Report

Quoted By: >>38929809

>>38929398
You act as if making a low poly 3d model requires talent. They could outsource this to Chinese children and you wouldn't notice a difference

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:11:11 No.38929475 Report

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>>38929317
>>38929396
They've been stating they want to "move forward" with the franchise. They're phasing out Pokemon and assuming they'll do it, the practice of periodically rehashing assets from XY to sell them as "new" Pokemon needs to be condemned sooner than anything else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:11:12 No.38929479 Report

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>>38928954
If they have to do that why not cater to new players by cutting out transfer altogether. No FOMO about out shiny events and what not if every gen or hell game is a completely new experience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:11:27 No.38929487 Report

Quoted By: >>38929514 >>38929567

>>38929446
>pokemon games are shit unless I can bring over my starter from emerald, my lvl 100 hacked rayquaza and my obscure shiny cradily

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:11:41 No.38929489 Report

Quoted By: >>38929530

>>38928761
You know banlists are a thing right? You can easily take out pokemons of conpetitive without deleting em

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:13:02 No.38929514 Report

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>>38929487
Retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:13:18 No.38929520 Report

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>>38928761
>current year
>still defending jewfreak

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:13:56 No.38929530 Report

Quoted By: >>38929607 >>38929721

>>38929489
If eventually you will only be allowed to actually use, say, 200 pokemon out of 3000, why bother with all the effort for the other 2800

Why is it so hard for you to accept that Pokémon will reset every decade+ or so? Not even a complete reset because many pokémon from before still return.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:15:28 No.38929567 Report

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>>38929487
Or anything that isn't on an arbitrary list. Nice strawman though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:17:12 No.38929607 Report

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>>38929530
It's been 15 years since this last happened, and all the Pokémon were still there in the end, even if the specific ones we used on GB weren't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:18:11 No.38929622 Report

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>>38928812
>he thinks he's a chad
>he's on /vp/ on today of all days

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:18:19 No.38929625 Report

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>>38929290
He never says the game won't have the code. He says you can't transfer them unless they are in the dex.
You can't transfer anything to lgpe either but the pokemon are still in the code.
Fucking christ, items that haven't been used in most of the games remain in the code.
The models are possibly removed. They may even be intact but locked, and Home itself prevents you from transferring.
It's still bullshit, but don't call people dumb for not believing your personal explanation that doesnt make sense and something they've never done before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:19:19 No.38929641 Report

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>>38928761
>the year is 2073
>I demand gamefreak and cyborgmasuda run a train on and fuck my ass real prim and proper like the lapdog apologist shill I am
>how DARE they leave my asshole unsodomized for so long! I want cock and I need it now!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:21:30 No.38929689 Report

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I'd rather have no more new Pokemon than removing pre-established Pokemon desu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:23:19 No.38929721 Report

Quoted By: >>38929744

>>38929530
Even jugioh video games include banned cards out of respect, even if you couldnt evem use em in casual.
On top of that pokemon is a franchise build on two things: building a relation with a "living" beign and catching em all. Losing your old friend for arbitrary reasons and not beign able to catch em all anymore goes exactly against the franchise's core

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:24:24 No.38929744 Report

Quoted By: >>38929791

>>38929721
Relation my ass. Just catch or breed the pokémon again, give it the same name and bam done.

>but my feelings for THIS specific set of 0s and 1s

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:26:42 No.38929791 Report

Quoted By: >>38929820

>>38929744
>Just catch or breed the pokémon again, give it the same name and bam done.
You won't even be able to do that, vast numbers of Pokemon just won't even be coded into the games

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:27:18 No.38929809 Report

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>>38929453
>low poly
Thanks for admitting you know nothing about modeling. The poly count on these models is ridiculous.
Modeling takes talent whether it defends your argument or doesn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:28:00 No.38929820 Report

Quoted By: >>38930028

>>38929791
They'll come back before long.
But you are right, THAT is the main problem. Not the starting over.

How would you feel if SWSH had all pokémon but allowed for zero transfer between old games and SWSH? Would that be okay for you then? You''d have to start over on everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:30:43 No.38929870 Report

Quoted By: >>38929932

>people unironically defending a billion dollar corporation and IP

What the fuck is wrong with you people, there is literally no excuse for this shit other than pure laziness and corner cutting

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:33:09 No.38929932 Report

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>>38929870
please understand, gamefreak is a small indie studio operating on a 50 yen budget

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:36:56 No.38930028 Report

Quoted By: >>38930091

>>38929820
Yes, that'd be okay. Just have them in the code. I inject anyway.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:39:06 No.38930091 Report

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>>38930028
>I inject

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:41:11 No.38930136 Report

Quoted By: >>38930182 >>38930268 >>38930408 >>38930882 >>38930922

You could not transfer the "bros" from ;
>GB to GBA
>GB to PKMN Stadium
>GBA to DS

And now suddenly people are surprised because you cant do the same on Switch
Also this "bro" thing is pretty retarded. Stop encouraging legit autism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:43:13 No.38930182 Report

Quoted By: >>38930446

>>38930136
>GBA to DS

Blatant fucking lie

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:43:27 No.38930190 Report

Quoted By: >>38930284

>>38928761
The only thing that needs to be balanced around is what you'd normally find in the region retard. That doesn't mean you shouldn't have access to everything though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:43:39 No.38930197 Report

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gen 1 -> gen 2
VS
gen 3 -> gen 4 -> gen 5 -> gen 6 -> gen 7

oh wow it's as if hardware limitation during the gba era was the only fucking problem

>GBA to DS
FUCK I GOT BAITED

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:44:20 No.38930213 Report

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>>38928939
Lol there’s going to be less then 900 Pokémon this time around

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:44:29 No.38930221 Report

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>>38928812
obviously you didn't play the gen 1 or 2 games otherwise you would know about the first time this happened.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:45:03 No.38930233 Report

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>>38928761
Based OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:46:00 No.38930255 Report

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>>38929270
The reason why most Alola mons got shafted was because the UBs and Tapus overshadowed them to hell and back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:46:28 No.38930268 Report

Quoted By: >>38930446

>>38930136
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q91ZUYmXQho

Moron

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:47:18 No.38930284 Report

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>>38930190
And yet if none of the new mons are stronger than what was available previously people won't use them in the meta and then people will bitch and whine about how the new mons are useless shit

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:49:36 No.38930339 Report

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>>38928761
>the year is 2073
>you can finally bring all 3500+ Pokemon into your game
>Dynamax Mega Primal Groudon is still the strongest Pokemon in VGC

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:52:16 No.38930408 Report

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>>38930136
>>GBA to DS

Do you want to know how I know that you're retarded?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:53:07 No.38930446 Report

Quoted By: >>38930508 >>38930786 >>38930895

>>38930268
>>38930182

This was never intended.Are you guys serious?
>The PKMN fanbase would rather do hacking tricks than play the games, because the autism is too strong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:55:27 No.38930508 Report

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>>38930446
>This was never intended
>hacking tricks

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pal_Park

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 16:59:29 No.38930612 Report

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I never realized how autistic everyone on /vp/ is about bringing over a decade or more worth of old baggage instead of being able to just enjoy a new pokémon game on its own

Jesus christ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 17:03:39 No.38930717 Report

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>>38928812
Rewatch the video. Masuda says any LGPE mon can be transferred if they are in the Regional Dex. Get fucked kantocuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 17:06:32 No.38930786 Report

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>>38930446
Sun and Moon were your first games weren't they?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 17:08:38 No.38930842 Report

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>>38929317
>Jesus christ just play with new pokemon for once.
We did, it was called Black and White. And even then, there are many people who's first team in any new generation will only include new pokemon (I've been doing this since Gen 4).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 17:10:13 No.38930882 Report

Quoted By: >>38930931

>>38930136
>>GB to GBA
That had a huge backlash too. And is listed as one of the reasons why people hated gen3 pretty often.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 17:10:40 No.38930895 Report

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>>38930446
retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 17:11:21 No.38930919 Report

Quoted By: >>38930953

I never did a pokemon transfer between games

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 17:11:42 No.38930922 Report

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>>38930136
>GBA to DS
underage please go

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 17:12:15 No.38930931 Report

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>>38930882
they had originally planned to release the pokemon via that card reader horseshit but that turned out to be HIGHLY UNPOPULAR so they backed down

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2019 17:13:05 No.38930953 Report

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>>38930919
Based as fuck anon. In a sea of shitters who refuse to ever to any work again, you are the basd king.

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