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Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 16:58:25 No.39067335 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>39067357 >>39067460 >>39067525 >>39067601 >>39067619 >>39067944 >>39068093 >>39068145

>Haha they only got 60k dislikes....
> Thinking the number of dislikes on tree house vid is the grand total everyone displeased with Game Freak
>Not considering that haven't disliked the video might be voicing themselves on other social media platforms.
>Ignoring the fact that the dislikes on the video are steady growing as more people become exposed to the controversy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:00:14 No.39067357 Report

Quoted By: >>39067417 >>39067698 >>39068093

>>39067335
>Thinking half of those 60K won't buy the game when they see Gigantamax Charizard and Pikachu
OHHH NONONONO BROS GEN 8 WAS SUPPOSED TO BOMB!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:04:34 No.39067417 Report

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>>39067357
>Ignoring the fact that people are pissed because gimmicks like Dynamaxing and Gigantamaxing contributed to the culling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:06:09 No.39067440 Report

Quoted By: >>39067485 >>39068368

>>39067417
>Thinking normies give a FUCK about the trees, clouds, steelix floating.
>Thinking normies don't love the idea of their KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO mon being massive.
OHHHHH NO NONO ONONO HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAA

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:07:27 No.39067460 Report

Quoted By: >>39067578

>>39067335
Japanese Children alone will ensure Sword and Shield sell at least 15 million because they don't give a fuck about anything except the fact it's got the Pokemon Logo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:09:16 No.39067485 Report

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>>39067440
>makes argument that only normies are rooting for these games
>they themselves are rooting for the
So I take it you're a normie?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:12:18 No.39067525 Report

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>>39067335
Exactly. What this really is, is that of the group of most hardcore fans, the ones that will lap up any shit of Gamefreak, the ones loyal enough to watch treehouse while in school/work, are so upset that 75% of them went out of their way to dislike the video and bitch on twitter when in the past they would just close the window and move on. I've never seen fans this angry ever before, and there have been loads of times where a vocal minority complained. The fact that it took a week for the ecelebs to band together and whine in unison about anyone criticizing this really tell you something. This time, they are the vocal minority.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:16:42 No.39067578 Report

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>>39067460
And I'm sure they will. This post isn't about the games not selling. Sword and Shield will make millions because brand power. This thread is a response to all of those acting like outrage at the games isn't something of notable size.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:17:59 No.39067601 Report

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>>39067335
Have dex-oh wait you can't :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:18:46 No.39067619 Report

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>>39067335
IT WILL STILL SELL BILLIONS GOY
THE PEOPLE LIKE TO EAT SHIT

AND THEY ARE PROUD OF IT

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:21:11 No.39067650 Report

Quoted By: >>39067777

>>39067485
I think he's just stating we're not the bulk of their sales.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:22:22 No.39067671 Report

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>>39067601
You're just not realizing the sCOPE of things

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:23:07 No.39067682 Report

Quoted By: >>39067698

>>39067417
Lol why would anyone get excited when you know it’s gone come gen 9?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:24:16 No.39067698 Report

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>>39067682
>>39067357
Replied to wrong thread

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:31:31 No.39067777 Report

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>>39067650
True, but the thing is we don;t need to be. We don't need Sword and Shield to sell zero copies. See this graph? See that dip between the sales of a gen's initial release and the sale for third versions? Those dips happen all the time because lack of interest. That's all that's needed here for people to become disinterested to a point where the games sale like third versions. Millions will still be made but at the cost of making at least a Billion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:34:42 No.39067824 Report

Quoted By: >>39067895 >>39067956 >>39068004

Realistically speaking, what can they show to win people back on this game? I can only think of a new eeveelution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:37:02 No.39067851 Report

Quoted By: >>39067956

>>39067777
>on a steady decline
>ongoing backlash cause no national dex
We can do this. Let's make this the first flop. We need to send them a message. We want them to be better, and we all know that they can, but won't for some reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:39:50 No.39067895 Report

Quoted By: >>39067934

>>39067824
Announce a future patch to be released alongside or after home, or announce that home has battle and amie functionality, though in that case, a fair part of the fanbase, though not the majority as is now, would still be pissed, and I wouldn’t judge them for it, not being able to bring pokemon you have an attachment to would still suck, but having Home serve as a legacy format wouldn’t make the cull a dealbreaker for most people

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:41:28 No.39067918 Report

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>>39067777
>Millions will still be made but at the cost of NOT making at least a Billion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:43:04 No.39067934 Report

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>>39067895
Exactly, that's all that needs to be said Patch/Patches. Also show how Home will be more than Pokemon Prison.

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Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:43:30 No.39067944 Report

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>>39067335
HAHA YES YES THE GAMES WILL SELL 2MIL MAX WORLDWIDE, AMIRIGHT FLLOW UPRISING TRANNY

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Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:44:47 No.39067956 Report

Quoted By: >>39068012 >>39068231 >>39068336

>>39067824
Not even that.
They just gotta show new shit every few weeks for the next few months, which they already planned to going by past Gen hype cycles.
People act like them announcing this shit at E3 was a bad idea, but honestly if they had to announce it that was the perfect time.
>Say it where it'll be loud and clear
>Get people into an outrage and raging about the games and how "shit" they are
>Hold while the most autistic ragers start to get so obnoxious that the normies/casuals start to think "ew, these guys are awful"
>Start revealing new stuff that looks better than what has been shown so far (they got something coming the 29th apparently)
>Normies/casuals see this new shit, they see the extreme autists still screaming, they fall more in line with "please understand"
>Profit
It's basic outrage marketing. See "New Coke" (which, ironically, is making a comeback).

>>39067851
>on a steady decline
Not really. They've held a solid 16 million average since 2002 for the mainline new generation titles.
Third highest of them behind the huge swell of RB and GS is DP, and that is most likely due to the DS having such great sales.
Since the Switch sold well, they're gonna easily hit the 16 million mark and probably get closer to 18 million like DP did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:49:41 No.39068004 Report

Quoted By: >>39068119

>>39067824
>Realistically speaking, what can they show to win people back on this game?
They can easily win people back by doing one simple thing. Promise to patch SS with compatibility for non galar dex pokemon some time in the future. That's it. People were more than willing to buy this game apart from the usual /vp/ poster that's been calling the series shit since gen 6.

It's not rocket science.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:50:14 No.39068012 Report

Quoted By: >>39068046 >>39068122

>>39067956
Part of me feels like they've shown the most exciting things already. The wild area and dynamax are the big new features and they look like shit. The wild area is also like 40-50% of the region. Only regional formes or cross-gen evos (which are presumed to return) could save them now. Assuming that they don't make plans for a patch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:53:32 No.39068046 Report

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>>39068012
Leak that was right about everything shown so far also mentions a gigantimax mechanic that actually has model changes for certain pokemon (likely the true replacement for mega evolution).

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Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:54:25 No.39068059 Report

Quoted By: >>39068091

So, we agree everybody is angry

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:56:36 No.39068091 Report

Quoted By: >>39068129

>>39068059
>we
Nah

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:56:44 No.39068093 Report

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>>39067335
>>39067357
>Pokemon exhaustion and new console won't be the first and foremost causes for lower sales.
Yeah I don't think you see the bigger picture here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:58:10 No.39068119 Report

Quoted By: >>39068142

>>39068004
They won't do that though. They never have, nor have any reason to since the games are annual.

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Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:58:15 No.39068122 Report

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>>39068012
Wild Area and Dynamaxing are two major new gimmicks, but most people aren't swayed over gimmicks.

Normies/casuals didn't buy S/M because they wanted to use Z-moves. They bought it cause they thought shit like Bewear/Stuffle were cute or they thought the Hawaiian region looked neat. Simple shit.

The Wild Area doesn't take up 50% of the region either. It's a large part of the map, but it really only connects two big cities. Everything else is the usual routes, towns and cities of which we really haven't seen much at all. Plus we've only seen like 12 new Pokemon so far so there's plenty of those GF could dangle like shiny keys to get general audience attention.

Oh, also they're holding onto the camping thing which is sure to get "awws" from the general audience even if it's just Amie with a new coat of paint.

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Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:58:33 No.39068129 Report

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>>39068091
Compelling argument

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 17:59:30 No.39068142 Report

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>>39068119
I'm only saying that it's the easiest way to undo the clusterfuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 18:00:04 No.39068145 Report

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>>39067335
isn't it kind of pathetic that only shills and people on vp are defending this game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 18:05:31 No.39068231 Report

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>>39067956
>Not even that.
They just gotta show new shit every few weeks for the next few months, which they already planned to going by past Gen hype cycles.

I really, really wouldn't bank on that. This announcement has left quite the stink for a good chunk of the Pokemon fanbase. I think what's going to happen is that something new will be shown in the games and those still in support will try to hype that up causing those who are upset to double down and become more vocal.

>Since the Switch sold well, they're gonna easily hit the 16 million mark and probably get closer to 18 million like DP did.

Maybe, but I don't think it's wise to directly correlate the sales of a console to the sales of anyone game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 18:12:26 No.39068336 Report

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>>39067956
People will keep getting reminded that their bro isn't going to be there every single time they announce anything. If anything, it will only keep fuelling the hate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Jun 2019 18:14:42 No.39068368 Report

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>>39067440
>Thinking normies know anything about this; enough to downvote a video

Fuck off. You have to go back.

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