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Lets buff shitmons

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 03:56:28 No.39101354 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>39101386 >>39101474 >>39101497 >>39101500 >>39101670 >>39101793 >>39101797 >>39102006 >>39102079 >>39102379

>Hitmonchan
>New ability: Steel Fist
>Punching type moves do 75% damage but hit twice and have +1 priority

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 03:59:21 No.39101386 Report

Quoted By: >>39101397

>>39101354
We should give this to all Iron fist users.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 04:00:30 No.39101397 Report

Quoted By: >>39104167

>>39101386
I am not dealing with Conkeldurr with this shit

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Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 04:01:23 No.39101405 Report

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Gets Triage as a new ability

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Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 04:03:25 No.39101425 Report

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>Fearow
>New ability: Fear
>Lowers attack by 2 stages on switch in

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 04:04:48 No.39101442 Report

Quoted By: >>39101461 >>39101781 >>39102329

>Slaking
>New ability: Sleepyhead
>Falls asleep at the start of the round

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 04:07:47 No.39101461 Report

Quoted By: >>39102713

>>39101442
Not gonna lie I'm sure that st this point shaking could be just OU with no ability. Like it doesn't need any drawbacks whatsoever. Same with gigas and archeops.

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Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 04:08:46 No.39101474 Report

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>>39101354
bad buff
>>39101405
good buff

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 04:11:07 No.39101497 Report

Quoted By: >>39101653

>>39101354
>You get hitmonchan by evolving Tyrogue with more Def than Atk
>Was never retconned for Hitmonchan to have higher Def than Atk to fit this evolution method, as well as a good support move pool

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 04:11:30 No.39101500 Report

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>>39101354
>Punching type moves do 75% damage but hit twice and have +1 priority
So literally the thing that made Mega Kangaskhan the new hotness but even better with priority?

There's buffing and then there's breaking.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 04:18:45 No.39101564 Report

Quoted By: >>39103757

>New Carnivine ability: Insectivore
Negates damage and effects from damaging Bug type moves and gains +1 Speed.
General stat buffs: +10 to HP and both defenses

>New Victreebel ability: Sticky Trap
Prevents Bug-type Pokemon from switching out.
General stat buffs: +10 to HP and +20 to Special defense

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 04:25:55 No.39101640 Report

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altaria. new ability backstab. arena lock and immune to ohko moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 04:26:45 No.39101653 Report

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>>39101497
It's Defense because boxing is a defensive method of fighting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 04:28:18 No.39101670 Report

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>>39101354
>Through a new method of evolution discovered, Phione can now evolve into Manaphy, allowing it to use eviolite, making it as bulky as Suicune
>All eeveelutions get the respective moves from the starter Eevee through move tutor, as well as Pichu getting the starter pikachu moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 04:40:42 No.39101781 Report

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>>39101442
>Slaking
>New ability: Sleepyhead
>Falls asleep at the start of the round
>Only lasts one turn
>Wakes up instantly if attacked and gets a boost like swords dance to attack and speed
ftfy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 04:42:40 No.39101793 Report

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>>39101354
>Masquerain
>Now bug/water
>Levitate becomes one of it's abilities
>+30 hp +20 def
>Gets sleep powder
There. He is now an okay set up sweeper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 04:42:59 No.39101797 Report

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>>39101354
See, this is the kind of cool shit we could have gotten if Gamefreak didn't ignore Megas. Mega Hitmonchin I know I would use him, and have the same ability but with kicks for Hitnonlee

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 04:47:17 No.39101826 Report

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>>39101781
That'd be broken af anon
With just falling asleep you're trading higher bst for no item/having to run sleeptalk. Seems balanced enough that way

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 05:00:20 No.39101914 Report

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>>39101653
Then it should have the highest Def among its trio. It doesn’t even have a defensive ability and has a very limited support move pool. All of them should get some stat changes/buffs
Hitmonchan: 80/70/120/35/110/80
Gets access to a boxing version of recover and Keen Eye is replace with an ability that reduces the damage taken from contact moves to 0.67%
Hitmonlee: 60/120/70/110/35/100
Gets No Guard over limber
Hitmontop: 70/95/95/72/72/91
learns U-turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 05:13:08 No.39102006 Report

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>>39101354
Just give all Hitmons a buff to their HP by maybe 20 and they'd be way better. They're just too fragile.Maybe 10 points in speed for good measure. Too slow, too fragile, both are a a recipe for a shitmon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 05:23:41 No.39102079 Report

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>>39101354
>and have +1 priority
We learned our lesson from Smogonbird, let's not do this.
Hell this could potentially work on Focus Punch and end up doing 318-375 damage x 2 to a Skarmory basically oneshotting it and two shotting something like Reuniclus.

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Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 05:25:02 No.39102087 Report

Quoted By: >>39102192

Dunsparce
Hp:100(120)
Atk:70(80)
Def:70(100)
Sp. atk:65(80)
Sp. def:65(65)
Speed:45(75)
Total:415(520)
Move pool is already great.
I normally don't buff things, so how does this work out for my buddy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 05:29:26 No.39102114 Report

Quoted By: >>39102735 >>39103147

Global: Make Hidden abilities obtainable in game. Give every wild encounter 31 IV and put in a system that lets you drop those IVs to your liking. Oh and give us the ability to change natures, and EVs easily.

>Rapidash
Make it Fire/Fairy
>Ninetales
>Make this one Fire/Fairy as well
>Gengar
give it back levitate and nerf Shadow Tag HARD.
>Lanturn
+20 in SpAtt, and Spdef
>Crobat
Give it poison jab.
>Camerupt
+20 in Def and Spdef. Slow frail mixed attacker doesn't work.
>Flygon
+15 in attack and speed
>Claydol
+25 in special attack. This thing is setup fodder and doesn't hit hard enough to warrant a bad defensive type combo.
>Talonflame
Revert the gale wings nerf
>Tyrantrum
Better fucking speed like +20, not nearly as badly as...
>Aurorus
Also better fucking speed. Probably +50 or more. Fucking 58 speed on the worst defensive type combination in the series is total horseshit. Also -10 attack and put that into special attack.
>Silvally
Give it a better fucking movepool. Give it shit like earthquake, and buff RKS System to act like Multitype.
>Gourgeist
Give it better fucking stats, more special defense ideally on of it's forms. Even if the XL form is the only worthwhile form.
>Trevenant
Give it +15 in Def, and SpDef.
>Palossand
Water compaction gives it a water immunity as well.
>Golisopod
Give it a different ability, emergency exit is worse than shit. Maybe tough claws I dunno.

While we're at it drop the level evolution requirements for Kanto, Hoenn, Unova, and Kalos mons, and fucking put in another method to evolve ALL trade evolutions so that they aren't locked behind multiplayer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 05:41:21 No.39102192 Report

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>>39102087
Looks ru with uu usage. Fantastic paralysis spreader with great bulk. It's basically physical snorlax lite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 05:43:01 No.39102205 Report

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Hitmonchan is my bro. Please do not call him a shitmon

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Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 05:45:19 No.39102222 Report

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Give is spore
Give it spooore
For the love of god give it spooooooore

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 05:49:11 No.39102252 Report

Quoted By: >>39103188

>Regigigas
>Iron Fist
>Learns Slack Off
Optional new ability: Continental Bulk: +1 defense at the end of every turn

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Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 05:50:38 No.39102268 Report

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Receiver gets replaced by the ability of the Pokemon that got switched to send out Passimian

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 05:52:31 No.39102277 Report

Quoted By: >>39103858

>Stat buffs: +20 to each offensive stat and speed stat; +30 to HP stat
No reason this thing should have stats close to a Squirtle if it can't evolve

>Ability: Overtime
Gets a boost to all stats equal to how many turns have passed when it is sent into battle:
>no boosts: 19 or less turns have passed
>1 stage boost: 20~29 turns
>2 stage boost: 30~39 turns
>3 stage boost: 40+ turns

>New move: Icicle Trap
Stealth Rock ice version. Delibird exclusive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 06:00:35 No.39102329 Report

Quoted By: >>39102353

>>39101442
*Electric terrain intensifies*

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Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 06:03:36 No.39102353 Report

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>>39102329

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Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 06:06:04 No.39102379 Report

Quoted By: >>39102393

>>39101354
Better question, is it even possible to make Hitmonchan even shittier than they already are without flat out nuking all their stats to babymon levels?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 06:08:03 No.39102393 Report

Quoted By: >>39102690

>>39102379
Make the Elemental Punches special again

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Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 06:26:35 No.39102572 Report

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HP: 60 -> 90
Atk: 95 -> 108
Def: 80 -> 95
Sp.Def: 80 -> 95
BST: 405 -> 478
Hidden Ability changed from Damp to Unaware. Learns Moonlight by level up.

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Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 06:41:01 No.39102690 Report

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>>39102393
How are people just realizing Gamefreak is incompetent when they've been pulling shit like that for over a decade?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 06:44:03 No.39102713 Report

Quoted By: >>39102753

>>39101461

I think theres enough powercreep recently that hed just be BL. Too much shit in OU wrecks him nowadays.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 06:46:09 No.39102735 Report

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>>39102114
>make hidden abilities obtainable in game
what year is this post from

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 06:48:47 No.39102753 Report

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>>39102713
slaking would easily be OU, have you seen that thing's fucking movepool?
it's ridiculous.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 07:03:19 No.39102852 Report

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here's a few idea's
>Hitmonlee:
>new ability: lightning feet or increases all kicking type moves atk power
Gives all kicking move priority
>Hitmonchan:
>new ability: Boxing stance
raise Def by 20% at full health, once taken to half or less changes to Attack stance lowering Def by 40% and increasing Atk and Speed by 20%

>New move: Trade Off
Endures the foes blows and sends it back 2X the power, has recoil.
The idea behind this move is like boxers trading blows and KO'ing each other, it works like Endure where you won't get knocked out just to deliver the killing blow, and recoil takes you out.
>New move: Massive Blow
priority -1 base power: 100 acc: 85
A move that focuses all it's power one kick/punch has a 1% chance paralysis and a 10% of Decreasing foes speed requires user to recharge if move misses

How's this?
These are just loose Idea's so Nerf them if needed.
I like the idea of making new attacks, so tell me if you want to hear more Ideas

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Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 07:25:46 No.39102970 Report

Quoted By: >>39103811 >>39104191

>Psyduck & Golduck
>New ability: Headache
>When a Pokémon with Headache get a status confusion, its Sp. Attack is increased by +2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 07:58:31 No.39103147 Report

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>>39102114
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 08:05:17 No.39103180 Report

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Single type, doesn't evolve, below 400 total stats, ugly as shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 08:06:10 No.39103188 Report

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>>39102252
I wish his defenses were doubled for 5 turns to compensate at the very least

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 10:02:23 No.39103757 Report

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>>39101564
I like it. They are just niche enough to be a specilized and not broken

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 10:08:44 No.39103811 Report

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>>39102970
Perfect on psyduck, but golduck should be immune to confusion and gets 1 sp atk if it would be confused. Call it Focused

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 10:15:48 No.39103858 Report

Quoted By: >>39104882

>>39102277
>Delibird exclusive
What about smeargle? Is this a dark void/hyperspace fury deal?

Also if I switch a trace mon or a heart swap magearna into your 40+ turns overtimed delibird, what happens next?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 11:10:27 No.39104167 Report

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>>39101397
Conkeldurr shouldn't have Iron Fist. It's not even that fitting
Machamp should get it instead imo. It would make Machamp better and Conkeldurr less of a straight upgrade

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 11:13:45 No.39104191 Report

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>>39102970
Also
New Type: Water/Psychic (it's about time)
New Stats:
-5 HP
-10 Attack
-5 Defense
+15 Special Attack
+20 Speed
New Moves: Power Gem, Shadow Ball

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 13:24:04 No.39104882 Report

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>>39103858
To answer your questions:
>1
Delibird would be the only one who gets learns it naturally. Smeargle could Sketch it.

>2
Trace works and would copy the stat boosts. Moves and abilities that affect stat boosts affect Overtime. For example: Roar/Haze would remove boosts, Psych Up would copy the boosts, Unaware Pokemon would not be affected, etc.

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Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2019 13:44:42 No.39104981 Report

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>Stat buffs
HP: 70 -> 75
Attack 90 -> 105
Defense: 70 -> 105
Sp. Attack: 60
Sp. Defense: 70
Speed: 40 -> 80
Final Stat Total Change: 400 -> 495
Some Pokemon with 495 stat total: Accelegor, Escavilier
Purpose: Ariados needs some more bulk and power to do anything. Speed also doesn't hurt, especially considering how frail it is. These boosts give it some decent physical presence and enough speed to set up Sticky Web somewhat more reliably.

>Ability Changes
Swarm -> Oblivious
Sniper -> Technician
Purpose: Oblivious for those who want to set up Sticky Web. Technician for those who want to make offensive use of boosted Shadow Sneak/Pursuit/Fell Stinger

>New Moves
Poison Fang, Elemental Fangs

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