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Anonymous Mon 24 Jun 2019 01:36:14 No.39124953 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>39124969 >>39124979 >>39124981 >>39124985 >>39125033 >>39125106 >>39126080 >>39128074

>'it's good in Trick Room'
>except it actually is
How did this absolute STAK of a unit manage to make the meme a reality?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jun 2019 01:37:14 No.39124962 Report

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By being a trick room setter and abuser in one

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jun 2019 01:37:56 No.39124967 Report

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High BST combined with the lacking speed + it can cast it itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jun 2019 01:38:11 No.39124969 Report

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>>39124953
My grandma's karate chop one shots it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jun 2019 01:38:14 No.39124972 Report

Quoted By: >>39124979 >>39124989 >>39126454

Is trick room viable above 1300 elo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jun 2019 01:38:53 No.39124974 Report

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i wish stakataka's best set didn't involve cutting its defense with nature and IV autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jun 2019 01:39:21 No.39124979 Report

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>>39124953
Trick room was always good though?
>>39124972
No one is talking about OU you stupid faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jun 2019 01:39:30 No.39124981 Report

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>>39124953
Who gives a shit smogoniggroid

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jun 2019 01:39:58 No.39124985 Report

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>>39124953
>actually learns trick room
>bulky
>good attack stat
>strong spammable gyro ball + decent coverage options
>beast boost
it doesn't take a genius to figure this out

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jun 2019 01:40:19 No.39124988 Report

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>>39124979
elo isn't tied to OU you dull fuckaround

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jun 2019 01:40:20 No.39124989 Report

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>>39124972
I see that Magearna/Crawdaunt/Cresselia team pretty regularly in 1700+.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jun 2019 01:40:45 No.39124993 Report

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>>39124974
>Based Stakataka makes an IV that isn't 31 or 0 be competitively optimal

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jun 2019 01:42:30 No.39125013 Report

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>>39124993
they have been since hidden power existed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jun 2019 01:43:25 No.39125025 Report

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>>39125013
Well running HP for coverage isn't exactly the best situation for any mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jun 2019 01:44:04 No.39125033 Report

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>>39124953
>gyro ball that's basically max power all the time
>beast boost is a great ability
>low speed makes it very fast under trick room, which it can set up itself

That said outside of vgc 2019 where it plays a support and xerneas counter role it hasn't been all that spectacular, and it could use a bit lower defense so that it didn't need 15 def iv lonely to get attack boosts from beast boost. Overall though it's pretty solid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jun 2019 01:50:47 No.39125106 Report

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>>39124953
>150 base power stab move
>edgequake
>outspeeds literally everything after trick room
>sets its own trick room
>beast boost
it doesn't take a genius, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jun 2019 02:03:24 No.39125244 Report

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>>39124979
Trick room has limitations in singles . Most being common setters being weak to similar types or share to much of a niche.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jun 2019 02:20:05 No.39125418 Report

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>>39125013
Hyper training also fixed that issue.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 24 Jun 2019 02:36:12 No.39125580 Report

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>>39124979
>Hey why is this guy implying Trick Room is bad?
>And hey why is this other guy talking about singles?
>There's no way these two mysteries could be connected, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jun 2019 02:50:51 No.39125736 Report

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The Rock/Steel typing and appearance made people think it'd just end up being a slow, easily breakable wall with high defenses and not much else

But then people found out it had base 131 attack, Gyro Ball utilization, and access to Trick Room itself. Combine that with Beast Boost and it ends up actually not being complete trash

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jun 2019 03:20:06 No.39126080 Report

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>>39124953
Because of the magic of Ultra Beast minmaxing, that's why.

Also it has practically the strongest Gyro Ball in the whole game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jun 2019 03:28:17 No.39126169 Report

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>>39125580
Stakataka is massively more viable in VGC, and implying that he makes trick room good in singles is even more laughable

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jun 2019 03:43:28 No.39126300 Report

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>>39126169
Trick Room is viable in singles though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jun 2019 03:59:25 No.39126454 Report

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>>39124972
Yes, but there are more consistent playstyles. Trick Room lives and dies on matchup.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Jun 2019 07:24:45 No.39128074 Report

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>>39124953
Ughhh
Trick Room meme is used when pokemon is good but lacks speed
It's used to mock Pokémon becuase you would rather not use trick room and waste a turn

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