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Undoubtedly Sand Compaction. Its so bad it was cucked by another new ability in the same generation.

...Why doesn't this thing get Arena Trap? Pic official and related.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2019 21:10:58 No.39202422 Report

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Toxapex and Salazzle should have swapped abilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2019 21:11:01 No.39202424 Report

Quoted By: >>39207474 >>39208745

without a doubt, water compaction.
nothing else comes close.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2019 21:12:15 No.39202443 Report

Quoted By: >>39202559 >>39202808

>>39202384
Why are Toxapex such assholes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2019 21:12:42 No.39202450 Report

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the fact that wimpod and golisopod have the exact same ability but just worded differently is so stupid, the evolved version should have allowed it to act before returning to the ball.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2019 21:14:54 No.39202480 Report

Quoted By: >>39207511 >>39208754

No one has mentioned Power of Alchemy yet? 'Kay, guess I will.

Power of Alchemy. I guess I'll throw Receiver in there as well, because they're basically the same ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2019 21:18:00 No.39202525 Report

Quoted By: >>39202578

>>39202384
Probably Dancer or Emergency Exit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2019 21:20:36 No.39202559 Report

Quoted By: >>39202646

>>39202443
you’d rather have them starve because you’re uncomfortable with nature?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2019 21:21:47 No.39202572 Report

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Battery.
Even if abilitys like Wimp Out and Emergency Exit are bad, they can at least have a slight boost.
Not only is Battery a worse version of Plus/Minus, it's attacted to an NFE and when you actually get the opportunity to see it in action, Game Freak forgot to give Totem Vikavolt special moves.

What a trash ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2019 21:22:04 No.39202578 Report

Quoted By: >>39202597

>>39202384
Dazzling or Queen's majesty. Not effect which might help but they are two different ones just to be "special" when they could be rolled into one
>>39202525
Dancer isn't the worst but Oricrio has no stat above 95. Exit is godawful ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2019 21:25:13 No.39202597 Report

Quoted By: >>39202653

>>39202578
SuMo had a LOT of redundant abilities with name changes just so they made more sense.

Full Metal Body is Clear Body
Dazzling is Queen's Magesty
Wimp Out is Emergency Exit
Receiver is Power of Alchemy
Tangling Hair is Gooey (is Cotton Down now)

Did I miss any? Just shotgunning it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2019 21:26:42 No.39202609 Report

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>>39202384
>SuMo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2019 21:30:22 No.39202646 Report

Quoted By: >>39203151

>>39202559
https://theterramarproject.org/2018/06/05/the-crown-of-thorns-sea-star-a-big-threat-to-coral-reefs/
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2019 21:30:51 No.39202653 Report

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>>39202597
Full Metal Body is actually slightly better than Clear Body, as it's not affected by Ability-negating effects like Mold Breaker.
Similar thing with Shadow Shield and Multiscale.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2019 21:40:28 No.39202770 Report

Quoted By: >>39203071 >>39208739

>>39202406
>>39202417
And Dancer.
Worthless garbage despite the fitting themes and all, could have been better or just had already existing abilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2019 21:43:25 No.39202808 Report

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>>39202443
They need to eat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2019 21:49:54 No.39202879 Report

Quoted By: >>39203112 >>39207554 >>39208730

There really has to be another way to introduce new abilities to old Pokemon, because seeing a whole bunch of signature abilities that don't make any waves because they're saddled on one family of Pokemon is such a waste.

>>39202384
Has Long Reach been useful? I haven't followed competitive, but it doesn't look immediately powerful. That's just my own ignorance, though.
My vote would have to be Emergency Exit for just being outright user-hostile, or Liquid Voice for being way too niche.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2019 22:06:17 No.39203071 Report

Quoted By: >>39205938

>>39202770
Dancer works beautifully in balanced hackmons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2019 22:08:59 No.39203112 Report

Quoted By: >>39208730 >>39208766

>>39202879
Long Reach could be useful on some Pokemon
Decidueye isn't one of those Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2019 22:12:03 No.39203151 Report

Quoted By: >>39203204

>>39202646
>and yet you kill to eat
Hypocrite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2019 22:15:12 No.39203190 Report

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>>39202384
What was the point in adding so many useless signature abilities in Gen 7?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2019 22:15:51 No.39203204 Report

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>>39203151
I'm not destroying coral reefs though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2019 22:19:15 No.39203250 Report

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Illumination?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2019 22:19:50 No.39203258 Report

Quoted By: >>39208730

>>39202417
>Water Compaction
>Raises defense by 2 stages when hit by a water-type move
Isn't water almost entirely special attack?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2019 00:35:11 No.39205221 Report

Quoted By: >>39205287

>>39202384
honey gather. really regret not getting a ribombee with shield dust for my Moon playthough

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2019 00:38:57 No.39205287 Report

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>>39205221
Honey gather is a Gen 4 ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2019 00:52:17 No.39205492 Report

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>>39202406
Pleb

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2019 00:58:06 No.39205568 Report

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>>39202406
>Liquid Voice is pretty bad
Perish song with Gastrodon as companion of Primarina

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2019 01:00:08 No.39205596 Report

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>>39202407
But it gives a draining kiss a priority which was pretty rad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2019 01:32:05 No.39205938 Report

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>>39203071
You aren't going to use hackmons as argument, are you?

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Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2019 01:35:38 No.39205974 Report

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>>39202384
Salazzle should have had Merciless and Toxapex should have had Corrosion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2019 01:38:49 No.39206012 Report

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>>39202384
Wimp Out/Emergency Exit is the worst, Disguise is the best

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2019 03:45:31 No.39207474 Report

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>>39202417
>>39202424
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2019 03:48:04 No.39207511 Report

Quoted By: >>39207576 >>39207920

>>39202480
This.

I’d like to add Stake Out. Wtf is that even for?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2019 03:52:00 No.39207554 Report

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>>39202879
Having contact moves is more often a liability since it activates stuff like rocky helmet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2019 03:53:00 No.39207576 Report

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>>39207511
Worse analytic, I think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2019 04:23:10 No.39207894 Report

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Emergency Exit, hands down.
Unlike a lot of other bad/useless abilities in gen 7, Emergency Exit is definitely the one that acts more often as a liability than not, and requires extremely careful play with a mon that would normally have the bulk, typing, and movepool to aggressively switch into attacks as it pleases.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2019 04:26:00 No.39207920 Report

Quoted By: >>39208730

>>39207511
How is Stakeout bad? It's just wasted on a shitmon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2019 04:45:14 No.39208104 Report

Quoted By: >>39208136 >>39208808

Emergency Exit is the Defeatist of Gen 7, an ability that turns a decent mon into a shitmon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2019 04:48:25 No.39208136 Report

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>>39208104
>Archeops
>"decent"
Before the Gen 6 cancer it would be straight-up overpowered without that ability as a handicap. Also just run Wish lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2019 06:05:32 No.39208730 Report

Quoted By: >>39208766

>>39202879
>>39203112
Long Reach isn't really a bad ability per say. Its just one of those abilities that suffers a bit because you often don't appreciate when it helps you. Like Shell Armor/Battle Armor. If these abilities notified you when they protected you they might be a little more appreciated, I think.
>>39203258
Special Water attacks have much wider distribution, typically. Physical Water attackers have come a long way though since the initial split so they're quite a bit more common than they used to be.
>>39207920
Agreed. Stakeout is actually really great, its just Gumshoos is terrible and won't scare anything out. Gumshoos is so awful that players struggle with it in a normal playthrough, let alone competitive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2019 06:07:19 No.39208739 Report

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>>39202770
Dancer is great in doubles you nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2019 06:08:23 No.39208745 Report

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>>39202424
Absolutely no reason not to make it immune to water too. Fuck GF

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2019 06:09:31 No.39208754 Report

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>>39202480
Those two are at least useful for some hot memes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2019 06:11:24 No.39208766 Report

Quoted By: >>39208825

>>39203112
>>39208730
Long Reach is a mediocre ability that only helps in a handful of matchups. It wouldn't be terrible on a pivot or something, but generally there are far better abilities for that.
Really should do something extra, like boost damage slightly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2019 06:11:30 No.39208768 Report

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>>39205938
I think the point is that it's not a garbage ability, it's just locked to a shitmon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2019 06:17:07 No.39208808 Report

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>>39208104

Golisopod's not that bad competitively. People just treated it like a bug-type Ambipom in the beginning of S/M and ignored every other move but FI, so it took a while for it to see serious usage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2019 06:19:47 No.39208825 Report

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>>39208766
Maybe if it let you pierce Substitutes/Disguise/Multiscale/other protective abilities?

I'm still surprised they didn't give Decidueye Sniper. That seemed like a given from a mile away.

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