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Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 19:27:38 No.39262447 View View Reply Original Report

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Which would be the ideal type specialization for a first gym?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 19:28:16 No.39262453 Report

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rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 19:30:44 No.39262469 Report

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>>39262447
Something common but not in the elemental trio.
>rock
>ground
>bug
>flying

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 19:30:59 No.39262473 Report

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>>39262447
Normal

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 19:31:13 No.39262475 Report

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Rock. Emphasizes the importance of type matchups with a type that interacts with not only all 3 starter types, but also the Normal or Flying attacks they no doubt gain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 19:33:02 No.39262490 Report

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>>39262447
Dragon
And the gym leader should pull out one of those super low level salamence from usum

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 19:33:03 No.39262491 Report

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Dark, make it so some punk overpowered and kidnapped the actual leader and is usurping his position, but he's a identical looking guy, so his underlings have like bug type or some shit and don't know

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 19:33:20 No.39262492 Report

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>>39262447
Normal

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 19:38:25 No.39262547 Report

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>>39262490
This is the best, normally the starter is overleveled, so gym leader that resists the basic trio would make you use your other catched pokemon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 19:38:26 No.39262548 Report

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>>39262447
First Gym should be bug more often considering the first pokemon you encounter and the first trainers you fight are usually bugfags

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Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 19:40:19 No.39262571 Report

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>>39262490
>>39262547
>first gym is dragon
>ace has dragon rage

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 19:48:57 No.39262666 Report

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Rock is the cliche first gym type for a reason. Teaches players that some Pokemon take more from special attacks than they do physical, shows players that they can't just spam normal moves (or fire, if they picked fire), generally comes right before rock heavy areas to get players hype for catching new mons, but at the same time isn't overly difficult.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 19:50:48 No.39262679 Report

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>>39262571
>>39262547
>>39262490
That would be a solid idea
>First gym is dragon teaching new players not to just overlevel one mon and raise multiple pokemon to cover each other

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 20:03:12 No.39262818 Report

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>>39262571

Wouldn't this 1 shot every pokemon at the level they would normally be by the first gym?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 20:04:39 No.39262835 Report

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>>39262818
That's why it's the trainer's ace. Gotta learn that Speed and Evasion are important, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 20:08:12 No.39262868 Report

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>>39262447
Steel, rock or ghost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 20:09:29 No.39262889 Report

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Steel.

Since mostly normal and physical attacks at low levels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 20:09:38 No.39262890 Report

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>>39262835

>Evasion

How do you plan on boosting evasion? Since when do pokemon, especially starters, learn an evasion boosting move that early on?

>Speed
Unless you can 1 shot the opponent's ace it wouldn't matter. Dragon rage would take you out immediately.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 20:14:14 No.39262948 Report

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>>39262835
Dragon Rage on the first gym would mean that you'd have to overlevel your starter to the point it can take at least one hit. It's not like you have access to X-items at that point and even then it wouldn't matter, if it hits you die. It's a horrible idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 20:19:51 No.39263000 Report

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Dragon, so shitters learn immediately to not just rely on starters

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 20:29:44 No.39263095 Report

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>>39262948
>>39262890

What the fuck, not samefag but guys it's obvious he was joking, how can you be so fucking dense you socially inept retards

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 20:31:08 No.39263114 Report

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>>39262447
Normal, decent challenging type for a first gym

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Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 20:37:43 No.39263159 Report

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>>39263114
>Normal, decent challenging type for a first gym

If it is well designed and balanced.
Otherwise it will do nothing more than make you wish for a merciful death that will never come.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 20:40:24 No.39263185 Report

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>>39262447
One thats either supereffective, not very effective, or neutral to your starter to ease you into learning about type advantages.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 22:47:53 No.39264471 Report

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Make it normal type. No type advantages for the starters or most of the pokemon before the gym. It’ll be neutral damage to get the kids to grind a little bit or strategize

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 22:50:11 No.39264495 Report

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>>39262447
Normal, Ice, ground, rock and electric have good interactions with early types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 22:50:31 No.39264499 Report

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>>39262679
That's kinda what BW did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 22:50:52 No.39264502 Report

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>>39262447
Either something neutral to all starter types, or something which interacts with them in different ways.

Also I'm tired of fuckng Grass and Water gyms; I live in the UK and our gyms would be Steel, Poison, Dark, Electric, Flying etc. If there were to be a water gym it'd be outside, in the pouring rain, and EVERYONE would have the badge by now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 22:52:15 No.39264514 Report

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>>39263159
imagine posting something this stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 22:53:37 No.39264528 Report

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>>39262835
I'd like to see a first gym where the leader's main Pokemon is horribly overleveled, but has Simple for an ability so the best way to beat him is to lower his stats. Teach the player about abilities and stat-lowering moves all at once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 22:54:17 No.39264536 Report

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>>39264514
BW2 has the hardest first gym, prove me wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 22:55:33 No.39264548 Report

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>>39262447
Gyms shouldn't have a type restriction in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 22:55:53 No.39264551 Report

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>>39263159
whitney isn't hard
cheren and lenorah are much harder

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 22:57:27 No.39264565 Report

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>>39262571
>>39262679
Pokémon Spectrum fangame does this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 22:58:47 No.39264575 Report

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>>39262948
Or you'd have lots of fairy mons to catch around here, and the game would teach you that catching new mons to face new problems is actually important.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 23:01:14 No.39264600 Report

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>>39264536
you might be right, largely because cheren actually uses something resembling strategy, not because of the normal type. whitney's gym is also pretty good because it forces you to utilize something other than just shitting out damage to win. I don't agree that whitney was a hellish experience, rollout spam might be hard to counter in the first gym but by the third you have access to enough status, accuracy changes, and fighting moves to deal with it reasonably.
>b-but muh clefairy attract metronome spam!
this is why you don't catch exclusively boy pokemon you fuckin dingbats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 23:01:48 No.39264610 Report

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>>39262473
Normal is better subverted as a last gym. People think it sucks and having it first reinforces that. Also Fighting isn’t usually found early

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 23:03:20 No.39264626 Report

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>>39263114
>>39263159
I agree with Normal and with varied moves so that you have variety. Having a thick fat miltank with rollout is a good lesson for starting trainers. You could also have sing or attract, or Serene Grace with headbutt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 23:14:59 No.39264737 Report

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>>39262490
honestly dragon is not a bad choice, resists all three starters types, so kids are forced to learn about coverage and its not super effective against any thing other than itself so you're not immediately punished for picking a specific type, like say fire, when the first gym is rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 23:16:56 No.39264756 Report

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>>39264600
To be fair anon, Clefairy is far more likely to end speedruns than Miltank is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jul 2019 23:26:02 No.39264847 Report

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>>39264756
why don't they just soft reset until they get a female starter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 00:57:39 No.39265708 Report

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>>39262889
>Grass have to learn fighting o eletric move

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 03:28:49 No.39267325 Report

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>>39262447
Fairy>>39262447

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 03:52:44 No.39267497 Report

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bug. this is the correct answer btw

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 03:55:24 No.39267528 Report

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>>39262835
very nice idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 06:55:13 No.39268645 Report

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>>39267497
Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 12:36:59 No.39270036 Report

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>>39262447
Grass. Your typical early route wilds are going to be normal, bug, and flying, maybe some grass. Grass type leaves itself open to actually using the pokemon you just caught, rather than leaning on your starters like with Rock 2/3 of the time. Fire starter gets the easymode pass effectively, but Grass and Water starters prompt you to use your bug or flying types you just caught.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 12:40:11 No.39270061 Report

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>>39262447
Rock, which resists Normal
Or Dragon, which resists all of the starter types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 12:48:06 No.39270108 Report

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Ice

It interacts in a unique way with all three starter types while none of the starter types are ineffective against it.

>Weak against Fire, Fire resists
>Normal against Water, Water Resists
>Normal against Grass, Grass is weak to it

You can also probably get a fighting or rock type early on to defeat it if you need help

The other best choice is bug for similar reasons.

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